Cardinal Weight

What is the average weight of a Cardinal profile with a typical 40 engine?
Thanks

Hi Milt,
A little help for my friend. I just copied this from another thread. Maybe it will help some. From what I have seen this is on the light side. I suspect 48 to 54 to be more realistic as the arf's I've seen have been on the heavy side due to heavier than normal wood. Also the arf's I saw were laminated with ply on both sides of the fuselage. Anyone else??

I just finished my arf Cardinal. At 40 oz. with a OS .40
LA and 4oz. tank. I can't wait to fly her. I'm not to worried about the leadouts either. A $100 airplane, especialy the 1st. The first one is really a trial one don't you think? I,m waiting for the 1st. post that says the leadouts broke at the bellcrank or the wing tip.
Then if I get another one I'll modify it. As for now I wouldn't worry about it.
Greg Hart <><

>What is the average weight of a Cardinal profile with a
>typical 40 engine?
>Thanks

According to Windy something in the mid 40's. Weight of modern 40 will vary from about 8 to 12 oz. finish could vary 6 or 8 oz depending on what type finish is used. Mine with a K&B 40, fiberglassed fuselage, and painted finish weighed @ 47 oz.

buddy Ken has one that weighs 41 oz. with an LA 40 and a chip muffler. His old one has gradually inched up to 49 oz. an is no longer a good flyer.

Hey Phil,

Ken dose have some great flying stunters.

This season a friend of mine had some bad luck. (Crashed plane).
I lent him my Profile Cardinal Duane Cowan OS LA .46, Bolly 12-4 cf prop. It now wieghs 49 oz. 4.5 years old, about 360 flights. (New 45 oz.)
He flew Intermediate PA in 4 contest. 1 2nd place & 3 1st place , no appearance points.
I think it is still a great flyer.

Milton:

I flew one this year at 45 oz with a K & B 40 (4011) and stock muffler after destroying my #1 ship at VSC. This was a stock kit, Lustrecote on the fuselage and Ultracote shrink on over everything else. Can't say I loved the airplane but it was very competitive in advanced and P-40. We have several locally from that weight to the high 50s.

The K&B is docile but heavy (13.7 with the heavy stock muffler, and they seem to run better with the stock muffler). A Brodak .40 will save you 5 oz BUT built stock from the kit, you'll be tail heavy so plan accordingly. Break the Brodak in EXACTLY as he says and it would be a nice combination!

It's a healthy wing and carries weight well. They can get heavy on the controls so set your system up accordingly. I have a 58 oz Brodak Lagg which is much lighter on the controls, yet it has real turn/stall limits where my Cardinal could do pretty much what you asked it. I have nerve and muscle problems in my flying hand so I'm very aware of heaviness in controls.

Keep it straight and light, see that the rear fuselage is dead stiff and that the controls are right and you'll have a fine airplane.

Well, my first had a very light fuselage, the wood was almost white, so it was close to 4-6 pound balsa and finished with a ST .46 it came to 40.8 oz. ready to fly, less fuel. My next came in at 48 oz. on the nose and flew better, smoother and more steady, or else I got better, LOL. It will carry the weight at 45 to 48 oz with a good .40 to .46 no problem assuming it is built correctly. It is just a great profile stunter, similar to me to the Magician in its day. Actually it is better than the Magician, but it was the best flying profile stunter kit on the market in the 60's and early 70's.