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Scott · May 26, 2002 11:20 PM

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The Northwest regionals in Albany Oregon were a big hit. Lots of cool planes, great weather, and great PEOPLE. Stunt was a huge success. 14 experts, same in advanced. Lots of good flying. Mr. Walker and Mr. Fitz went toe to toe…same o same o. HOWEVER, Second and Third had some heavy hitters. Chris Cox, Howard Rush, Brett Buck, Bruce Perry, Jack Pitcher, Pat Johnson all top twenty flyers. Howard put up the best flight of his young stunt life. So too everyone that was their SUPER JOB! C-YA Next year.

Scott (did OK 2) Riese

Howard Rush · May 27, 2002 12:19 AM

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LAST EDITED ON May-27-02 AT 00:23 AM (CST)

Many thanks to all those who put on this contest.

Here are some of the stunters:
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Randy Powell debuted his new elliptical-wing plane. It looks even cooler flying than it does on the ground:
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Randy · May 27, 2002 11:54 AM

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Yea, hope I can get it to fly better than it did. Serious trimming ahead.

Randy

GSO · May 27, 2002 02:01 PM

RE: NW STUNT Scott did OK 2 Riese#3 source
Scott,

Why don`t you tell us who won.1st though 5th.Don`t keep it a secret OK.

Gordie

PS.Inquiring minds needs to know.Or would like to know.Thanks

Big Country Joe · May 27, 2002 05:53 PM

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Scott, Great sharing some chuckles with you and all. Glad I managed to keep my Ukey out of the picture. Just call me "Back Row Joe.
A note to those that may feel they are not qualified to enter a meet with this sort of participation (world class flyers and all that) DO IT! THESE GUYS ARE JUST FOLKS LIKE YOURSELF! You will be treated well, as well as having some fun!
I was thrilled to score nearly double my age. Met some great people, got some wonderfull advise and generally had a good time. You could too.

Brett Buck · May 27, 2002 07:48 PM

RE: NW STUNT Scott did OK 2 Riese#5 source
>Scott,
>
> Why don`t you tell us
>who won.1st though 5th.Don`t keep
>it a secret OK.
>
Expert

1 P. Walker, P-51D "Miss America" Saito 56
2 D Fitzgerald, Trivial Pursuit "Star Gazer", PA61
3 Chris Cox, Saturn, OS40VF
4 Howard Rush, Impact, OS40VF
5 Brett Buck, Infinity, PA61

Judges: Bob Parker, Steve Helmick

Advanced

1 Bruce Hunt, Shark 45, ST60
2??
3 Scott Urabe, KA10, Saito 56

Judges: Bill Fitzgerald, John Leidle

Int, beg, ??

OTS
1 David Fitzgerald, Ringmaster, Veco 19bb
2 Don McClave, Chief, Fox 35
3 *Emil Kovak, ??{some super-light flapless airplane}, ??

*this was a remarkable flight! Corners were unbelievable, best climb/dive I've ever seen by a long shot!
Judges: Chris Cox, Brett Buck

Classic:
?????

Concours de'Elegance

Jim "Uncle Jimby"/"VSC 12 Best Buns"/"20 Point Ringmaster" Aron, Boogaloo 3, Saito 56


I can update this if someone knows more about it, just send me the results and I'll edit them in.
********

This was a fun contest, the weather was uncanny for Northwest Oregon for this time of year, IOW, is wasn't 50 degrees and raining the whole time. Turnout seemed a little low compared to the best year at Roseburg, but reasonable.


Brett

Randy · May 27, 2002 09:23 PM

RE: NW STUNT Scott did OK 2 Riese#6 source
LAST EDITED ON May-27-02 AT 09:24 PM (CST)

Here's another shot of the whole field.

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Well, almost, anyway. I cut off Bruce's wing. I have a lot more if anyone is interested.

Randy

Howard Rush · May 28, 2002 12:16 AM

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Here is Uncle Jimby's aforementioned Boogaloo:
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Nils · May 28, 2002 08:59 AM

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LAST EDITED ON May-28-02 AT 09:00 AM (CST)

Beginner-

1st: Bob Smiley- 238.5
2nd: Montana Marlatt- 136 (Brodak Tomahawk/Veco.19
3rd: Joe Just- 98 (Ukey 15)

Intermediate- (one entry)

Mike Haverly- 367.5 (Fancy Pants/Fox.35)

Classic-

1st: Don McClave- 532.5
2nd: Nils Norling- 503 (Shark 45/ST.60)
3rd: Pete Peterson- 500.5 (VUM-18)(I'm not positive on this one, but I'm pretty sure it was Pete with 500.5)

Advanced-

1st: Bruce Hunt- 482.5 (Shark 45/ST.60)
2nd: Nils Norling- 476.5 (Shark 45/ST.60)
3rd: Scott Urabe- 476.5 (beautiful airplane but I don't rememberr what it was, sorry)

2nd & 3rd in Advanced were decided by the high scores in the second round

Terrific contest!

