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Planebrain · May 23, 2002 08:37 AM

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Can anyone name a model that Jack Sheeks published that was not an I-beamer? I know of one, which was named after a rodent. It was a kit-bash, too. -- Iain Neillands

Jim P · May 23, 2002 09:57 AM

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Yep-Me 109. Flying models 4/70. I just finished construction last week. Conventional C tube wing, 52", about 530-540 squares. Very straigtforward construction. Two initial test flights have been done with no real solid conclusions as yet. It came in heavier than I had hoped at 48 oz with FP 40, 1.5 oz of tailweight and needs more. The porkyness is my fault due to a poorly thought out finishing method. I'll post pics when developed if I ever figure out how on this forum.

BTW-I visited with Jack about this model at the VSC and he informed me that the model was actually built and flown at least two years prior to publication. This based on his memory of digging back through his models when the publisher asked for a design as well as the photo of his son who was pictured in the article holding the model. It would appear that this documentation makes it classic legal. Wonder how many other 1970, 1971 etc. published designs are actually pre 1970?

JMS · May 23, 2002 10:04 AM

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Jack Sheeks designed a plane called the "Scottsman", sometime in the late 60s, I believe. It was not an I-beam wing. It was a jet style design, with trike gear, a long fuselage, and swept wing. If I can remember, the hinge line of the flaps and elevator were also swept rearward.

I built one, and it flew quite well. Never flew it in any competition, just sport flying. I thought of building another, since it did fly as well as anything else I had built during that time, and now it would probably be classic legal.

LNeumann · May 23, 2002 02:28 PM

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Most of the plans I have seen of Jack's designs are not I-beam construction as I recall. There may have been a couple, but that was not his norm.

Now, what was the rodent plane that you are referring to?

Leonard Neumann

The Kiwi · May 23, 2002 03:41 PM

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>Most of the plans I have seen of Jack's designs are
>not I-beam construction as I recall. There may have
>been a couple, but that was not his norm.
>
Actually, during the period in which Jack was most prolific, such that he often had as many as three designs a year in Flying Models Magazine, a majority of those were I-Beamers.

>Now, what was the rodent plane that you are referring to?
>
I don't know, but he kit-bashed a Banshee into something else without turning it into an I-Beamer . .


Kiwi

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rmb6868 · May 23, 2002 04:56 PM

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>Most of the plans I have
>seen of Jack's designs are
>not I-beam construction as I
>recall. There may have
>been a couple, but that
>was not his norm.
>
>Now, what was the rodent plane
>that you are referring to?


Weird, most of the plane's I've seen are I-beam constuction. So far I think I have about 10 articles and only two were not I-beam, I would have to look. I only kept the semi-scale stunt articles, except for Miss Jill. The rodent plane was the Squirrel (sp?) using a wing fom a Chipmunk. If I remember the article correctly, he had just wiped out the Bishop and needed a quickly built replacement. (at the the Jack Sheeks and quickly built sot of seemed to be saying the same thing)
His P-26 peashooter showed full ribs, but one of the pics showed an "experimental" rib design. The back half looked like I-beam ribs (seperate top and bottom halves) and the front was covered by the leading edge sheeting. I don't have a clue as to what was under there.
Later,
Ron

faif2d · May 23, 2002 06:10 PM

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I did the plans ink job on a Corsair profile for Model Builder in 74. I believe that a full fuse version was published later in FM.

I always wondered why I liked to paint with dope, now I can't remember

Richard · May 23, 2002 06:28 PM

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I got FM for two years at one point (can't remember the years and they aren't readily accessible to check), saw a lot of Jack Sheeks plans and don't recall any I-beem ships - they were all standard C tubes. Perhaps he went trough phases.

Cheers
Richard

denlip · May 23, 2002 08:07 PM

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LAST EDITED ON May-24-02 AT 07:13 AM (CST)

I know that he used foam also his Bishop and AT-9 utilized them.
He probably outside of Del Gatto was the most prolific gesigner that I was aware of at that time. Probably the man that I know that has the most designs published anywhere is Nick Ziroli, but he covered all spectrums of the hobby
Per an answer to the other post I believe that Ziroli has had over 60 models presented in a 40 plus year career. of course then you have Henry struck and Don Magovern and a whole bunch of talented designers that I have no idea of what their total output was. Theres a job for some historian to cataloge all the designers plans and articles, a daunting project to be sure.

