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SRiese5283 · May 25, 2003 08:27 PM

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Northwest Regionals. Had a good time…LOL… Hot on Friday, Cooler on Saturday, Perfect today. LOTS of flyers in fact THEY’RE still flying. I got my flights in early and went home. You see one of Paul’s, Ted’s, David’s, Brett's, Gordens, Howard’s, Bruce’s, Chris’s…Wait theirs more... ONLY twenty experts today. I have know idea who won. HOWEVER, Paul added about 35 pts to his score on the second flight. I think he flew a 580!! HAY I was 16 pts away after my first flight. Gordon Delany (sorry for the spelling) won CLASSIC with one of the most beautiful flights you could of watched. Ted flew Don McClaves Oriental and took second. And then DON! OTS was won by “DIRT” (bag). Others will post more. I’m SURE……. Oh I lost two planes…

Scott (no pilot ere) Riese

duck · May 25, 2003 09:24 PM

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Hopefully, Someone will post some pics. How about it Randy.....Wish I could have been there to join the rest of the dreaded canadian contingent....

Grounded · May 25, 2003 10:01 PM

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>Northwest Regionals. Had a good time…LOL… Hot on Friday,
>Cooler on Saturday, Perfect today. LOTS of flyers in fact
>THEY’RE still flying. I got my flights in early and went
>home. You see one of Paul’s, Ted’s, David’s, Brett's,
>Gordens, Howard’s, Bruce’s, Chris’s…Wait theirs more... ONLY
>twenty experts today. I have know idea who won. HOWEVER,
>Paul added about 35 pts to his score on the second flight. I
>think he flew a 580!! HAY I was 16 pts away after my first
>flight. Gordon Delany (sorry for the spelling) won CLASSIC
>with one of the most beautiful flights you could of watched.
>Ted flew Don McClaves Oriental and took second. And then
>DON! OTS was won by “DIRT” (bag). Others will post more. I’m
>SURE……. Oh I lost two planes…
>
>Scott (no pilot ere) Riese

Scott

Thanks for the up date sorry to hear about your Plane loss. I plained on being there this year with my new plane. The plane is ready but I am still waiting for my engine to be returned. Now where did I send that thing it's been so long I almost forgot.

Heavy Stunt · May 26, 2003 12:39 AM

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Here are the official results for the PAMPA Classes, Old Time and Classic. I have pictures I'll post in another message.

Old Time Stunt (Judges: John Miller, Scott Riese)

Dan Rutherford 321.5
Mike Conner 320.75
Keith Varley 311.75
Roy DeCamara 311.0
David Fitzgerald 308.5
Jim Aron 307.0
Pete Peterson 278.75
Floyd Carter 254.0
Heman Lee 180.75
Mike Haverly 176.5
Bill Ledden 136.0


Classic (Judges: Dave Fitzgerald, Scott Riese)

Gordon Delaney 540.0
Ted Fancher 527.5
Don McClave 523.5
Phil Granderson 502.5
Dan Rutherford 494.5
Pete Peterson 482.5
Bruce Hunt 478.5
Gerald Schamp 456.0
Roy DeCamara 448.5
Scott Urabe 438.5
John Miller 436.0
Lee Uberbacher 426.0
David Pellerin 414.5
Mike Haverly 250.5


Beginner (Judges: John Miller, Dave Fitzgerald)

Rich Salter 203.5
Bill Ledden 199.5
Allana Perry 146.0
David Miller 23.0

Intermediate (Judges: John Miller, Dave Fitzgerald)

Heman Lee 469.0
Neil Rogers 437.5
Mike Haverly 427.0
Dave Pellerin 414.0
Mike Foley 403.5

Advanced (Judges: Chris Cox, Pat Johnston)

Pete Peterson 508.0
Keith Varley 500.0
Dave Royer 491.0
Phil Juarez 486.5
Mark Micheli 478.5
Bob Smiley 477.5
Will Reeb 474.5
Walter Hicks 473.5
Scott Urabe 468.5
Roy DeCamara 467.5
John Miller 239.0

Expert (Judges: Mike Conners, Steve Helmick)

Paul Walker 580.0
Dave Fitzgerald 568.5
Gordon Delaney 566.5
Brett Buck 564.5
Ted Fancher 561.5
Chris Cox 561.5
Howard Rush 555.0
Jim Aron 543.0
Bruce Perry 542.5
Jack Pitcher 541.0
Pat Johnston 537.0
Dan Rutherford 527.0
Scott Riese 525.5
Phil Granderson 522.0
Randy Powell 517.0
John Leidle 512.0
Bruce Hunt 510.5
Gerald Schamp 508.5
Lee Uberbacher 499.5
Jerry Eichten 484.0

Bruce Hunt
Salem, OR

Nils · May 26, 2003 12:58 AM

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Thanks Bruce!