Nils

Steve Helmick · May 28, 2002 11:05 PM

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LAST EDITED ON May-29-02 AT 10:53 PM (CST)

Scott Urabe's model was a Dixon KA-10 with a Saito .56. The 4S models appear to be very slow. The sound is very deceptive, they're not that slow. Emil Kovak's OTS 3rd place model (mentioned by Brett) is a Humongus, with no cockpit or headrest.

It was a fun contest, but Oy, were my feet sore Sunday night! The continually varying wind directions really hurt some flights. Judging D-Bat (Diesel Combat, British style) Friday was just as much fun as judging Expert PA, and didn't take nearly as much running around the circle! Wasn't that Sunshade/Dust Devil thing exciting after the contest? Jack Pitcher deserves a lot of credit for seeing how important it was to tackle that runaway sunshade with concrete block attached, bum ankle and all. Steve

dirtydan · May 29, 2002 08:12 PM

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This is nuts. But I'll do it anyway...

2002 NW Regionals Results:

OTS:
David Fitzgerald, 294.75
Don McClave, 285.75
Emil Kovac, 280.25
Jim Aron, 279.75
Bob Emmett, 272.25
Keith Varley, 271.50
Gerald Schamp, 258.00
Roy DeCamara, 254.50
Mike Conner, 249.50
Dave Baxter, 216.50
Mike Haverly, 175.75
Burt Brokaw, DNF
JUDGES: Brett Buck, Chris Cox

CLASSIC:
Don McClave, 532.5
Nils Norling, 503.0
Pete Peterson, 500.5
Bruce Hunt, 496.5
Keith Varley, 486.5
Roy DeCamara, 481.0
Jim Aron, 453.5
Bob Parker, 444.0
Mike Haverly, 435.0
JUDGES: John Leidel, Bill Fitzgerald

BEGINNER PA:
Bob Smiley, 238.5
Montana Marlett, 136.0
Joe Just, 98.0
JUDGES: Alice Cotton-Royer, Mike Conner

INTERMEDIATE PA:
Mike Haverly, 376.5
JUDGES: Alice Cotton-Royer, Mike Conner

ADVANCED PA:
Bruce Hunt, 482.5
Nils Norling, 476.5
Scott Urabe, 476.5
Dave Royer, 475.5
Pete Peterson, 475.0
Keith Varley, 469.0
Burt Brokaw, 461.0
Mike Conner, 455.0
Roy DeCamara, 453.0
Leo Mehl, 448.0
Mark Micheli, 443.0
JUDGES: John Leidel, Bill Fitzgerald

EXPERT PA:
Paul Walker, 573.0
David Fitzgerald, 567.5
Chris Cox, 555.5
Howard Rush, 553.5
Brett Buck, 551.5
Bruce Perry, 546.5
Scott Riese, 533.0
Jack Pitcher, 526.0
Jim Aron, 517.5
Pat Johnston, 512.0
Igor Panchenko, 503.0
Alice Cotton-Royer, 502.0
Lee Uberbacher, 499.0
Randy Powell, 481.0
Gerald Schamp, 475.0
JUDGES: Bob Parker, Steve Helmick

CONCOURS: Jim Aron and his Boogaloo

STUNT, OVERALL: David Fitzgerald. First OTS, second, Expert PA.

TRIPLE-UP: (Unofficial and only for those silly enough, enthusiastic enough,to fly all three Stunt events. Ranking by total for OTS, Classic and PA.) Jim Aron, 1250.75; Keith Varley, 1227.0; Roy DeCamara, 1188.50; Mike Haverly, 987.25. You're all nuts, total whack jobs.

TROPHY SPONSORS:
Concours, Dave and Alice Gardner.
Overall: Dave and Alice Gardner.
All PA classes: Mark and Kathy Conner.
OTS & Classic: Not known at this time. Apologies.

Brief comments: Excellent administration from Dave and Alice Gardner. What appeared to be consistent and accurate judging. Hope y'all saved your score sheets, lots of reliable feedback available there.

It had to have been slightly disheartening for David and Brett to make the drive north, only to find Walker's Miss America P-51 gracing the front of each and every 2002 NW Regionals T-shirt, these being sold by the case, worn by a great many.

