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gavoss · Oct 03, 2004 03:11 AM

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OK guys I need some graphic design help. I want to use a checkered flag in one of my designs. I'll be using plastic film so I can't soft shade, but I can use grey to show some shadow effect. The flag I have in mind will be pennant shaped, with about 6 black and 6 white squares at the pole end, tapering to one square. I would like to have 3-4 'folds' in the flag. The photos below are close, but not exactly what I'm looking for. The Impact is probably closer since it has one fold, but no shadow.

Can one of you graphically knowledgeable people help me out, or at least point me to someone who can? gv

http://www.control-line.org/DesktopModules/Photos/view_image.aspx?id=197&mid=333&pid=0

http://www.control-line.org/DesktopModules/Photos/view_image.aspx?id=135&mid=333&pid=0

Bob Reeves · Oct 03, 2004 08:26 AM

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Have you tried using Google's image search for "Checkered Flag" I didn't try it but you might be suprized what it will bring up.

Randy Powell · Oct 03, 2004 11:01 AM

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The second plane is Howard Rush's Impact. He did his checkerboard in CAD and made a templates. Might email him for details.

Mel Duval · Oct 03, 2004 01:42 PM

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Check this pic out. There is a fairly complete set of posts on how to do this in the Profile Brotherhood section on RCU.
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later,
Mel D.

Steve Helmick · Oct 03, 2004 04:04 PM

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Call this guy, and explain what you want to do. He will probably be able to help. First, check what he has as stock samples. http://www.rockinrose.com/ Steve

gavoss · Oct 03, 2004 07:04 PM

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Thanks for the lead. I didn't even think of contacting a vinyl cutter. gv

kdheath · Oct 04, 2004 12:54 AM

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>Call this guy, and explain what you want to do. He will
>probably be able to help. First, check what he has as stock
>samples. http://www.rockinrose.com/ Steve

I had a very good experience with this company. He took a verbal description and some dimensions and made exactly what I wanted, and cheaper than any other place I contacted.

Howard Rush · Oct 04, 2004 12:14 AM

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I just calculated what a checkerboard would look like from above if it went around a quarter circle in one direction, then a quarter circle in the other direction and continued on a parallel, lower plane. I transfered the numbers to a CAD program, then took the CAD file to a sign shop. There are hundreds of these shops in Seattle. They have plotters with knives in them instead of pens. They cut a sheet of sticky-back vinyl as they would for a sign, then put a sheet of stuff like masking tape on the front of the vinyl to hold the mess together while I removed the backing and peeled off half the vinyl pieces. I then applied this mask to the airplane and removed the masking tape stuff from the top. That left a nice vinyl mask. I gave the airplane a toot of black and then peeled off the remaining vinyl. I did two Impacts with the same technique without incident. You can have a copy of my file if I can find it.

Some vinyl sticks more than others. People want vinyl signs to stay stuck, whereas we would rather not have vinyl masks pull up the dope and covering when we remove them. On my first airplane, I used regular sign vinyl and got away with it. On the second, I used some lower-tack stuff made for advertising signs on buses, which get peeled off after a limited time. It worked dandy. I've heard of stuff called Gerber Mask, which is lower-tack vinyl made for masks, rather than signs. There are some people who make vinyl lettering specifically for models. They'd know what to use.

dirtydan · Oct 04, 2004 02:32 PM

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Yesterday morning and on into the afternoon I got stuck restraining Howard's model against the weak pull of what we call his "puny 40," an O.S. 40VF on pipe.

Although the model has been around for years, it's one of those timeless pieces which one appreciates all the more every time it is seen. I'd follow Howard's advice.

Dan

Sparky12366 · Oct 04, 2004 02:39 PM

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>I just calculated what a checkerboard would look like from
>above if it went around a quarter circle in one direction,
>then a quarter circle in the other direction and continued
>on a parallel, lower plane. I transfered the numbers to a
>CAD program, then took the CAD file to a sign shop. There
>are hundreds of these shops in Seattle. They have plotters
>with knives in them instead of pens. They cut a sheet of
>sticky-back vinyl as they would for a sign, then put a sheet
>of stuff like masking tape on the front of the vinyl to hold
>the mess together while I removed the backing and peeled off
>half the vinyl pieces. I then applied this mask to the
>airplane and removed the masking tape stuff from the top.
>That left a nice vinyl mask. I gave the airplane a toot of
>black and then peeled off the remaining vinyl. I did two
>Impacts with the same technique without incident. You can
>have a copy of my file if I can find it.
>
>Some vinyl sticks more than others. People want vinyl signs
>to stay stuck, whereas we would rather not have vinyl masks
>pull up the dope and covering when we remove them. On my
>first airplane, I used regular sign vinyl and got away with
>it. On the second, I used some lower-tack stuff made for
>advertising signs on buses, which get peeled off after a
>limited time. It worked dandy. I've heard of stuff called
>Gerber Mask, which is lower-tack vinyl made for masks,
>rather than signs. There are some people who make vinyl
>lettering specifically for models. They'd know what to use.

At you local art supply you can buy *FRISKET* Paper. works fine for checks.

Robert Storick
AMA 12366
Saint Louis,MO.

Howard Rush · Oct 04, 2004 02:58 PM

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That's the John Henry solution. I was referring to the steam drill.

N42222 · Oct 04, 2004 04:03 PM

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....steam drill drove it 19 inches, Henry drove it twenty-five , Lord Lord....you've got roots, Howard! PS- Impcat flying very well, thanks to all the help I got. Hope Bob G. doesn't frown to much when he tries it out- said he would like see how it does. dg