/\/\/

rudderpost99 · May 26, 2003 04:45 PM

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Hey, I flew Classic also. Dead last with (I think) a 404. Oh well...

- Dave

Aeromaniacs · May 26, 2003 07:53 PM

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Its good to put the your Stuka name to a face. It was nice to meet you at this years NW Regionals. I had a blast! If you don't remember, I flew the Baby Clown. I'm glad you took my suggestion, you did much better on the 2nd flights.

Heman Lee

Heavy Stunt · May 27, 2003 01:13 AM

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David,

I checked my list and found my mistake. I somehow left you off of the Classic list. I also left Mike Haverly off the list also. So the good news is that you scored higher than you remembered and you weren't last either!

Sorry about the mixup. This may also mean Dan may not get the results into Stunt News correctly because he was depending on my reporting.

Bruce Hunt
Salem, OR

rudderpost99 · May 28, 2003 09:04 AM

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Thanks for the update... and all the advice as well.

- Dave

Heavy Stunt · May 26, 2003 12:55 AM

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There were alot of interesting models at the NW Regionals this year.

Four Strokes were everywhere. Paul Walker had his new lighter Miss America with a Saito .72 upfront, Gordon Delaney had a four stroke powered Tony that won the Concours Award, Chris Cox brought a new Saturn with four stroke power, Jim Aron had his Saito powered Boogaloo, and Randy Powell had another HIGH ASPECT ratio 4 banger.

Scott Urabe had a couple new models with interesting paint jobs. His Skylark employed his patented rain drop scheme and his Ninja in floresent Pink, Yellow and Green on white was discribed by one person as a killer fishing lure.

Enjoy!

Bruce Hunt
Salem, OR

Alan Resinger · May 26, 2003 06:45 AM

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Bruce,
Thanks for the pics. Just wish I could have gotten down this year. Just finished the Sukhoi this weekend so hopefully I'll make it down to the Stuntathon on the 15th.
Alan Resinger
Vancouver, BC

Bob Smiley · May 26, 2003 12:30 PM

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I wish to recognize some great people at the contest who were gracious in providing support and their experience on my behalf. That extra attention made for a wonderful weekend and a great learning experience. As a result of those efforts I came to realize that it is truly beneficial to advance from Intermediate to the Advanced category.

Lacking confidence in my equipment and ability combination (based on the previous year's expereinces), I entered in the Intermediate event. After the first flight it became apparent from the score that a change was necessary. So after talking to others and Dave Gardner(contest Director) we concluded that competition in the Advanced class would be the appropriate thing to do. I did compete therein and did ok.

Randy Powell deserves great coodoos and high fives for his selfless sacrifice and continued support on my behalf, without which such progress would not be possible or as pleasureable. I am indebted to him in many ways, to numerous to elaborate or divulge and I want everyone to know that he is a great guy from personal experience. Thanks Randy for all you contribute on my behalf and to the sport.

John Miller, who assisted me with a new Excaliber, ( He had one at the contest). We and others tried to ring it out prior to classic competition but an unfortunate engine out while inverted bent the needle valve on a new Rustler 40 and it was John's previous experience of two such events at this contest that he hollered for me to run to the grass and fortunately the needle valve and my pride were the only things that suffered. So the Excaliber will live for another day.

Unfortunately for John, he lost his Excaliber in an unnexpected happening. I did not visually witness the event but I heard the experience. He was performing a vertical eight ( heresay) I heard the motor running then a ping or snap followed almost immediately by the sound of a thump of crushing balsa and then silence. After the appropriate commiseration (sp), the PAMPA safety board gathered around the remains and concluded that the horizontal stab snapped at the heaviest load point in the maneuver. Sorry John. He lost two planes this weekend.

