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V12 · Oct 28, 2004 11:59 AM

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Well, here’s the Brodak ARC Smoothie, ready to fly. The Bro-Zam .48 with the MVVS aluminum pipe and Rev-Up 14-5 should be adequate power. Not sure of what fuel to use – possibly Powermaster 40% nitro, 10% oil.
Comments, please.
Bob Z.

V12 · Oct 28, 2004 12:00 PM

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Forgot engine close-up!

Bill Little · Oct 28, 2004 12:12 PM

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Up the oil content a *little* bit!

Stick that Veco 35 in it and tell us how it does!

Bill <><

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

V12 · Oct 28, 2004 12:51 PM

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11%??????????????????

glenwearden · Oct 28, 2004 12:47 PM

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Sure looks nice, Bob! Is the aluminum landing gear part of the kit?
Glen

V12 · Oct 28, 2004 12:51 PM

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Yes!!! We plan on aluminum gear pretty much across the board.
Bob Z.

Dr Spark · Oct 28, 2004 01:06 PM

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I assume that "ARC": means Almost Ready to Cover. I hope those who fly this plane will opt for a paint/color scheme closer to one that Bob Palmer made famous.

Floyd

Swordsman18 · Oct 28, 2004 01:14 PM

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>I assume that "ARC": means Almost Ready to Cover. I hope
>those who fly this plane will opt for a paint/color scheme
>closer to one that Bob Palmer made famous.
>

The (covered and finished) ARF version comes in Bob Palmer's original scheme. I somehow doubt the purchasers of the ARCs are going to opt for the same trim scheme, given that it will make their finishing efforts look just like the ARFs coming out of the box...

Andy

LNeumann · Oct 28, 2004 01:13 PM

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>Forgot engine close-up!

Oh, a pipe on a classic ship. The pain! The pain!

Dr Spark · Oct 28, 2004 01:19 PM

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Here is an example of the Palmer paint scheme, as close as I could come with Brodak colors. FLOYD

Swordsman18 · Oct 28, 2004 02:07 PM

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>Here is an example of the Palmer paint scheme, as close as I
>could come with Brodak colors. FLOYD


Here's a shrunk versoin, easier to see...

This is of course not the "classic" Smoothie scheme. What model is this?

Andy

peabody · Oct 28, 2004 02:12 PM

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Zed-man...I thought that you were going to use that supercharged OS motor in that?


See Ya

Peabody

V12 · Oct 28, 2004 02:19 PM

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I was but the supercharger drive belt broke.

Bob Z.

Max1998 · Oct 28, 2004 02:54 PM

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Nitrous and the APC 12x12 ? OH OH OH

V12 · Oct 28, 2004 03:05 PM

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Nitrous - I LIKE it!
Bob Z.

Dr Spark · Oct 28, 2004 03:21 PM

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This is HI-BOY. Designed by Bob Palmer and Ted Goyet.

Floyd

V12 · Oct 28, 2004 03:06 PM

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Leonard - I would never put a pipe on a Classic plane - the Smoothie is OTS!
Bob Z.

Propwash · Oct 28, 2004 03:29 PM

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Bob, what is the retail on this puppy and when is it available? I'm new to this board so fill me in. Thanx

V12 · Oct 28, 2004 03:46 PM

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Hello, William - The only thing I have on this is the actual prototype that I'm evaluating/developing. I've recently sent all the engineering changes to the manufacturer. The cost and delivery schedule should, in the near future, be available from Brodak .
They've done a fine job on the prototype and it should be a very nice OTS/Classic stunt plane. There will, of course, also be a covered (ARF) version available.
The plane will fly this weekend and I plan to publish a very brief report on my mailing list.
Bob Z

Circle Burner · Oct 28, 2004 03:47 PM

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Why would you put a pipe on this design? It really looks out of place on the classic design.

tomB · Oct 28, 2004 06:21 PM

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Gosh - I thought it looked kind of cool. A tuned pipe is just a bigger muffler, and any classic design's looks are ruined by one of those anyway.

ducking ...