It was encouraging to see David bounce a landing in the first round. Okay, wrong wording. But it was kinda nice knowing the sort of mistakes I make can also be made by one of the very best.

Unfortunate second-round draw meant PW could leave his model in the van. I am in favor of letting Dave G. randomly draw first round, set the board for maximum entertainment potential in second round...

Danny Dirt

Scott · May 30, 2002 12:13 AM

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It was encouraging to see David bounce a landing in the first round. Okay, wrong wording. But it was kinda nice knowing the sort of mistakes I make can also be made by one of the very best.


He still got a 32!!!!!lol

Scott(did ok 2) riese

Good Job to all

Nils · May 30, 2002 08:46 AM

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Classic was sponsored by Jerry Eichten.

Nils

Darwin · May 30, 2002 09:08 AM

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>This is nuts.

Sho' is. Who I feel sorry for is the poor sap who may have won Advanced at the last contest and got kicked upstairs to compete with this insanely excellent pack of experts.---Mark

Scott · May 30, 2002 10:36 AM

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>>This is nuts.
>
>Sho' is. Who I feel
>sorry for is the poor
>sap who may have won
>Advanced at the last contest
>and got kicked upstairs to
>compete with this insanely excellent
>pack of experts.---Mark


That was Alice cotton-royer. She flew very well for not putting any time in this year. I had only six flights on my new plane so I'm very pleased. It's Advanced that is fun to watch. All these guy's fights it out.

Scott(need handle time)Riese

DMoon · May 30, 2002 11:07 AM

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I sure would like to come to this contest. Is it the same time every year? Memorial day? This just looks like to much fun. Albany Oregon? Is that a good town that I could try talk my wife into a little vacation time up there next year? I guess that would be quite a haul from Dallas TX huh? My brother and I have been wanting to make this for some time now. Where was Ted?(working I suppose) I guess I should really get going on winning that lottery. There are so many contests all over that I really want to attend.

KOI
BRODAK
NWRegionals
NATS
TEAM TRIALS
FCM in Muncie(I think)

DMoon

Bottomzup · May 30, 2002 11:46 AM

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Scott,

Alice moved up to Expert voluntarily at last year's Regionals. John Miller won Advanced last year and was conspicuously absent this year.

Hey John,

You missed a good one! Stunt Heaven "runway" air and beautiful weather. The Sharks were out in force and there was definitely "blood in the water." Advanced is getting intense!

Ted,

You were greatly missed. Hope all is well with family.


Dave(also ran)Royer

Randy · May 30, 2002 01:36 PM

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And I'd like to note that Dave (Terror of the Skies) Royer flew one of the best patterns I've seen him fly in years in very difficult air. Way to go, Dave!

Randy

PS-New tailplane is just about done. We'll see what we get this weekend. Hey, a 6oz lighter plane, at least.

godzilla · May 30, 2002 01:45 PM

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Holy poop, what a contest…

I was thinking what would it look like if all the flyers in our area showed up for one contest. Might be interesting.

In no particular order:

1. Bobby “The Bear” Gieske
2. Doug (E) Moon
3. Steve Moon
4. Mike Scott
5. Al Rabe
6. Dee Rice
7. Bill Rutherford
8. Richard Oliver
9. Bill Wilson
10. Frank McMillan
11. Frank Williams
12. Steve Moune’ (spelling)
13. Donny Millanson
14. Rick Ashford
15. Tom Farmer
16. Larry Oakley
17. Phil Nichols
18. Darrell Gornto

That’s just expert, and just off the top of my head.

Nils · May 30, 2002 01:54 PM

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LAST EDITED ON May-30-02 AT 06:36 PM (CST)

John Miller's van engine blew itself up just before he was due to leave, that is the reason he didn't make it this year. It had nothing to do with the fact that he won Advanced last year.

Nils

peabody · May 30, 2002 02:25 PM

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Didn't we export Tom Neibuhr to you, too?

See Ya

Peabody

peabody · May 30, 2002 02:25 PM

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Didn't we export Tom Neibuhr to you, too?

See Ya

Peabody

DMoon · May 30, 2002 02:29 PM

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yep, and Johnny D'Ottavio too.

DMoon

Bottomzup · May 30, 2002 02:31 PM

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Nils,

Didn't mean to imply anything in regards to John's winning advanced, only wanted to clear up that Alice wasn't booted into Expert because she had.

Dave

John Miller · May 30, 2002 04:26 PM

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>Nils,
>
>Didn't mean to imply anything in
>regards to John's winning advanced,
>only wanted to clear up
>that Alice wasn't booted into
>Expert because she had.
>
>Dave

Hey Dave and a special Hi to Alice, who volunterily moved up to Expert laast year as she wanted the challenge, much to my relief. She's a tough competitor and won't give an inch when going nose to nose. I see that some of this is rubbing off on Dave, (good times) Royer.

