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pelham · Aug 09, 2004 08:25 PM

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I have almost completed my flying clown kit. My leadouts ended up being a little shorter than I would like. I have plenty of up. Probably 40 degrees, but my down line stops at the eyelit giving me 20 to 25 degrees. My question before I cover the wing is. Will this be enough down? IM not flying competition, no hourglass or outside square loops but I would like to perform outside loops comfortably. Please advise.

peabody · Aug 09, 2004 08:31 PM

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That's plenty, although equal up and down are the best....you really only need 15-20 degrees to fly one through an Old Time pattern.
I would spend a bit of time trying to equalize the controls.
Have fun

See Ya

Peabody

Steve Helmick · Aug 09, 2004 08:47 PM

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I can't believe it, but I'm agreeing with Mr. Peabody. Nothing will mess you up worse than having unequal turn radius inside/outside, except maybe different speed inside/outside. You may be able to overcome either with skill and daring, but it's not likely for most of us. You could limit the up, 20 degrees will be enough if the CG is about right. Steve

LeagueCityRalph · Aug 09, 2004 09:11 PM

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Wouldn't it be really simple to cut the pushrod and install a "solder-type" split-coupler to adjust the relative amount of Up/Down? I know I've seen negative comments regarding these devices, but I NEVER had one fail when using good Silver-solder.

Just my opinion . . .

Ralph Wenzel

peabody · Aug 09, 2004 09:14 PM

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Ralph....that's assuming that the pushrod is too short. I would bet that there would be no problem with a plane this size, providing that it was soldiered properly (don't let me do it).
If the pushrod is too long, several remedies are available.

See Ya

Peabody

Colnago · Aug 10, 2004 01:40 AM

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I was wondering I kind of read the first post, I might be getting the question all wrong but was it the actual leadouts that came out a bit short, I built the Brodak Circus Prince which is a very similar plane, I know the kit had barely enough leadout wire in it to make the lines long enough out of the wing tip, the Circus Prince had a coupler for the control rod though, but I was not to crazy about using it but did, anyway I was just curious as it kind of sounded like you ran into the same probelm I did with the kit I am not shure if that was the case or not,but I used the rod coupler also to center the travel on the prince so I guess that is idea as well.

pelham · Aug 10, 2004 06:35 AM

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Yes, that is the same problem I am having. As cheap as leadout wire is, you would think the kit would come with enough so this would'nt occur.

gcb · Aug 10, 2004 06:22 AM

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Unless Brodak has changed it since I got mine, the Flying Clown DOES have a two piece pushrod.
I too assumed the problem is different leadout lengths. Assuming the bellcrank is centered correctly, I would center and limit control at the handle unless that handle is needed for other planes.
Just another $.02 worth.

George

Tony G · Aug 10, 2004 03:00 AM

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>I have almost completed my flying clown kit. My leadouts
>ended up being a little shorter than I would like. I have
>plenty of up. Probably 40 degrees, but my down line stops at
>the eyelit giving me 20 to 25 degrees. My question before I
>cover the wing is. Will this be enough down? IM not flying
>competition, no hourglass or outside square loops but I
>would like to perform outside loops comfortably. Please
>advise.

Hi Pel, To do it right, reinstall long enough leadouts so the down
lead doesn't hit the eyelet; then adjust your control throws for
equal up and down...20-25 degrees is all you need if the C.G. is
correct....Please make sure of that correctness...!
Tony