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norvaldo · Sep 27, 2004 03:10 PM

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Do not know what you pay for this in the US.
A local grocery shop had som 10 kr ($1.25) sale today.
There were packets of 6 CA glue tubes (3 gr .10 oz)
so i got myself 60 of these tubes for $12.50
Norvald Olsvold

LNeumann · Sep 27, 2004 04:44 PM

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It sounds like a good enough deal. I don't know how this stuff compares to the hobby type glue, but the small packets can have the advantage of perhaps keeping longer since you are opening small quantities at a time.

Leonard Neumann

dirtydan · Sep 27, 2004 05:17 PM

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>It sounds like a good enough deal. I don't know how this
>stuff compares to the hobby type glue, but the small packets
>can have the advantage of perhaps keeping longer since you
>are opening small quantities at a time.

That may prove to be the case, but often these small containers of glue have been discovered to have sat in a warehouse for too long. The result might well be a reduced-price sale.

I think it would have been wise to buy one unit, test the glue on materials we use prior to buying a bunch.

Still, I hope it worked out for you, although CA in the U.S. seems relatively inexpensive, especially in the very limited quantities I buy and use.

Incidentally, back when the Hunter/Satellite City father-and-son team first introduced Hot Stuff (CA) to the hobby world, I was an independent sales rep and one of the companies worked for was A&L Distributors. They were the very first distributor in the world to stock Hot Stuff. I know for a fact the retail pricing was $10.00 and remember this as being for 1/4 ounce, 7 grams. Willing to be corrected on this. Helmick, you've got a better memory than I, how's about it?

Still, this morning I was ordering engine parts and there was some sort of special on, where I bought a couple 2-ounce bottles for something less than $5.00 each. And it wasn't even cheapest line of CA glues these guys carry...

Dan

kdheath · Sep 27, 2004 05:58 PM

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When Kodak released the original CA glue (it had a number for a name, like 5447 or something), it was waaay expensive, like $100 per ounce.

dirtydan · Sep 27, 2004 06:04 PM

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>When Kodak released the original CA glue (it had a number
>for a name, like 5447 or something), it was waaay expensive,
>like $100 per ounce.

I had always heard original CA glue referred to as "Eastman 910."

And the boys hanging around tool cribs at the Boeing Co., preparing to check out a very small quantity for some specialized production process (wing spars for 737s was where I first saw it being used) were good for lots of information as to the cost of glue, but lacking in credibility or even any way of actually knowing.

Dan

Broken Wings · Sep 27, 2004 06:37 PM

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>>When Kodak released the original CA glue (it had a number
>>for a name, like 5447 or something), it was waaay expensive,
>>like $100 per ounce.
>
>I had always heard original CA glue referred to as "Eastman
>910."
>
>And the boys hanging around tool cribs at the Boeing Co.,
>preparing to check out a very small quantity for some
>specialized production process (wing spars for 737s was
>where I first saw it being used) were good for lots of
>information as to the cost of glue, but lacking in
>credibility or even any way of actually knowing.
>
>Dan
>
>
I remember using Eastman 910 at Martin Marietta but it was black and didn't stick balsa very well. The best stuff from the tool crib was the Hysol foil epoxy packs that you fold over, tear and squeeze out a perfect mix. I think it was 7-10 min stuff. I remember picking it out of the dumpster by the box full because the shelf life expired.

Regards,
John Jolley

norvaldo · Sep 27, 2004 06:53 PM

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Well , i have tested it and it is ok.
Norvald Olsvold

Iskandar Taib · Sep 28, 2004 05:53 AM

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The best deal I ever came across for CyA was when Dave Shadel (pspec.com) got a bunch of it and was selling it for 50 cents an ounce in 1 ounce bottles. Someone actually posted about it here (or maybe it was on my old forum). I bought a large number of the bottles. I still have some in the freezer, and I sold a bunch of it to other Combat fliers for a buck a bottle. No e-bay back then, I could've made a killing.

Yeah, the first CyA was called Eastman 910. The story (if I recall it correctly) goes that the person who discovered it was developing plastics while working for Eastman Kodak. One of the standard tests was for refractive index, and to do this, you put the liquid in between two glass elements (I think prisms). Except in this case, they never got the glass parts apart again.

dirtydan · Sep 28, 2004 01:56 PM

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>Yeah, the first CyA was called Eastman 910. The story (if I
>recall it correctly) goes that the person who discovered it
>was developing plastics while working for Eastman Kodak. One
>of the standard tests was for refractive index, and to do
>this, you put the liquid in between two glass elements (I
>think prisms). Except in this case, they never got the glass
>parts apart again.

That's the story I heard, although same might be difficult to confirm.

Does anyone remember the dates involved in developing Eastman 910 and what we have come to know simply as "CA" glues? I seem to remember hearing it was undergoing lab tests in the late 50s, but have no real idea. Experiences at BAC took place in the late 60s, by the way.

Dan

50plusAirYears · Sep 28, 2004 07:05 PM

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Sorry to mention this magazine, but the first article I ever saw on CA glue was in a 1958 or 1959 Model Railroader magazine. The glue was the Eastman 910, made by Kodak as a slide mount adhesive. It came in the very small .1 ounce tubes like you see on grocery racks, and cost well over $9.00 per tube. That could be several hours work for someone back then. The article stated it only worked on non-pourus materials. Apparently, photo or slide mount cardboard is not very pourus.
The first CA I ever used, believe it or not, was something I found in a small box in a dump. It was labeled as a surgical adhesive for medical use to seal small shallow cuts and abrasions.

faif2d · Sep 28, 2004 08:01 PM

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late 50's sounds right. There was a family friend that was a chemist and they made some and glued one of their group to a chair. Almost got a bunch of them fired. I was still in high school so it was prior to 1962.

I used to like painting with dope but now I can't remember why. Steve Fauble

50plusAirYears · Sep 28, 2004 08:27 PM

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You almost made me curious enough with this CA idea to try to dig out the magazine. I believe I still have it with my collection.