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Randy · Oct 21, 2000 12:19 AM

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Hi folks, it's your trusty wrench in the works specialist again.

I was talking to Leonard about possibly threading the board a bit differently and he suggested I post a question and let everyone respond. This is, after all, a community effort.

The board is currently set up to ben in the form of a running list with messages threaded in a number of ways. It's not at all hard to use and should perhaps just be left alone. But being the type to try to fix something that's not broken, I had a suggestion.

How about organizing messages according to catagory? Perhaps have questions or discussions related to engines or engine runs in a catagory, actual flying in another, design , finishing or whatever catagories we decide would be useful.

I thought about this as I was scrolling through just about the entire board looking for a post I vaguely remembered was about Stalker engines. I finally found it, but thought, if this were according to catagory, this would be a lot easier. Also, some people are primarily interesting in certain topics, or are experts in them. Might make it easier.

Now, this may just be changing something that doesn't really need to be changed, but I thought I'd put it out. Leonard tells me it can be done fairly easily (all things are relative, I suppose), but it depends on what the users want.

What do you think?

Randy

Larry Fulwider · Oct 21, 2000 01:02 AM

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Good thought. Sorry, but it doesn't work in the real world. I work for a company that pays me hundreds of dollars a month to manage data. I have learned from that experience.

In the real world, everything is hooked together. For a data manager, that is a right ugly mess. In our world, line size might be related to engine size, and wing area might be related to the size of the flyer. Everything is hooked together, no matter what might be your priority at the moment.

People who fly C/L are oddballs in the real world. We don't organize data the way others might. We fly! We often see connections that sane and boring people miss. That is why we love this hobby.

No, child, we don't want to organize our data. We want to fly. Everything is truly hooked to everything else.


Steve Helmick · Oct 21, 2000 12:34 PM

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I have to agree with Larry on this point, as I have seen threads develop at RCO where the thread takes a tangent and sorta changes the subject. The search engine should dig up the Stalker posts that you are looking for, Randy. The archives should be a very kewl thing for this board once it gets old enough to have archives! Maybe Leonard could post a thread at the top of the list to always try the search function on a subject before asking a question that has been thrashed to death already? On the other hand, I have been to fishing boards where if a newbie asks a question that has already been done a few times, the old guys jump on him unmercifully. We need to remember that not everybody has 10 years experience on 'puters and online. In fact, I suspect that most surfing is done by relative newcomers to the net. I know I'm cutting back. Steve

Randy · Oct 22, 2000 12:54 AM

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Steve and Larry,

Well, I've been online since the Commodore days on Quantum Link (about 1978). I've seen boards threaded a thousand ways. My thought was just to make it a bit easier to find something or to easily determine what is most recent without having to scroll though a hundred topics.

As I noted, it's fine the way it is. It was just a thought about ease of use.

Randy

LNeumann · Oct 22, 2000 02:25 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-22-00 AT 02:26 AM (EST)

Randy, if you make sure you are logged on--which you have to be if you are posting--then there will be a "new" (in yellow) icon appearing for every new thread or posting since the last time you arrived on the scene. When you are done looking at all the threads, back out of everything (the fast way to do this is to simply click on "Conferences" at the top just above the dark blue dividing line) go to the top of the forum, and click on "mark" or "mark all".

If you are still having to scroll through a hundred topics to find the latest, you have it ordered wrong. At the top of the forum is a dark blue bar in which is written " Sort Topics by..... Topic ID | Discussion Topic | Author | Last Updated Date/Time | Views | Rating "

However you click on this will be the way the board will be ordered for you until the next time you click on this and change the order. You can have the topics sorted by "topic", by "author", by "views" (the most viewed would come up on top), by "rating" (the highest rated threads in the viewer's opinion--you are clicking on the rating at the very bottom of each thread, aren't you?) or, the most common, by "date/time". If you have the threads ordered by "date/time", then the most recent will always be on top and you don't have to scroll through the hundred postings to find the most recent.

This program has the most options and versatility of any that I was able to find, but it can get a bit confusing to some until you see and learn all that is available.

Click on the "helps" section at the top to learn a few of the features. I plan to expand that a bit in the near future since there are some things that aren't explained that probably need to be.

Leonard Neumann

Larry Fulwider · Oct 22, 2000 07:49 AM

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The most logical "default" organization for posts is by the date of the most recent response. Leonard has it that way. I only remember one other BB site built this way.
For example, the "dyeing silkspan" thread was originally posted 10/9, but the folks here are not quite done with it yet. It is in second place as of this morning because of recent responses. To me, letting old posts that are still drawing a lot of attention sink to the bottom is less useful than the way this guy is set up. The default order is a sound one. I didn't know of the other options, but they make sense also. I will use the default sort unless I am looking for something special.

LF

LNeumann · Oct 22, 2000 01:11 PM

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I let this one run a little just to see where it would go. Setting up additional categories would be no problem with this software. In fact, it is made for multiple forums as on RC Online. No problem. All I have to do is go into my administration program, type in a couple of sentences, and they are up. One thing I like about this program is the lack of maintenance. Everything is pretty much automatic. It generates and e-mails you your password automatically. It will tell you your password, if you forget it, automatically. It will send you an e-mail notifying you of a new posting if you have subscribed to a thread--all automatically. It even archives the messages automatically when the number reaches the limit I have set.

So we can do a lot of things with it, including establishing additional categories. But I purposely left it with one general category feeling this would work best, until and unless there was too much traffic in one area. Iskander's board seems to have worked well as one category, and even RC Online only has one category for CL stuff (unless you include the engine shop as a separate category. You very seldom see anything there that is CL related, however.) Of course there is, also the "Tips 'N Techniques" section (see, I am coming up with additional categories, already) but we CL types seem to just include this all in one general category, anyway.

At the moment it is set up as one. If, however, anyone has suggestions for additional categories that you feel would benefit the system, feel free to pop up and say so. Things are fluid. We can change if changes are warranted. I want to set this up so it will work the best for every body.

Leonard Neumann

faif2d · Oct 22, 2000 01:35 PM

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I like it just fine the way it is. I think you are right that a single place is best. that way you get more opinions.

geoffgg · Oct 23, 2000 05:38 AM

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I'm happy with the way things are and I especially like the 'new' flag. It's a pity that feature is not happening on RCO.

It ain't broke, don't try to fix it. Cheers, Geoff

Randy · Oct 23, 2000 01:49 PM

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Well, that sure answered that. I think the board stays the way it is.

Sure generated some thoughts, anyway.

I love this place. <VBG>

Randy