Jim P · Oct 28, 2004 07:32 PM

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> The Bro-Zam .48 with the MVVS aluminum pipe and Rev-Up 14-5 should be adequate power.
Bob:
Sadly insufficient. A strong ST 60 with and APC 18-8 should fly it OK unless the wind is up.

SRiese5283 · Oct 28, 2004 08:04 PM

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Smoothie on a PIPE......what a waste. Should of put in a FP-20 works every time........

AN OTS with a pipe....we need a rule change

BOM....we need a rule change

ARF....Change the DOGS Name

Scott(I want one)Riese}>

DesignMan · Oct 28, 2004 08:06 PM

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How about a Saito .40 on each wing as backup?

Circle Burner · Oct 28, 2004 08:09 PM

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No No NO

Moki 1.8 !!!!! No pipe required!!!

Garf · Oct 28, 2004 10:59 PM

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Exactly what is a Bro-Zam .48, or is it an inside joke?

Bill Little · Oct 28, 2004 11:26 PM

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The "Bro-Zam 48" is a concoction of Mr. Zambelli. Brodak 40 case and a big piston/liner fit to it. Why? Because it's there.

Bill <><

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

The Martini Kid · Oct 29, 2004 10:25 AM

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Smoothie with a .48, 14in prop and a Pipe? Is this guy serious? That's just wrong. It's like Rosanne in spandex: some things that should not be in public view....I agree with Scotty on that the FP .40 would be perfect.

Dick Fowler · Oct 29, 2004 11:29 AM

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>Smoothie with a .48, 14in prop and a Pipe? Is this guy
>serious? That's just wrong. It's like Rosanne in spandex:
>some things that should not be in public view....I agree
>with Scotty on that the FP .40 would be perfect.

This guy is as serious as a heart attack. Bob was instrumental in the developement of the current ARF and ARC Brodak kits, and in my opinion has done a fine job.

Come to think of it Bob... "Smoothie with a .48, 14in prop and a Pipe?"
Are you serious?

The Martini Kid · Oct 29, 2004 01:03 PM

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I agree that he has done an excellent job so far. I have an ARF Oriental and Cardinal and I am pleased with them both. I was just making sure he didn't have a 'mental' slip...

V12 · Oct 29, 2004 11:52 AM

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Guys - it's a SPOOF!
Yes, it's a real Brodak ARC Smoothie, but, as some caught on, I was playing with the powerplant description.
The pipe is from an MVVS .40 R/C pylon engine, weighs a lot and is for top-end only. I would never put in on a stunt plane. I carved the little manifold from a piece of balsa and painted it silver!

First flight will be tomorrow (weather permitting) with a good old Brodak .40 and a 10-6 or thereabouts prop.

The plane is ready to go at 38 ounces. Allen Brickaus is sharing the work and there will be an article soon.

Bob Z.

peabody · Oct 29, 2004 12:04 PM

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You mean that you were fibbing about th blower belt?


See Ya

Peabody

V12 · Oct 29, 2004 12:21 PM

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It was a supercharger belt. The blower doesn't have one.
Bob Z.

SRiese5283 · Oct 29, 2004 02:08 PM

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>Guys - it's a SPOOF!
>Yes, it's a real Brodak ARC Smoothie, but, as some caught
>on, I was playing with the powerplant description.
>The pipe is from an MVVS .40 R/C pylon engine, weighs a lot
>and is for top-end only. I would never put in on a stunt
>plane. I carved the little manifold from a piece of balsa
>and painted it silver!
>
>First flight will be tomorrow (weather permitting) with a
>good old Brodak .40 and a 10-6 or thereabouts prop.
>
>The plane is ready to go at 38 ounces. Allen Brickaus is
>sharing the work and there will be an article soon.
>
>>it enouguh yet. As pointed out, it's a Brodak .40 case with
>a larger piston and sleeve, bringing the total displacement
>to .48. It's just an experiment]
>
>Bob Z.