Congrats Dave on what sounds like a super flight.

Actually, Advanced is every bit as tough as Expert at the NW Regionals. There are some great pilots who try and show up each year. I surely missed not making it this year.

My Vans' engine didn't blow up, but something similar. The darned thermostat stuck, overheated the engine, it actually killed the engine while I was trying to limp into the shop. After we fixed it, and luckily the engine seems fine, we found that it cooked the tranny to the point that it's going to have to be re-built. I think it would have been less expensive to replace the stupid engine.

I hope to have it finished and back on the road soon so I can make a few contests this year.

I really wanted to be there.

John

Nils · May 30, 2002 06:46 PM

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Dave & John,

I was on my way back to work from lunch (late) & in my haste I left something out of that last post, I just went back & fixed it.

I'm sorry it came out wrong the first time,

Nils

dirtydan · May 30, 2002 07:15 PM

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LAST EDITED ON May-30-02 AT 07:32 PM (CST)

Darwin,

Excuse me, but we have no saps in Advanced or Expert. As has been pointed out to you, our newest Expert is one Alice Cotton-Royer. Alice was not kicked into Expert, it was her choice to move up, and if so inclined she will explain her decision. (I know already, just don't want to blab about my favorite CSF, Chick Stunt Flier.)

There are no complaints, no problems, none!, in this area when it comes to flying against the best.

Danny Dirt

Bottomzup · May 30, 2002 07:32 PM

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Hi guys, I'm using my husband, Dave's, login to get in a few words since some of you have been talking about me.I think my ears were ringing so I got on line.( - :

Everyone at the NW Regionals contest flew wonderfully. It was a great contest.

I especially liked the heavenly air we had every single afternoon - it made all the airplanes so very happy which, of course, made the pilots all so very happy.

Missed you John Miller. I know you wanted to be there. Hope to see you at another contest.

Now, to speak for myself: I love flying with the most excellent world champion Expert flyers. I may never win, but I don't care. The Expert world class flyers I get to fly with are a total inspiration to me. They call on me to push for excellence and teach me how to set realistic attainable goals.

Bottomzup · May 30, 2002 07:50 PM

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Alice here again on Dave's login responding. Hey Dan, thanks for your words of support. You're a very cool guy ( - :

Darwin · May 31, 2002 08:40 AM

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>>Excuse me, but we have no
>saps in Advanced or Expert.
>As has been pointed out
>to you, our newest Expert
>is one Alice Cotton-Royer. Alice
>was not kicked into Expert,
>it was her choice to
>move up, and if so
>inclined she will explain her
>decision.
>Danny Dirt

Pernt taken. Kudos to the redoubtable Ms. Alice. Perhaps I should leave the smart-aleck remarks to the professional scriveners among us. You know who you are.
Mark

Bottomzup · May 31, 2002 09:44 AM

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Thanks for the encouragement. 6 ounces lighter will definitely make a difference! Gorgeous airplane that looks as great in the air as it does on the ground.

Dave

Scott · May 31, 2002 11:05 AM

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Guess I should say SORRY to alice. "Kicked up" to the higher food chain was her idea. so to alice and the rest of us bottom feeders.... sorry.

Scott(not a ling cod)Riese

dirtydan · Jun 01, 2002 07:47 PM

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Alice Cotton-Royer,

I love you, we all love you. But, my dear, you need be advised that I am doing all I can to reduce membership levels in PAMPA, fill Stunt News with vile language, bring ruination upon those who have either a personal or financial investment in Saito engines, to in general destroy Stunt as we know it.

So, please, no more declarations like the one seen in your most recent posting. Let's just continue to keep our relationship private, away from Dave, and in the back of my van...


catdaddy,

I don't believe there are any more 2002 NW Regionals T-shirts to be had.

Danny Dirt

wally_booth · Jun 08, 2002 01:09 AM

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>I was thinking what would it
>look like if all the
>flyers in our area showed
>up for one contest.
>Might be interesting.

>In no particular order:
>
>1. Bobby “The Bear” Gieske
>2. Doug (E) Moon
>3. Steve Moon
>4. Mike Scott
>5. Al Rabe
>6. Dee Rice
>7. Bill Rutherford
>8. Richard Oliver
>9. Bill Wilson
>10. Frank McMillan
>11. Frank Williams
>12. Steve Moune’ (spelling)
>13. Donny Millanson
>14. Rick Ashford
>15. Tom Farmer
>16. Larry Oakley
>17. Phil Nichols
>18. Darrell Gornto
>
>That’s just expert, and just off
>the top of my head.
>

That's a decent list, or is it?

