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LAST EDITED ON Jun-17-02 AT 07:35 PM (CST)

WOLF (Western Oregon Control Line Flyers) Sixth Annual Summer Meet. Bill Riegel Model Airpark, Salem Airport, Salem, Oregon.

Saturday: 9:30 - 12:00: Quickie Rat, NW Clown Race, NW Sport Race; 12:00 - 3:00: CLASSIC STUNT; 3:00: P-40 STUNT. No BOM, no Pretty Points, profile model, nothing larger than a 40 for power, no restrictions I can see as to who can enter, possibly even multiple pilots on same model. Well, PW most definitely cannot enter, nor can he borrow my Firecat.)

Sunday: 9:30 - closing: 80-mph Combat, quite the popular Combat event in the NW at this time; 9:00 - closing: PRECISION AEROBATICS, all PAMPA skill-level classes.

Always an excellent contest, hosted by people who really know their way around CL contests and CL people. Four stars.

Danny Dirt

P.S. Many thanks to the critics for pointing out that I foolishly forgot to include the dates of August 24th, 25th, the year of 2002.

Hi Dan.
well I hope you get some run time on that plasma unit in a fox,then you will see you have a wolf in sheeps clothing
dan I hope you get the time,I want you impressed.
sorta thought this message fitted,
God bless us all,till later.

There is also a grass field. Sometimes REAL planes fly by. I'll be parked next to DAN.

Scott(I'll bring my firecat too) Riese

Dan,

That's great. The times are good but what is the date of the contest?

Yeah, I was wondering if it was every Saturday and Sunday during the summer. Turns out it's only on August 24 & 25. Steve

>WOLF (Western Oregon Control Line Flyers)
>Sixth Annual Summer Meet. Bill
>Riegel Model Airpark, Salem Airport,
>Salem, Oregon.
>
>Saturday: 9:30 - 12:00: Quickie Rat,
>NW Clown Race

Are you the "Ring Leader" Dan????

, NW Sport
>Race; 12:00 - 3:00: CLASSIC
>STUNT; 3:00: P-40 STUNT. No
>BOM, no Pretty Points, profile
>model, nothing larger than a
>40 for power, no restrictions
>I can see as to
>who can enter, possibly even
>multiple pilots on same model.
>Well, PW most definitely cannot
>enter, nor can he borrow
>my Firecat.)

No need to borrow a Firecat Dan.....I already have a "profile" powered by a 0.32....Wing area ~1000 in^2....Wt. 42 ounces.
Ask Parker how it does UPWIND patterns!!

I guess we'll have to see you there Dan!

>
>Sunday: 9:30 - closing: 80-mph Combat,
>quite the popular Combat event
>in the NW at this
>time; 9:00 - closing: PRECISION
>AEROBATICS, all PAMPA skill-level classes.
>
>
>Always an excellent contest, hosted by
>people who really know their
>way around CL contests and
>CL people. Four stars.

Five stars if you actually tell us the "REAL" dates!!!
>
>Danny Dirt

But the real question is: Will Danny Dirt actually be flying in this contest? Will this be his first contest this season, or will he be busy penning a new article for our right coast PAMPA friends?

Time will tell......

We need to get JT's regs on P.40 (DG's too!). Some versions of the rules apparently ban tuned pipes...so I have to ask if Mac's muffler's are included in this ban, as they are really pipes. Some also say that the engine displacement is .40 cu.in., but unless it states in the contest info that 4S engines do NOT get the 160% displacement that AMA regs allow, announced ahead of time (30 days?), in print, then it appears to me that .64 4S engines are allowed. I'll see if I can get DG and JT to agree and comment on these issues, maybe in Flying Lines. Steve

All respondents:

It's so nice to get written, documented proof that I really need to cultivate new friends.

Tony,

Are you challenging me!? You are aware of the fact that I had built (in Russia) the first ABC piston/cylinder sets for the Fox 35, are you not? Yes, GMA sold them, he was the dealer and it was his idea. But light pistons in a clunky old Fox is hardly new technology to me. And I do have several real sweet running Fox 35 ABCs...

Besides, this is a problem. All my Fox 35 stuff is real good. If your plasma unit is better, I end up with one superior engine, all the rest are junk. Alas.