Jim T. · May 23, 2002 08:09 PM

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there was a comment somewhere about "I-beamer of the month". His classic era designs were almost all I-beamers as I recall from my (mislaid in the move) Classic Era Plans book. I dropped out of the hobby for about 10 years in 1961 so I'm not real familair with that time period.

Jim

Ty M. · May 24, 2002 12:13 AM

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Don't forget Musciano and Scarinzi. They put out a lot of plans too.
Jack put out a lot of I beamers, a few foamies and some C and D tubers. I can dig up a list of his if any one cares.

planebrain · May 24, 2002 01:07 PM

Answer to which rodent?#11 source
Working with his son, Jack kit-bashed a Jim Van Loo, Sig Chipmunk into the Squirrel, which was published in Flying Models
04/76. -- Iain

Trostle · May 25, 2002 01:46 AM

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Here is a list that I have been able to put together of Jack Sheek's published designs. If I have missed any, my apology to Jack.

Conventional

Bewitched,---FM Jul 72 D-Tube Twin boom, trike gear
Bishop,----- FM Sep 74 Sheeted wing
Care,------ FM Apr 78 Foam wing
Freedom 45,--- FM May 86 D-Tube, swept wing trike gear
Knight,---- FM Jun 69 I-Beam
LaDonna,--- FM Feb 64 I-Beam, twin boom, trike gear
Old Glory,--FM Feb 71 I-Beam
Panic,----- FM Apr 75 Foam wing or D-tube
Magnum,--- FM Mar 87 ??
Miss Jill,--FM Dec 75 I-Beam, profile
Moondust,---MB Dec 74 Sheeted wing, trike
Scottsman,--FM Feb 69 D-Tube, slight sweep, trike gear
Sheik,----- FM Jun 65 I-Beam, inverted gull wing, trike gear
Squirrell,---FM Apr 76 D-tube, based on SIG Chipmonk
Stunt Liner,----FM Oct 65 I-Beam, swept wing
Swinger,----FM Jan 67 ?
Torino,-----FM Jan 69 I-Beam, swept wing, twin boom

SEMI-SCALE

AT-9 Jeep,----FM Aug 76 Foam wing, twin engine
Chipmonk,-----FM Aug 78 ?
Stagger Wing,--- FM Jun 64 I-Beam, Bipe
F-4U,--------FM Nov 78 I-Beam, inverted gull wing
F-4U,--------MB Mar 73 Sheeted wing, profiel fuselage
Mosquito,----MA Aug 81 Sheeted wing, twin engine
Demon,------ FM Aug 66 I-Beam, swept wing, trike gear
F-5F Skyrocket,----FM AUIg/Sep 64 D-Tube, twin engine
Flybaby,-----FM Oct 72 I-Beam
Fw-190,------FM Jan 68 I-Beam
Heinkel 100,--- MA Jan 80 D-Tube
Hurricane,---FM Aug 73 D-tube
Magister,--- FM Aug 71 D-Tube, V-Tail, trike gear
Me-109G,---- FM May 77 I-Beam
Me-109,----- FM Apr 70 D-Tube
Me-262,----- FM Mar 67 I-Bem, Swept wing, trike gear
P-26,------ FM Mar 74 D-Tube
Ryan SC---- FM Jul 67 Conventional wing
Seafang,----FM Apr 79 Foam wing
Sea Vixen,-- FM Apr 66 D-Tube, Twin boom, trike gear
Spitfire,--- FM Sep 68 I-Beam
Stuka,------ FM Jul 70 Sheeted wing, inverted gull
Stuka,------ FM Aug 63 I-Beam

FM = Flying Models
MB = Model Builder
MA = Model Aviation

Keith

Bill Sawyer · May 25, 2002 07:26 AM

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Ponds plans list these also:

Beechcraft Stunter FM 6 - 64 46"
P51B Mustang FM 8 - 70 48"

Trostle · May 25, 2002 04:37 PM

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LAST EDITED ON May-26-02 AT 01:41 AM (CST)

LAST EDITED ON May-26-02 AT 01:37 AM (CST)

>Ponds plans list these also:
>
>Beechcraft Stunter
>FM 6 - 64
> 46"
>P51B Mustang
>
> FM 8 - 70
> 48"

The Staggerwing listed above is the Beechcraft Stunter. I should have listed it as the Beechcraft Staggerwing.

There was a P-51B that was published under Jim Vornholt's name in Flying Models, February 1975. The P-51B that was published in the August 1970 issue of Flying Models was by Joe Berry. I am not aware of any P-51 semiscale stunt design that has been published by Jack.

Keith