Plans for the KenHi Mustang stunter

Although I've been relatively diligent about watching eBay for any of these old kits, the only one that I ever saw on there went through this week for more than I expected, or managed to bid up to myself (another one of the times that I'd have loved to be connected to the net with a T-1 line!).

I've contacted the winner, who lives in Michigan, it turns out. If needed, I can look up Canton in an Atlas or on the internet equivalent - because there hasn't been any full size plan ever made for that plane. Hi Johnson designed the Veco Mustang first, which is on the small side at about 450 square inches of area, and it has a very thin airfoil. A full-size plan has been made at some point for that one, but as far as I know, not for this one (yet).

I'm sure there are other people interested in preserving that plane's design, and I'm hoping there is one such in Michigan to whom I can forward David Trotter's contact information (that's the auction winner's name), who can trace off the parts at least as basic preparation for generating a plan set. He seems reluctant to let me do that, I think (of course, there is the fact I was bidding in the auction, even if I didn't get back again in time for another bid of my own).

Any Michiganians on here I can talk into volunteering? Currell, how far from there are you?

K.

K: Canton is about one hour away, no problem. We have a swap there every March. It's close to the old Willow Run B-24 plant.

Why don't I just borrow the plans from the guy and kinko them?

I would like one.

LAST EDITED ON May-02-01 AT 12:23 PM (EST)

Similar to the Sterling, Top Flite, and Veco kits of the 1950's, the KenHi plans are/were "Isometric" only; there were no patterns for any of the parts with the instructions that I know of. The eBay listing had included a photo showing the unfolded plan; it was the usual thing for its time.

Trotter suggested that I try to locate someone in Michigan that he would lend the entire kit to as a source for patterns; then if that person isn't a draftsman, we have to pass the patterns to someone who can turn the patterns and measurements into a plan.

Added in edit three hours later: as of noon, Wednesday, I've eMailed Currell "backchannel" with Trotter's eMail address. I'll also write David as well to tell him why I gave his address out. Some folks prefer to restrict the circulation of their eMail addresses, and I don't know his preference yet.

This thread has now spread to Isky's also. There is a "Charlie" writing me there saying he can't answer messages here (I always thought that Yahoo was the one that was hard to deal with!)

P.P.S. The way I figure it, I'd pay for a copy of the finished product, so maybe Windy would sell copies of a plan drawn by Buso?

The K.

A draftsman I'm not, although I play one on TV.

K, what you're asking for here is pretty tough. It's going to be hard to find someone who will do this gratis. Currell

Guys:

I'm right next door to Canton. I also belong to Signal Seekers.

We have a very strong contingent of CL guys like Bob McDonald, Art Adamisin and Family, and several others. I am new to the club but will look tonite to see if Mr. Trotter is perhaps a member.

Regardless, he may be more inclined to let us trace if he could be there with the kit.

I'll check.

PS: I was a draftsman for a while out of school.--Pre-CAD!

Along these lines, I've got plans for Claire Severilng's Mustang stunter. Anyone have experience with both birds, and the differrences in flight charecters? It's a tempting project! (Did I mention I love Mustangs?)

>(Did I mention I love Mustangs?)

I'd say that love affair should be pretty wide-spread among the modelling community! I've been head over heels since I was a tyke!

K.

Eric,

I don't speak with any experience between the 2 models, but knowing what I do I'd probably be safe in saying that there is little comparison between the two. The Seiverling Mustang is probably head and shoulders over the Kenhi.

I'm a 'Stang lover too. I've been flying a SIG mustang the last couple years and it preforms nicely even at 46 oz UG! Clair Seiverling's Mustang is on my wish list, what would you charge for a set of those plans?

Thanks,

Randy Ryan

Randy Wrote --

>Clair Seiverling's Mustang is on my wish
>list, what would you charge for a set of those
>plans? Thanks, Randy Ryan

Hi Randy, I'd be glad to do it, but in the long run, I think the better idea has been stated, get them from Tom Dixon. I'd have to get to Kinko's to make a 2'nd generation copy and then buy a mailing tube, all said and done, Tom could end up cheaper and a better quality print. (and definately easier for me )
EricV

Go to the Post Office and get a traingular tube they use for mailing blue prints. These are for priority mail or express mail use only, but they give them away for free. Cost of shipping is then $3.95 (Priority) but is definitely cheaper than buying a mailing tube and still having to pay postage. (I get these, courtesy of our government at work, delivered free to my door. The boxes they come in make nice shipping boxes for kits. Gotta sell more plans so I can get more shipping boxes for kits.)

LAST EDITED ON May-02-01 AT 08:35 PM (EST)

Kiwi, Currell & Curt,

I live just south of Canton in Belleville and I think I've met Dave Trotter. I'll check around and see if I can locate him too. I'd like a set of those plans too.

The Sieverling Mustang is available from Dixon, IF I remember correctly, at least one of the plans providers, for about the price you'd pay at Kinko's. There is/was a list of volunteer draftsmen at PAMPA willing to donate their time to preserve our special antiquities. Put 'em to work! Some folks seem to want a plan to be a work of art...I'd be happy with complete and useful. I see crumby CAD drawings every day at work and they are seldom correct, complete, or logical. Anybody who can get some info from Riley Wooten on his "Slick Stunt Ship", aka "Lonestar", let's try to save another excellent Classic. Steve

Steve The SLICK STUNT MACHINE as viewed in the pampa stunt classic book is a very neat machine.I have looked at it for years and I now am building one fron the 3/view.Was this ever a real model or just a idea of a good model.Can some one find out or should I do it?I didn't see a e/mail address in the 2000 ref.manual for R.W

Kiwi: I've known Charlie for about a couple of years now, and he is a skilled draftsman, and all around good guy. If he offered help, this is good. He also has the actual built plane, as you are awar..

K: At Isky's, Charlie is volunteering to make drawings. I know that he does a lot of drawings, and...Once again, Charlie is a top notch guy, very knowledgeable, and extremely helpful.

I'd take him up on this. At this juncture, this seems to be the most efficient way to go. You guys can work out some kind of arrangement.