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prop buster · Dec 10, 2004 04:18 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-10-04 AT 05:04 PM (CST)
 
You may have seen my dad's (rootbeard) post on our day of flying, it was a great day to fly. We often get together to have a day in the sky. This day was different though, my dad and I talk about how he was going to teach me how to do a figure 8. I was not to sure that I could do it because I have only been doing loops for a short time. We had it all planned out, he was going to grab the handle and do one with his hand over mind, guiding me though the steps. It was running a little lean so he just let me fly it out we would try again later. Once he left the cicle I kept on flying it. I trying to make my loops wider, I thought I would get use to going invertied. Well, I went inverted, I did not think and just gave it up. Of course it went down. Then I hear the dreaded CRUNCH! That sents a chill down your spine. Luckly our good friend Mr. Kreth had some CA glue. Later on my dad pulled the samething and broke it in the same place. I think I did a better job of breaking it though . I went to fly the plane again and Dad came out, he took a knee beside me. As I was spinning around, he told me to try a few loops. After I did some loops he told me again the steps of the “8.” I did the motions with my hands just as I practiced, and I did it! Now to me the 8 is easier than the loop. Now my dad and I joke about how I joined the 8 club. We are on the same level now. We hope to achive the inverted fight next.
At the bottom is some pictures of my lastest build project, the buster.

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peabody · Dec 10, 2004 04:48 PM

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Good for you, Ryan....and what power for the Buster?

See Ya

Peabody

prop buster · Dec 10, 2004 05:02 PM

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I will be using an OS MAX .15 brand new
I got it from a good friend in New Zeland.

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rootbeard · Dec 10, 2004 05:11 PM

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I must say that he did this all by himself. Like his Wizard.
I have not touched this one other then pick it up to look at it.
And it is straight.


Paul

I am a retread, - I did C/L in my youth and did not know what I was doing other then having fun. And not much has changed.

bigseminole · Dec 10, 2004 06:04 PM

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Good show!

BIGS

" What constitutes the dignity of a craft is that it creates a fellowship, that it binds men together and fashions for them a common language. For there is but one problem - the problem of human relations."

Anthony de Saint-Exupery

Harleyman · Dec 10, 2004 06:11 PM

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That’s the best use of video games I’ve seen in a long time. Ha
That baby will have no problems in the wind with an OS Max .15, it’ll scream.
Good Job! Keep posting your progress.

Chris

EddyR · Dec 10, 2004 06:41 PM

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I realy liked your story. What is wake boarding? I saw it on your bio.
Ed

prop buster · Dec 10, 2004 11:20 PM

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Wake boarding is like surfing behind a boat. You have a rope with a handle on it attached to the back of the boat. You jump waves and some of the really good dudes can do back flips and stuff. I have a wakeboarding link out on my site. None of the wakeboarding pics are of me but i might get some out there this summer once it gets warmer.

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Bill Little · Dec 10, 2004 06:54 PM

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Keep it up, Ryan!
Ain't it great when you do a new stunt.
The more you do, the easier it will be.
Bill <><

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

Giffy · Dec 10, 2004 11:38 PM

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Flying inverted is fun,You have to mentally overcome the learned response to give it up. just keep saying down,down,down then when the critical moment comes to save the plane you'll give it down.

Nice Buster, looks like a racer. Have you thought about building a PDQ Flying Clown racer?


Giffy

Fix_it · Dec 11, 2004 06:40 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-11-04 AT 06:47 AM (CST)
 
Nice looking Buster Ryan! It is really gonna go with a new OS .15 on it. We have one we built as a trainer, it has a Cox Medallion .09 so I don't think I would want to race you, I would get dizzy watching your plane pass mine so many times!! Ours was painted with Red Rustoleum from a spray can over primer.

Keep on doing those 8's, and stretch the transition from the inside to the outside loop out longer and longer. Pretty soon you will be going 1/2 way around the circle before you do the outside loop back to normal flight. This gets you used to giving DOWN for Up when inverted, and makes inverted flight less scary.

Bill Heher
If it's broke, fix it.
If it aint broke - let me see it for a minute.

Tim McTigue · Dec 11, 2004 08:04 AM

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Ryan, welcome to the 8 club! I'm impressed by your progress - you're learning very quickly. Once you master inverted, you'll be on your way. This past summer I finally got to the point where I felt really comfortable inverted. That was when I tried an outside loop, with bad results for my Smoothie. I'm planning to build another Smoothie this winter, and a Nobler as well. I won't try any more outside loops with them, though, until I can do it with my Twister, which is almost ready for final assembly.

Nice looking Buster! You're learning some important skills with your building - keep it up.

Tim

MAAC 65703

prop buster · Dec 11, 2004 05:57 PM

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Thanks,
I like your buster Mr. Bill.


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gtrbaby · Dec 12, 2004 04:42 PM

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Looks good Ryan....keep up the good work.... and let keep me posted on your progress.

Glad you like the kit and engine.....just dont learn the pattern before me HUH??


Wynn

In the battle of airplane V ground, the ground is yet to lose.

DarrylW · Dec 13, 2004 11:30 AM

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Hi Ryan,

Some of the others may want to comment on this, but I built the Sig Shoestring a few years back and powered it with a muffled Enya .15 III. This design is very similar to the Buster. I wish I had used a TeeDee or Medallion 09 because with the Enya it needed a couple ounces of tail weight to balance. It flies, but the wing loading is high and even landings are tricky because it glides like the proverbial brick. Using a C*x 09 would have saved 4 or 5 oz.