Another intesting event occured with Ted Fancher. Ted, perhaps you can supply the details of the incident or accident. He displayed an ventury intake for one of his powerplants which contained the remains of a bumble bee. The group surrounding that evidence was truly dismayed and we concluded that Ted needs to inquire of the NTSB whether this is an incident or rather an accident because of the death of the bee. More to come later. Ted stated he will further investigate the matter back in Frisco and report back to us. We await your report, Ted.

Ted Fancher flew my Primary Force two times and Brett Buck used his surgical eyes and a heat gun and we removed two warps in the wing of the Primary Force and uncovered some interesting trim problems. On the ground the H stab is in alignment. In the air the inside stab is higher as the fuselage twists. Hmmmm perhaps the take apart feature needs additional attention. There is only one pin in the connection. There should probably be two. This is a learning expereince for me and revealed that competent stunt flying and preparation for advancing to the higher levels is an exercise in mastering the details, solving the problems and putting it all together. I flew the force once after these fixes and it flies better but more needs to be done. This can be a fun experience and I welcome the challenge.

Chris Cox for his upbeat personable approach to life and the the sport and profession of flying. We had a great ride in the Lancair on Saturday around and through the clouds in the Albany area. By the way, he is planning to build an RV6 so he and his wife can fly to the contest like I do in the Lancair. So midwest fellas, watch out you will soon have a strong competitor flying in to take your hardware away from you.

All in all the contest was well run, the weather was varied but nobody got blown out of the air and the rain did not pour on our parade so the weather cooperated nicely.

Let's do it again.

Bob Smiley
A Lancair 360 builder/pilot trying to be a modeler


Randy · May 26, 2003 04:18 PM

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Folks,

A couple more pics

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Patrick and Bearcat

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PT with Olympic

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Gordon with Tony

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Bob (did you know I have a Lancair) Smiley with Excalibur

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At least Elvis showed up - Will Rebe with Legacy

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The Combat Fix - Granderson fixes his tailwheel.

Randy Powell

Nils · May 26, 2003 04:20 PM

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Great report Bob. Between your post & Bruce's pictures I'm not feeling quite as sorry for myself for missing it this year.
Saayyy- Would you consider being the new District 11 Dictator?

/\/\/

Wow, more pix while I was typing! Thanks Randy!

Randy · May 26, 2003 04:33 PM

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Here's a couple more. I'm sure Howard will have some too.

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Some of the classic lineup

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Happiness is relative - Saturday morning hanger flying

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Da Dirt holds forth

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You put in HOW MANY PLANES?

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The usual suspects. Alana keeps them in line.

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OK, that's hard enough. It's only an .049 (gotta love the pull test)

That should give a feel for the weekend.

Randy Powell

Heavy Stunt · May 26, 2003 08:34 PM

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Nils,

I would be open to being the District 11 representative. Dan has done a good job of keeping the communication going while recognizing and reporting the activity in our area. I would like to let the rest of the PA community know what a great bunch of PA fliers we have in the the Pacific NW. Reporting on our activity and letting the rest of the world know what fun we have would be a pleasure.

In any case, I'm putting together a video of the NW Regionals for those with $15 to spare. As an added bonus, I managed to grab up all those score sheets nobody wanted and will experiment with putting the judge's scoreing along with the flight as it occurs. Could be interesting. So if you want to see a reverse wing over scored 36 for Dave Fitzgerald as compared to a Paul Walker 33 this is your chance. I even have footage of the Ted Fancher "Death to Bees" flight that ended in the grass inverted.

Bruce Hunt
Salem, OR

Nils · May 26, 2003 09:07 PM

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Great Bruce, you would be a great Dist. 11 rep! Send me a tape when you get them ready.

/\/\/

Bob Smiley · May 26, 2003 10:18 PM

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I agree that Bruce Hunt would do a great job. I should not get involved at this time because there is a learning curve I desire to achieve in this sport??? hobby????? whatever and there is much to learn. Thanks for the confidence Nils but there are others with more contacts and experience at this time to bring more to the table than I.

Bob Smiley
a Lancair 360 builder/flyer trying to be a modeler

Steve Helmick · May 26, 2003 11:12 PM

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I showed up about 1pm Thursday, mowed the combat pit area to double the size/change direction and the Navy Carrier pit area, and Dave Shrum and I raked the NC area to remove huge piles of grass cuttings.

Friday did cut counting and timing ground time for D-Bat with Bill Ledden (another PAMPA member) from Ridgecrest, CA, where my brother lives.

