Airframe for a McCoy RH 19?

SSW Gurus,

I'm looking to match an airplane to a McCoy 19 RH in very good condition. I know it's a slug compared to modern power plants, but given its limitations, what is a properly sized model? Current kits are a big plus. I don't buy these (cheap) engines to look at them, except in the front of an airplane, going around in circles.

First guess was a Sig Akromaster, but it's certainly too heavy for that. My best guess would be the old Goldberg profiles, like a really light Shoestring. Not available, and it would fly better with a 35 RH, just ask Randy Ryan!

Maybe a Brodak Buster?

How about a really light Twister?

I also have a nice three-bolt Fox 19, same question...

Thanks for your thoughts,

Andy

AN ARF Fight Streak
Buster
TOMAHAWK
Galaxy
U-KEY
Trixy
Feno
Shark 15
Scott(Just a few)Riese

PS there not slugs

>AN ARF Fight Streak
>Buster
>TOMAHAWK
>Galaxy
>U-KEY
>Trixy
>Feno
>Shark 15
>Scott(Just a few)Riese
>
>PS there not slugs

I agree, I don't think they're slugs either, or I wouldn't buy them! But I have heard it said...I had thought of the ARF FS, good to get a second on that motion. I have an LA 25 for mine, but maybe the McCoy would be a good choice. Of course I can just get a second airplane and fly both engines...

BTW- I do need a muffler. Any known over-the-counter options?

Thanks,

AT

"PS there not slugs"

See Andy, I told ya' so! Most of the McCoy.19s I've had were close to on par with a good Torp GH .19 believe it or not.

A light Brodak Buster would be fine. The Red Head 19 (and Fox you have) are very good 4-2 engines as you know. Maybe not ST 46s but still quite good. They will probably be too heavy for any of the 15 size planes such as the Shark 15, etc.
Believe it or not, I have a RH 19 in a Fierce Arrow 400 and it is a very competent performer. Todd Lee used your Fox 19 in his and did very well in Classic.
I had a RH 19 in my first Shoestring back in '65. Flew it well.

Bill <><

I fly a Tomahawk, Fox 19, one wheel. It has only 325 sq in so its somewhat smaller than a Buster, Ringmaster. Also Jr Flite streak, Shark 15,All American Jr. Possibly a light Veco Papoose.

John,
I would only be concerned with the nose weight on those 15 size planes, do you have to add much tail weight?
I had totally forgot the Papoose. I had one in '74 that flew like gangbusters with a RH 19.
The Brodak Buster tends to build a little lighter than the original Goldberg, so I believe that under normal (whatever that is) conditions those engines would do ok.
I had an original PDQ Circus Prince that I put a RH 19 in. Had to add tail weight, and the tank couldn't gfet big enough, but it had plenty of power. That plane was from '64. I am about ready to recover it and repaint it now. I have a Brodak Circus Prince in the same condition and both will have Fox 15s. An X and a steel fin.
Bill <><

We have a guy at our field flying a Ringmaster Jr with a 4 bolt backplate Fox 19. Definitely nose heavy, but its used as trainer.
But since weight has been brought up, here's what I remember:
Fox 19 4 bolt bp-6 oz, Fox 19 3 bolt bp-5.5 oz, Fox 25 4 bolt bp-5.8 oz, Fox 25 3 bolt bp-5.3 oz, Fox 15X-3.3 oz, Cub 19 3 oz, Cub 14 2.9 oz. Can't remember Enya 15, 19, McCoy 19, Torp 15,19, Cox 15. But all planes need to be balanced to fly right and you should select the engine based on weight as well as power.
I think someone has mentioned Nobler Jr. I still have a modified one that I built in 1966 with a Cox 15, 9-4 rev up, but weighs close to 40 oz. Flies OK considering. I think its classic legal because I modified it before 1969.

Hey Hey Andy,

Them McCoys run pretty darned good. I am planning on putting a 19 on a George Aldrich Peacemaker. This is not the full fuselage Peacemaker, but a profile that was designed for the UK market. It has a 36.5" span with 300 square inches of area. It looks a lot like a Flite Streak with rounded corners on the wing tips and tail. Was originally designed for 2.5 to 3.5 cc Diesel. Got my plans from Barry Baxter at http://www.controllineplans.com/frameset2.htm.

I got the fuse cut out and a few other parts and got distracted building my Flite Streak, but plan to get a Peacemaker built for the McCoy 19 this winter. Will build the wing with two 1/4" spars and a 3/8" leading edge as the plans show a much more complicated structure which is probably lighter, but a lot more difficult to construct.

Anyway, I think it will be a good match for McCoy 19.

Regards,

If you fancy a full fuse model how about the Brodak Vampire (when it finally arrives).

Or a Scimitar?

Or:

Jr Nobler
Jr Tony
Mercury Monarch
KK Spectre

Tony

>Or a Scimitar?
>
Tony,

This one is an absolute favorite from your web page. Hadn't thought of it for the 19 RH, but it would be a dandy.

Thanks to all of you for the good advice. The Peacemaker (profile) is another favorite, and a great choice. Of course the ARF Flite Streak is pretty close...

Andy

That Scimitar looks suprizingly like a Shoestring.

Charles Mackey's 'The Profile' is a nice looker too!

Tony

I was going to put one in a Jr Nobler, but the fuselage would have to be widened. Its really a .15 ship, 42in, but high aspect, not a lot of squares. And it says up to .25 on the box! Seems like a pattern back in the fifties. Were half the ships built back then total bombs? Remember all those boxes that said: "Ideal for all A,B,C engines!!" Don

I flew the hound out of a Charles Mackey Profile with a Redhead 19 and it was really a good combination. The Mackey Profile is an excellent flying Classic era airplane.