Scott,

You can park next to me any time, any place. Just don't bother Alice and I when Dave is busy flying.

Randy,

Thanks for pointing out my lack of standards. Original posting has been edited.

Steve,

Thanks for saving me while still poking me with a sharp stick.

Walker,

I've seen that "profile" of yours and you are most definitely stretching the definition. It's kinda like claiming a B-17 is a Stunt plane; you will not be allowed to get away with this.

New article being written for Right Coast PAMPA Contingent. Following the tremendous success of an article which didn't even try to drive the RCPC into shrieking, drooling fits of rage, I'm going for it with an article which does just that. Intentionally. With malice aforethought.

Mr. Zambelli, please prepare to pound your "Caps Lock" key into submission, grease up that upper left !!!!!!! key. You'll be needing both. Along with much improved reading comprehension and reasoning. Don't you be bringing a knife to a gun fight this time around...

Dear Dan.
scuse me I hate talking dirty,
yes I know who did the ABC that george had to market,mighty fine running gear,times change,plasma is so different the liner should be a life sentence.
I do know this george wrote to me with the 46fx plasma we did ,and said 500 revs up better than his best chrome,I have the letter to prove it.
yes there are many of your fine units being used around the world,
I just found the plasma to be so much different,I love people to use them.it performs at a differnt level,cold or hot starts,less oil,no broken front end on my stunt ships from the hippy shakes,
I need people to use to our product's to survive this bussiness.
the guys with the 46super tigers,and ducted fan91 46fx are ape down under.
so please ,I did not intend to insult you,just show whats happened a few years down the road.
god bless till later.

>Walker,
>
>I've seen that "profile" of yours
>and you are most definitely
>stretching the definition. It's kinda
>like claiming a B-17 is
>a Stunt plane; you will
>not be allowed to get
>away with this.

Hey...It IS a stunt plane........!!!!!

Well......My definition of "profile" is a 1/2" thick fuselage, except the 1/8" thick ply doublers on the nose. That is exactly what my "profile is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only problem is that the wing is a teeny teeny bit larger than most are used to. It even has the profile fuse mounted landing gear, side mounted engine, and tank on the fuse side!!! What more can you expect a profile to be???????? And the fuse is probably deeper than yours as well!!

Dan,,,,,If you can't accept this as a profile, then maybe you should take up residence in (&)&*$#*)%)$ where your *&)*)(%)*)%*& other friends live. There you'd fit right in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You better get cracking on a quality "profile" of your own as there will be something of quality for you boys to shoot at!!! And get that silly rule book of yours out, but you better eat those pages that prove "OTBP" IS a profile!!

Please explain why "OTBP" is NOT a "profile".....

Uh, at the risk of showing my ignorance (again), could someone please explain "OTBP"? Did I miss something?

>We need to get JT's regs
>on P.40 (DG's too!). Some
>versions of the rules apparently
>ban tuned pipes...so I have
>to ask if Mac's muffler's
>are included in this ban,
>as they are really pipes.
>Some also say that the
>engine displacement is .40 cu.in.,
>but unless it states in
>the contest info that 4S
>engines do NOT get the
>160% displacement that AMA regs
>allow, announced ahead of time
>(30 days?), in print, then
>it appears to me that
>.64 4S engines are allowed.
>I'll see if I can
>get DG and JT to
>agree and comment on these
>issues, maybe in Flying Lines.
>Steve

Took my MAC'S off for this contest!!

Scott(not naked)Riese

>
>Scott(not naked)Riese

Thanks Scott.......Thanks very much!!!

Niles.

I don't think you have ever seen the OTBP. If you have, you would not forget it. IT'S A PROFILE MADE BY PW!!

Maybe in August.

Hmm, OTBP- "Overly Thin By Paul"? "Old Time Behemoth Profile"?

Can't wait to see it Paul, whatever it is

LAST EDITED ON Jun-18-02 AT 08:03 PM (CST)

Tony,

My comments directed to you should have ended with one of those stupid and idiotic smiley faces, I just don't use 'em. ("Not that there's anything with that," for the Seinfeld fans...)

So, to be serious, my plasma-equipped Fox 35 will pull another 1,500 rpm, run head-to-head with the best ST46s, power a 90-sized ducted fan unit, be illegal for Northwest Sport Race but I will win races until they tear it down, needs very little oil in the fuel. Great!