Saturday, I ran scoresheets for OTS and Classic. Got to stand behind the judges and watch some, and let me give you a hot tip: When John Miller finishes the plans for the Colossus, and if Jim Tischy gives Walter Umland permission to make some kits of it...get in line. It's a very good flier, as proved by Gordon Delaney, who flew one to win Classic.

Sunday I judged Expert with Mike Conner. I think PW's first flight was a test of Zilla's "Halo Effect" theory...I recall the wingover being particularly stinky...for Paul. Ted's first round flight was superb. Gordon and David's corners were too soft to suit me. Gordon's corners were a bit high and the pullouts were not spot on...no hop after the pullout, but not crisp. Brett flew very well, but a bit off here and there. I think Ted said it was Brett's new RO-Jett that made the difference, but the handle wiggling was better than last year, I thought. Howard flew well, but not on top form.

Bruce Perry and Dan Dirt flew their bottoms consistantly too low and lost points for it. The ramp slopes pretty noticeably, and a lot of fliers flew level to the ramp, not level to the Universe. It messed up their level flight, inverted flight, and the horizontal 8's and square 8's the most. It makes flying difficult and is no help to the judges, trust me. A lot of triangles and hourglasses were too wide/flat, wingovers with curved paths (top view), and different radiuses at each end. Scott's first flight started out really well, but somewhere in the middle, the wheels came off (figuratively). Lost concentration, back pain, not enough sleep or something. PTG flew well, but not without problems. I think he needed to bet Howard $2.63 that he'd beat him. Seemed to have fun anyway. What was that engine problem, Phil? The Diva appears to fly very slowly, indicating light weight and lots of power from the piped Magnum .36.

It was great to see Mark Micheli and Scott Urabe from Salinas, and some new faces like Gordon Delaney (Utah), Will Reeb and others from Edmonton, Heman Lee, Walter Hicks, Bill Ledden and Phil Juarez from California, and I see some new names that I didn't get to meet and have no idea where they're from. Next year, I hope. Plan to be there!

Howard Rush · May 27, 2003 12:23 AM

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Steve has done a heap of work at all our contests for several years. We all really appreciate his effort, and we shall continue to exploit him as long as we can.

Steve, did you notice an extraordinary tendency for low bottoms at that contest? It might have been because the west side of the circle was higher than the center, or maybe some visual illusion. I thought that there was a lot more really low flying than usual.

Randy · May 27, 2003 12:31 AM

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I don't know Howard, when I can see the shadow on the ground inches below my plane, I figure I'm probably flying too low. Thought I had a lock on the Paul Walker gravel award (where you have gravel in your rudder but don't crash), but I think John Miller was the winner. Or maybe Bruce Perry.

Was a tough day for sighting bottoms.

And thanks to Steve and Mike for judging.

Randy Powell

Steve Helmick · May 27, 2003 12:56 AM

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did you notice an extraordinary tendency for low
>bottoms at that contest? It might have been because the
>west side of the circle was higher than the center, or maybe
>some visual illusion. I thought that there was a lot more
>really low flying than usual.

I don't recall it being as bad last year at the same site. Tho I don't remember which class used which circle last year, which might have made some difference. This is a difficult situation for the flier, and it drives me nuts when I fly. That may be why I like the Arlington Airport site...flat. Or maybe more fliers were wearing bifocals this year? Yeah, that could be it. Steve

Brett Buck · May 27, 2003 11:19 AM

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> Brett flew very well, but a bit off
>here and there. I think Ted said it was Brett's new RO-Jett
>that made the difference, but the handle wiggling was better
>than last year, I thought.

Given that I had done the old engine switch - RO-Jett->PA61->RO-Jett (with different head shims,prop, and venturi) the night before, and with no practice flights in the configuration I ended up using, I was actually relatively satisfied that I didn't embarrass myself. Compared to last year, I probably did make better stunts, but last year I ended up flying upwind most of my second flight due to random wind shifts!

>Bruce Perry and Dan Dirt flew their bottoms consistantly too
>low and lost points for it.

<<snip>>

> PTG flew well, but not without
>problems. I think he needed to bet Howard $2.63 that he'd
>beat him. Seemed to have fun anyway. What was that engine
>problem, Phil? The Diva appears to fly very slowly,
>indicating light weight and lots of power from the piped
>Magnum .36.

