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Jay Williams · Nov 08, 2004 11:02 AM

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I seen this Fox .049 on the Bay. Tell me honest. Is this thing really worth what the ending bid was? I mean WOW! For that kind of money he could of gotten a real motor.

Jay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5930666102&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT#ebayphotohosting

Treat each day as if it were your last, because one day, it will be.

dennis · Nov 08, 2004 01:11 PM

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Considering that you can still get one of these from Virginia hobbies for about $55.00, I'd say there was a real case of auction feaver here.
Worth that much, Definitely not.
Dennis

Swordsman18 · Nov 08, 2004 01:45 PM

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> Considering that you can still get one of these from
>Virginia hobbies for about $55.00, I'd say there was a real
>case of auction feaver here.
>Worth that much, Definitely not.

Boy, I'll say! The "new" FAI specials are assembled from original factory mint parts made in the 1950s. So the "new" engine you can buy today for $55 is an original, mint engine. It just sat around a long time before being assembled. Somebody paid *way* too much. These engines are very popular for Nostalgia Free Flight, because they are original, new, excellent runners, readily available, and reasonably priced. Oh yes, you can get glow heads for them too, also reasonable.

Unless there is some special documentation for that engine, indicating that it is a prototype or something else to make it rare, I cannot see where it would fetch that price.


Andy

"Real Engines Have Black Cylinder Fins and Red Heads"

C/L Gee Bee · Nov 08, 2004 03:19 PM

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> Considering that you can still get one of these from
>Virginia hobbies for about $55.00, I'd say there was a real
>case of auction feaver here.
>Worth that much, Definitely not.
>Dennis

Does someone have the info on "Virginia Hobby"? Website? Address? Thanks.

Mike in Atwater,
'When I fly, the plane gets nervous'

Bill Little · Nov 08, 2004 01:29 PM

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Hi Jay,
I replied before, but forgot to hit the button! hahahaha
That appears to be the FAI version. (Does VA. Hobby Sports sell the FAI version?)
If it is new or mint, it just might bring that from a collector or vintage FF guy.
Bill <><


When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

dennis · Nov 08, 2004 03:33 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Nov-08-04 AT 03:34 PM (CDT)
 
>Hi Jay,
>I replied before, but forgot to hit the button! hahahaha
>That appears to be the FAI version. (Does VA. Hobby Sports
>sell the FAI version?)
>If it is new or mint, it just might bring that from a
>collector or vintage FF guy.
>Bill <><
>
>
>When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his
>friends.
>Japanese Proverb

Yes Bill, they sell the FAI version too, also the Fox 07 all for the same price.
Dennis
http://www.virginiahobbysport.com/index.htm
Here's the link

pipemakermike · Nov 08, 2004 04:30 PM

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Virginia Hobbysport looks like a useful provider but a search of their website didn't offer me an email address. can anyone help?

Regards

Mike

Clayton · Nov 08, 2004 06:26 PM

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Looks like I left off a button with the latest release.

[email protected]

And don't tell him I left off a button, please.

Clayton Berry - forever committing random acts of coolness

pipemakermike · Nov 08, 2004 07:21 PM

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Your Button Disaster secret is safe with me

Regards

Mike

http://www.mike-nelson.co.uk

G Willie · Nov 08, 2004 08:44 PM

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The guy paid WAY too much. Also, this isn't an .049 FAI, it's a plain jane 1964 model 049.

Bill Mohrbacher

Currell · Nov 09, 2004 01:42 AM

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A few comments.

1. G Willie is absolutely correct that this is not the FAI model. The FAI does not have the flutes on the case. The engine in question is the second gen Fox .049, just as Willie states. (The FAI venturi stack may be a bit higher, but I am not certain of this; don't have an FAI at the moment).

2. $182.50 is All The Money In The World for a second gen Fox .049. Note that your Hmb & Obnt Serv bid on it when it still was at a "reasonable" level.

3. Henry Werner's Va company is a great supporter of CL. Super guy, and highest marks possible for exemplary sales and service. I don't know if Henry sells the second gen one, but it really doesn't matter.

4. Peter Chinn's Engine reviews in early '60s Model Airplane News showed about a 500 rpm advantage with the second gen one. I have about 9 first and second gen Foxes altogether, and maybe the second one indeed is a little hotter. This rpm advantage lies within the noise level (pun fully intended) of reasonable, statistical confidence levels, so it doesn't really matter. In the Musciano Proto Speed event, wt and drag of the model will overwhelm a few 100 rpms. And we are talking maybe two clicks of the needle, too. Another noise level where luck may play a part.

Another thing: the second 049s like to run backwards even worse than a Cox reed. They are very aggressively timed. The first ones are not completely innocent in this regard, either. Of course, you can use starters for NVCL Musciano Speed, but I don't like to. But you can use more head gaskets, and generally play around with it.

I love these little Foxes, but not $182.50 worth of affection. You can find them at swaps all day for about $35. Or, from the casual, just-want-to-get-rid-of-it vendor who really likes Cox Tee Dees and Norvels (and "more collectible" Atwoods, K & B Sky Furies), a lot less.

Currell