Three prominate flyers, and some local talent!!!!

Try coming to Clovis, California for the Golden State Stunt Championships. Now, there is some competition.

Past WORLD Champ and Nats winner
Paul Walker

Past Open National Champs:
Ted Fancher
Dave Fitzgerald
Bart Klapinski
Keith Trostle
Bob Whitely

Past Sr. National Champ
Rich Loomis

Top 20 Qualifiers
Jim Armour
Bill Biles
Brett Buck
Gordon Delany
Kirk Mullinnex
Howard Rush

Other prominant flyers
Phil Granderson
Don Hutchinson (he lives in Texas now, but he still shows up)
Walt Pyron
Jerry Silver
The late Ed Southwick

And these are JUST the Reknowned Expert flyers that show "EVERY" year.

Now, about the local expert flyers,----------need I say more?

I can name half dozen more that no longer fly expert stunt, but still fly. Also some good up and coming talent.

(Al; please don't knock me. I am aware of yours, Bobs, and Franks achievements. But, who are the rest of these people?)

We just have so many more in California!!!!!

Wally

Howard Rush · Jun 08, 2002 01:44 AM

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The Clovis contest is a humdinger. We look forward to seeing you in October.

scott · Jun 08, 2002 09:35 AM

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We just have so many more in California!!!!!

Wally!!!!But most are fake! just ask Mrs.(VIP)Anderson

Scott(not the beav)Riese

wally_booth · Jun 08, 2002 09:40 AM

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SORRY!!!!!

I should have said the west coast.

Wally

JimPollock · Jun 10, 2002 07:46 AM

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Wally,

Yup the Golden State Champs are pretty much the cream of the crop as far as Expert contestants go, but only three prominent names from the south central? I counted six myself. That would include five time Nats champion and two time world champion Bob Gieseke, two time Nats champion Al Rabe, PAMPA President and perinial top 20 qualifier Frank McMillan, perinial top 20 qualifier Frank Williams, many times 2nd place at the Nats Bill Rutherford, and Legendary competitor flyer Dee Rice. And as for the local talent, if you don't know who Richard Oliver is now, you will after the 2002 Nats. Oh and since you included Doug in your post Wally, I guess that makes this list seven instead of the six I counted.

Jim Pollock

DMoon · Jun 10, 2002 08:44 AM

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>
>(Al; please don't knock me. I
>am aware of yours, Bobs,
>and Franks achievements. But, who
>are the rest of these
>people?)
>
>We just have so many more
>in California!!!!!
>
>Wally

Yes you do have more in CA for sure there is no doubt about it. You also have a high regard for those you see fly often. However since I live in Dallas TX which is quite a drive from SoCal. there are only a hand full on your big list that make me think wow just as it did when you read Brad's list. I have heard some names but never seen them fly and probably wont get to see them. That is the part I hate. I wish I could come see your big giant pool of talent and see how I stand up against them. As for now I will see I fare against those from your area who decide to make the big haul out to Muncie.

Jim,

Mike Scott is on that list and he is the 2000 Nats Adv Champ. A big accomplishment for sure. I been at it since 96 and couldn't pull it off. One more thing that blows me away about Bob G. He has one the worlds one time. But he told me that he is pretty sure he was on 8 world teams he wasnt sure of the number but he said he was pretty sure it was 8! That is alot of times to make the team. That is along to be at the top of the heap. He was also asked to warm up the judges one year. AMAZING!!!!

That is one thing that is so Impressive about the current crop at the Top. They have been there along time. They hone their skills and then stay there, even if they decide to do it with 4 enging bombers!!!!!!!! WOW!!! Very impressive how these guys just keep doing it over and over. It makes it that much more tough for the up and comers to get in there. It means there is going to have to be that much more work.

DMoon

JimPollock · Jun 10, 2002 01:21 PM

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Doug,

I was going by some text that had not been verified for historical accuracy. It quite likely was once, but you know, when you read things you like to take the most favorable conclusions. Someone from the U.S. has won twice, was it Billy? He sure has been on just about every team since the early 1970's!
Of course the point I was making to Wally was that there is plenty of good talent for flying models in every area of the country. If you want to count the retired champions in the W/C's and the Nats, I don't think any other place can hold a candle to Florida. Like Al Rabe told you, it takes a huge amount of obsession to get to the top of the heap in C/L aerobatics. I finally figured out that I don't have the dedicated time, nor the required backing from the wife needed to pursue that kind of obsession. I fly some, take what I get and that's as good as it gets for me.

Jim Pollock