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DJMalott · Sep 12, 2000 03:16 PM

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I'm posting this on more than one BBS in an effort to find the person with the answers.

The Aviation Board, who manages both airports in Fort Wayne, has given persmission to use ground at Smith Field, our regional airport named for aviation pioneer Art Smith. The airport is pretty run down and, more than anything else, they want activity. We're going to do our best to give them just that. Although we have three areas from which to choose, we've picked the one along the main road for maximum exposure.

Now for the problem. There may be some grass, but the weeds are up to a foot tall, and the ground is very rough. Since part of the land between runways is growing soybeans, our area may have had the same use in the past. It obviously needs improved before much CL flying is going to be done. As many as a dozen of us are meeting next week to discuss what we are currently doing, the chartering of an AMA sanctioned club, the field itself and what to do with it. Probably we'll begin with just one circle, in grass. It would be nice to have a hard surfaced circle, as well, but first things first.

The weeds need knocked down, and the ground needs leveled (badly) and seeded. How would accomplish all that? Roundup to knock down the vegitation? A tiller or some other tractor-drawn equipment? What type(s) of grass (in Northern Indiana) would lend itself to being cut short without burning out? In the process, when should it be rolled?

We feel fortunate to have the ground to use, especially at a time when so many flying sites are being lost. We'd like to do a good job of establishing the site and taking care of it. Thanks for whatever advice you can give.

"Doesn't play well with others"
Denny Malott

LNeumann · Sep 12, 2000 06:06 PM

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The Peoria Group has an excellent site with two well manicured grass circles. You may wish to check with them.

Also, as an alternate idea, the New Albany, Indiana group for many years has had two dirt circles. These were dragged and packed down to such a point that rain just makes them harder. It was almost like flying off a paved surface (but, of course, there would be some dirt and sand to contend with.)

Leonard Neumann

DJMalott · Sep 12, 2000 06:19 PM

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Leonard, the only Peoria club I find in the AMA roster is the Peoria RC Modelers Club. Is that the club you're referring to? Do you have a contact name...an email address...whatever?

"Doesn't play well with others"
Denny Malott

Steve Helmick · Sep 12, 2000 09:51 PM

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You really should contact Nils Nordling in Metolius, Oregon. He did a fantastic job (with the help of some converted R/C guys) to build the grass circle at "Field of Dreams", in Redmond, OR. We flew at this site in July at their first contest, and it was wonderful to fly on grass. Smooth and short, a great landing was
almost automatic if you "greased it" in fast. The grass would slow the model quickly but not too quickly. Takeoffs tend to be a
little steep, but everybody has the same problem. Nils can give you the details, but I will say this...do it right, get it flat with a slight crown for drainage, with underground sprinkler system if you can. Steve

Nils · Sep 26, 2000 09:11 PM

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Thanks Steve, I'm glad you liked our circle I was fortunate enough to borrow a JD 410 backhoe to make our circle after trying in vain to mow (hack) & scrape out a circle with a drag & pickup. No way. After I got the hoe I scraped all the brush etc. out of the way & started moving dirt from the high side to the low side, moving rocks, stumps & roots as I dug 'em up (thousands of 'em!) & watering the whole time to keep the dust down. The ground looked fairly level before we started & it was, only a few feet higher on one side than the other. Didn't look like much, but it turned out to be tons & tons & tons of dirt! Ours is 150' in diameter & could stand to be 160'. I'm enlarging it a bit for next year. We rented a ditcher & put in 7 underground sprinklers, six in a hex pattern & one in the middle, all run from an automatic timer. We seeded it with leftovers from several guys lawns. After driving around on the dirt with the 14 thousand pound hoe for weeks (I had to learn to run it!) the dirt was really hard, so we pulled a spring-tooth around in circles before we planted. I think the grass would have come in faster if we'd loosened up the soil a little more but I'm not sure how we could have done it. It was a lot more work than I though it was going to be, that's for sure. I worked on it all last summer when I really wanted to be flying, BUT IT WAS WORTH IT! Now I can (& DO) fly whenever I want! 846 flights since Jan 1 this year & counting. AND, we now have some of the R/C pilots flying control line on a regular basis! AND, since it is adjoining the R/C field, I have the opportunity to put a handle in anyones hand that shows any interest at all! Don't forget to make room for the pits! If you need more input email me.
Nils

LNeumann · Sep 12, 2000 10:35 PM

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The club is the Peoria Area Wyreflyers. You could try contacting Bill Zimmer (PO Box 72, Varna, IL 61375) or Mark Overmier (2501 Brookens Cir, Urbana, IL 61801) They could steer you in the right direction.

Leonard Neumann

SteveD · Sep 24, 2000 08:14 AM

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It can be done, it depends on the depth of your pocket book!First the standing cover should get removed.( did my own with a good riding lawnmower) Next a rental center should have a good sized rear mounted rotortiller, use accordingly. A old box spring mattress works well to smooth it out from there. A stop at the local golf course (and mabee a quick 9 ) and talking to the greens keeper will get you on the right track for the type of grass you will want to use. hope this helps.