To really, really be serious, the Fox 35 piston/cylinder/head set from Tony looks fabulous. Yep, the original ABC sets I had made for GMA were real good, I am still using several sets. But we didn't offer a head to go with the package and (gulp) Tony's stuff just plain looks better, fits better, has rounder parts. I can't yet say how well they work, but Tony swears by them, says no more are to be made in any case. Your call...

Walker,

This goofy "profile" of yours is the one which has "Different paths travelled." or some such on the wing, right? The model none other than Mike Pratt will remember as having been taken on a test flight.

You're on! I've seen that load fly. And while I can't match your model's size, Hey!, I've got the real thing, not some mutated and devolved POS. Yes, folks, I will enter P-40. With for-real F2D models. Dirt-built, but Commie Motors for power. Bring your ear plugs.

Thanks a lot for trying to trap me into proving a negative with your "Please explain why 'OTBP' is NOT a 'profile'...." See above for my response; you and I in solidarity, shoulder to shoulder, challenging one and all to explain why our models are not profiles.

Oh, and good one on all of you for the digs about me not entering a Stunt contest this year. Fine. But when I was head down and butt up digging out my septic system, two huge holes, each over five feet deep, just to locate a split line and then to splice in another piece, I would once in a while stick my head up, look around and not see any sign whatsoever of help from the Stunt Community. My wife's stupid cat was of more help when I needed it. The 7-year-old neighbor girl actually did help me. But my Stunt Buddies? None to be seen....

>Oh, and good one on all
>of you for the digs
>about me not entering a
>Stunt contest this year. Fine.
>But when I was head
>down and butt up digging
>out my septic system, two
>huge holes, each over five
>feet deep, just to locate
>a split line and then
>to splice in another piece,
>I would once in a
>while stick my head up,
>look around and not see
>any sign whatsoever of help
>from the Stunt Community. My
>wife's stupid cat was of
>more help when I needed
>it. The 7-year-old neighbor girl
>actually did help me. But
>my Stunt Buddies? None to
>be seen....
>
>Danny Dirt

I'll bet they just figured you were in your element Dirt.

John (Sorry, I just couldn't help myself) Miller

I kept my distance from the residence of one of the correspondents above when he had septic-system troubles. It was tough, as he is my primary source for borrowing props and glow plugs.

Not to give you any encouragement, Dan, but I've noticed that Wm. Shakespeare, Mark Twain, and Winston Churchill all got by without smiley faces, seldom used more than a couple of consecutive exclamation points, but somehow got their messages across.

Dan:
tnx for reply I am glad you like the plasma unit,I know my chrome fox runs like a clock well oiled in other words,but I will awaite with time till you at least try one for me,and report good or bad,you see when I do get time to fly I am over the moon.
re help with work around the home,I find the best help are my cats,all 5 of them,and special breed from siam,
yes they even help roll the balsa knife in my foot while I am building this new twin tiger cat stunter,nothing my super glue cant fix.
may be I forgot to send you some to try?still getting old seem's to be a fact of life,as I remember.
god be with you all,till later.

For all of those worried about my septic tank adventures, I had a slightly unusual helper last weekend. And I thought you might want to hear about it.

While only Randy, Not That Randy, would be able to explain it (please don't, even if you can), kids love to hang around me and whatever I am doing at the moment. On the day in question I had spliced in a new line from effluent tank to drain field and was pondering the possibility of having to actually get in the tank, repositioning the pump. Yes, I have been in there before. No, it's not fun.

The 4-year-old boy from two houses away came by, shot me several times with his teeny little squirt gun, I hosed him with a Super Squirt. We went on like this for a bit until his 7-year-old sister showed up, asked all the usual questions, we teased each other about poopy dirt, poopy water, etc., etc.

The boy went home, presumably to get more firepower for the squirt gun wars, never came back. His sister also went home, but quickly returned, wearing a costume from a school activity. Long white socks, no shoes. Wrap-around pink skirt, pink blouse and angel wings strapped to her body. Looked kinda cool in a weird sort of way.

The girl proceeded to tromp around, asking more questions, until noticing that her socks were filthy from walking around in the poopy dirt. Back home she went, returned wearing thongs.