Also - I have never tried a loop with this plane but because of the weight, limited elevator travel, and leadout setup, it seems only capable of "mild" wingovers. Although a stronger engine might help, the Buster was designed for Goodyear scale racing and you may find it is not up to figure 8's or other manouvers.

Good luck!

Darryl Wurtz
MAAC 41841

Elwyn · Dec 13, 2004 04:08 PM

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I've got a Sig Buster with a Fox 15 that will do the beginner pattern. The inside squares have pretty soft corners and if you enter the outside loops from the high spot you need to be at about 80 degrees. The overhead eights end up about four foot high at the low point but it's lots of fun.

fly123 · Dec 13, 2004 07:42 PM

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Mr. Propbuster, aka King of Eights,

What are you planning for the landing gear? Didn't see any holes yet. Have you got some hardwood in there somewhere?

I shortened the gear (moved the wheels back) and used a little thicker wire on my new Buster for racing on pavement. It still bounced a lot on my first flights. I hope it was just because I was nervous! My plane is pretty heavy--I don't think it will do more than a wingover. That's ok 'cause they disqualify you if you do a loop....

Dave
LA_Flyer

prop buster · Dec 14, 2004 04:43 PM

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I am not putting any landing gear on the buster because all the flying we do is at a soccer field on soft grass. I have had my Flite Streak Trainer for a while now, and I have found out that the landing gear make it very difficult to land on the grass. The landing gears tend to catch the grass and I would always flip. Thus causing my rudder probles. I eventually put in a ply rudder. I do not mind to much that the buster will not do stunt. I mainly build it to work on my building skills. Although my brother has the Sig shoestring, and I would not mind raceing him. Can anyone tell me the rules and guidlines of raceing, or a link to a C/L site with that information on it?


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tomB · Dec 14, 2004 05:12 PM

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Well, your first source for racing should be the AMA rulebook. You might give Lester Goldsmith a call, too. His name still appears in high places in CL Racing competitions. He used to own the best hobby shop in Memphis, maybe one of the best hobby shops anywhere - Bluff City Hobbies. He was great at CL Goodyear racing, too. I believe he sold out for early retirement several years ago, though. I don't know his number off hand, but you could do a Google search on his name and Memphis East High School. I think he's involved in their class re-unions.

About the grass - you will find that as you build larger airplanes, it won't be much of a problem anymore. 2" wheels and especially 2 1/2" wheels, on a plane that weighs about 3 lbs, will not be any problem in the grass. That's especially true with that nice, thick, flat Memphis grass.

It's nice to know that CL is alive and well in Memphis. I certainly have a lot of memories there - Lester, Herman Rieben, Billy Brimson, and Jim Lynch. Somebody probably knows what happened to Jim Lynch. I never knew him personally, but I remember many of his flights on the green grass at Audubon Park. His was one of the first and best copies of Al Rabe's Bearcat. Lester and Herman used to do some Combat demonstrations there, too. About racing - McKellar Park (on the south side) used to have a couple of fenced-in circles for Rat Racing. I watched Lester and Billy there on occasion, too, and I won a Combat contest on the grass once.

All of that was when I wasn't at the NAS Hobby Shop, or over on Austin Peay and Stage Rd. watching the pattern planes at the old Memphis RC field.

I will be there (Bartlett) in a week, but there's five different in-law families to see, and only 3 days. Take care and keep it up!

Tom B

rootbeard · Dec 14, 2004 05:59 PM

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Tom,
Glad you will get to come home around the Holiday's. Memphis always feels like home.
Be sure you get some REAL BBQ while you are in town.
No body does it like Memphis.

I remember Lester's hobby shop. Someone bought up all his stock and it sits in a old store off of Summer Ave. It is a real dump of a Hobby shop. Mostly Train's.

Merry Christmas
Paul

I am a retread, - I did C/L in my youth and did not know what I was doing other then having fun. And not much has changed.

tomB · Dec 14, 2004 06:20 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-14-04 AT 06:31 PM (CST)
 
You're right about the Barbecue!!! People in Georgia talk about barbecue - they don't even know the meaning of the word. I'm a Rendezvous dry-rib fan myself. To be honest, though, my favorite is the old Topps Bar-b-que fast food chain. There's one down on Summer Ave I used to go to for years. A dirty orange plastic cafeteria tray, a tiny bag of Lay's potato chips, and a huge flat bun with pulled pork and coleslaw. Yummm - they don't do it that way around here. They have a Corky's close to Gwinnett Place Mall in Duluth. I haven't been, but Memphis people tell me it's a fake.

Does Dave Brown still support all the train hobby shops?

Speaking of trains, I was depressed when Illinois Central was bought out by Canadian National. I grew up just a few blocks from hearing the Panama Limited and City of New Orleans go through every day. One of my best friend's dad had an auto repair shop about 50 feet away from the tracks. Seeing one of those big streamliners go through that close at 70 or 80 mph made a big impression on a little kid. Years later, the Amtrak versions came through in the dead of night looking like pickup trucks hauling a bunch of wagons.

Tom B

Kreth · Dec 14, 2004 06:59 PM

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Thought I would jump in here. Lester is still around and flys a racing event with a guy here in Collierville. I think Kenny is his name. Lester is a postal carrier still which he was when he owned Action Hobbies. He told me he could make more money leasing the buildings he had his hobby shops in than in running a hobby shop.

Jim Lynch is still around though I don't think he flys much.

I'm not a native of here, but I know some of the older modelers.

Kreth McKee