OOOOHHHHH Thanks BOB. I just ordered an Rossijettosfp20.
Scott(got some PRIME swamp land for sale)Riese

V12 · Oct 29, 2004 12:22 PM

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Rosanne in spandex? That's beyond obscene!

cwmcmillin · Oct 29, 2004 12:30 PM

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Is that paint scheme for the Halloween season or is that the official Brodak job. You guys live close enough to Urtnowski to know better. UGH.
Chris...

V12 · Oct 29, 2004 01:00 PM

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Hi, Chris - no, Windy and John Brodak had nothing to do with the paint job. It's my own design. I thought it was OK.
Bob Z.

Circle Burner · Oct 29, 2004 01:25 PM

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Who cares about the paint job, it's a test model! I want to hear how it flies and hopefully get it to the consumer asap!

Paint job....give me a break! Keep up the good work V12!

Propwash · Oct 29, 2004 02:54 PM

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I second that thought. I've had several versions of the Smoothie and loved them all. Am dying to see the results of the new ARC.

Tim McTigue · Oct 29, 2004 04:47 PM

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>Hi, Chris - no, Windy and John Brodak had nothing to do with
>the paint job. It's my own design. I thought it was OK.
>Bob Z.

I for one think it's a great color scheme! Looks really cool and original. I might copy it one day...

Louis · Oct 29, 2004 05:28 PM

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Come on now, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think Roseanne would look quite lovely in spandex. Well, at least better than she would look out of it.

Bill Little · Oct 30, 2004 12:58 AM

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> Well, at least
>better than she would look out of it.

Geez, just the mental image of that will keep me from sleeping tonight! AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG!!! Think I might have to regurgitate supper.
Bill <><

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

ty marcucci · Oct 30, 2004 11:43 AM

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Hi Bill. Try this image of Roseanne. Football helmet with full face guard, shoulder pads, hip pads, shoes with cleats, and sitting on the opposing teams bench. Ha. Now you can sleep tonight. Oh, yes, in spandex.

ty marcucci · Oct 30, 2004 11:42 AM

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Louis, I think you are still suffering from too much sea duty!

Dr Spark · Oct 30, 2004 01:52 PM

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As a baseline, you should know that Bob Palmer flew a Smoothie in the fall of 1951 with a Veco 29 set so rich it just barely kept running.

(Contest at Santa Anita racetrack in Arcadia, CA. I was there)

Floyd

SRiese5283 · Oct 30, 2004 05:12 PM

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FLOYD....Your Old!!!!

V12 · Nov 01, 2004 09:17 AM

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The ARC prototype was flown last Saturday. Report coming soon, in the product review section - or, contact me at
Bob Z

Dr Spark · Nov 01, 2004 04:29 PM

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Scott. "Old" is only a state of mind! Last week, I turned 71 but mind and body are those of a 40 year old (ladies, contact me on my e-mail).

Floyd

dirtydan · Nov 01, 2004 05:51 PM

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>Scott. "Old" is only a state of mind! Last week, I turned
>71 but mind and body are those of a 40 year old (ladies,
>contact me on my e-mail).
>
>Floyd


This from a guy who says he removes his clothing prior to entering his home when returning from flying diesels.

I advise caution if contact is made. As in, don't ask, "Are ya nekkid?" He might well be in a state of undress...

Dan

Dr Spark · Nov 02, 2004 07:28 PM

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Mr. Dan. I really expected that you would come up with the old Groucho Marx reply; "So when do you have to give your 40 year-old mind and body back to the owner?" I anticiapted your response, but I guess I got there first.

FC

cwmcmillin · Nov 01, 2004 11:01 PM

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Thank you for your frankness in admitting this.
Chris...