While all of this was going on I had managed to move the pump around without getting in the tank and had begun to shovel dirt back on top of the tank. The girl asked if she could help, without stopping I told her, "Sure, grab that small shovel," and I continued with my work.

In my world it was a semi-normal deal, kids hanging around, getting involved in whatever I am doing. But as my angelic little friend and I were taking turns at moving this big old pile of dirt down into that empty hole, I noticed movement to my left.

About half the neighborhood had either seen or heard what was going on and there they were, giggling, snapping pictures, trying to avoid detection.

In looking at the pictures (same-day developing is not such a boon to mankind that I couldn't live without it), I must admit it was quite a sight. The angel and I didn't finish our work that day, but when she is a teenager she will have some serious explaining to do.

That pink/pink color scheme and gossamer angel wings will be the paint scheme (done in film, of course) of Dan's next Classic model (Blue .46/Mac's Muffler). I was really gettin' into the yarn, but was disappointed that there were no lazer pointers or 9mm's involved. Sheesh. G'wan, tell us that one, Unka Dirt! Steve

Regarding comments made above about the P40 event upcoming at our summer contest... The "rules" for this are plainly stated on the contest flyer.

It says... "all PA rules except: No BOM rule, no appearance points, profile plane, 40 max engine."

As you can see there is nothing about tuned pipes, nothing about required thickness, no language permitting engines larger than .40 'cause they're 4 cycles, diesels, CO2, warp drive, or anything else.

There is no mention, nor should there be, of anyone else's p-40 regulations in connection to this WOLF event. These are WOLF's rules as stated here and on the contest flyer. Those of us who participated in the contest planning specifically discussed what rules we felt would make a simple, fun event with little confusion.

Just wanted to point this out to head off any possible misunderstandings. Hope to see y'all here!

Jerry Eichten
WOLF Vice President

LAST EDITED ON Jun-20-02 AT 09:38 AM (CST)

>>....I would once in a while stick my head up, look around and not see any sign whatsoever of help from the Stunt Community. My wife's stupid cat was of more help when I needed it. The 7-year-old neighbor girl actually did help me. But my Stunt Buddies? None to be seen....<<<

Whine, whine, whine...

I didn't see anyone when I was hand digging 50 posts hole either. so? <snicker>

>But when I was head
>down and butt up digging
>out my septic system, two
>huge holes, each over five
>feet deep, just to locate
>a split line and then
>to splice in another piece,
>I would once in a
>while stick my head up,
>look around and not see
>any sign whatsoever of help
>from the Stunt Community. My
>wife's stupid cat was of
>more help when I needed
>it. The 7-year-old neighbor girl
>actually did help me. But
>my Stunt Buddies? None to
>be seen....
>
>Danny Dirt

Well, Danny "poopy" Dirt, I also did not see you at my house when I DID have to crawl into the effluent tank to replace the pump and piping!!! And my cat was of no help either!

If that's the way you want it, so be it. Off with the pipe...Straight header....Off with the "big" stunt prop.....On with the 8-4 and on with the nitro....We'll see who makes more noise!!! We'll scare those people right out of the airport terminal!!!!!!!! Just kidding Jerry!

All BS aside.......What's the status of your Impact with the funny motor??? Inquiring minds would like to know!!!

We may be getting just a wee bit off point here.

Following Jerry's input, I really think all of us need to put our minds to making P-40 at the Salem contest into a complex, serious event with maximum confusion. Has anyone contacted Mel Lyne?

PW, the pump I was repositioning is the second unit I have personally installed. So we both have seen an effluent tank from the inside.

However, in my case there is both a used-ta-be-good 25' steel rule down there, along with a polished Fox 4-way wrench, condition unknown. When one drops a tool in these sorts of situations, it's pretty much gone...

Alas, I am still behind the curve when it comes to flying toy airplanes. But my overly large veggie garden is in super shape, not having been touched last year. (See Year 2001 Excuses.)

But the Impact! Ah, yes, I have cut three sets of lines, balanced some props, and, well, I've got three unused sets of lines, props ditto. Maybe this weekend.

As to the Noise Fest in P-40: Revs equal noise and I really don't think you're going to be comfortable with that O.S. 32 running in ear-bleed territory. I will, however, be glad to help set the needle to full-kill.