Very unusual, but he just wasn't choking it enough. I would place my bet on "competition nerves" - it sounded dead dry both times, and I pretty well knew it wasn't going to go. Worst problem that one he let it effect him through the flight.

Phil came closer to the ground than *anyone* short of actually hitting it, by a long shot. All the maneuvers in the first round were right in front of the crowd, and it was easy to see from that direction. There was some debate on whether Phil hit his tail wheel on the first flight, but I don't think so. I think this was a function of flying way to the pilot's right of the wind. Having a tail wind at the bottom will tend to do that.

But Howard is right, there were a lot of low bottoms - maybe you had the same optical illusion problem that most others had. Bruce's first flight was real low with a big hops like all his practice flights. But his second flight was spot-on. Dirty Dan was also pretty low, but there were a lot of others. It's hard to see the ground up against the hangers, and seeing how the ground on that side is about a foot or so higher, it's not that hard to see. Once the wind turned around, there wasn't any unusual rash of low bottoms.

Brett

Jerry Eichten · May 26, 2003 10:49 PM

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Here's Bob Smiley with the plane he built - over his shoulder. Also holding the Force mentioned above.
Note Paul Walker's dance move upper left...

Brett Buck · May 26, 2003 11:09 PM

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>Ted Fancher flew my Primary Force two times and Brett Buck
>used his surgical eyes and a heat gun and we removed two
>warps in the wing of the Primary Force and uncovered some
>interesting trim problems. On the ground the H stab is in
>alignment. In the air the inside stab is higher as the
>fuselage twists. Hmmmm perhaps the take apart feature needs
>additional attention. There is only one pin in the
>connection. There should probably be two.


That's not necessarily a function of the take-apart feature. Take a look at most one-piece profiles in flight, and something similar happens. The original Imitation (the one from the must-read 1979 article) probably twisted 20 degrees in hard corners. It flew OK (in fact, great) but I can only imagine that it would have been even more consistent with a more rigid structure.

I might add that it seems to change a lot with cornering. Yours was noticably more twisted on outside corners (almost certainly as the result of the force on the pushrod). I also suspect that it's also bending and thus changing the effective rudder settings.

I haven't seen any really good method to avoid these issues on a profile. A full-fuse airplane is of course a lot better than a profile in this regard, but it's my belief that even full-fuse airplanes benefit a lot from "more than standard" construction techinques.

Brett

Steve Helmick · May 27, 2003 12:12 AM

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I have suggested to Bob that he make the wing two pieces, using Tom Morris' hardware...seems to me like it would work even better on a profile than a full fuselage, and be a perfect solution for putting a stunter in that little Lancair. Carbon vail and epoxy or Polycrylic should stiffen the fuselage ok. Steve

Steve Helmick · May 27, 2003 01:40 AM

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>There were alot of interesting models at the NW Regionals
>this year.
>
>Four Strokes were everywhere. Paul Walker had his new
>lighter Miss America with a Saito .72 upfront, Gordon
>Delaney had a four stroke powered Tony that won the Concours
>Award, Chris Cox brought a new Saturn with four stroke
>power, Jim Aron had his Saito powered Boogaloo, and Randy
>Powell had another HIGH ASPECT ratio 4 banger.
>
>Scott Urabe had a couple new models with interesting paint
>jobs. His Skylark employed his patented rain drop scheme
>and his Ninja in floresent Pink, Yellow and Green on white
>was discribed by one person as a killer fishing lure.
>
>Enjoy!
>
>Bruce Hunt
>Salem, OR

Both of Scott Urabe's models had 4 strokes (Saito 56 and OS .48), as did Walter Hicks' Saito .72 powered Laser 200 "Bud Light". I asked Scott U. about the finish on his Ninja, and it's pearl white, powder from auto paint store mixed into Brodak Clear. Normally, I am not too hot for this type of styling and paint, but I thought it was innovative, original, striking, rather pretty in a way,...awesome! I thought it looked more like an Alien Space Ship than a fishing lure. I know fishing lures... Steve

Old Sourdough · May 27, 2003 04:47 AM

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Some excellent looking airplanes. If I were asked to pick a favorite from these pictures (I realize that I wasn't asked, it's just a way to get there from where I started.), I'd probably go for the "SKY DANCER" with its relatively traditional lines and graphics. To me, it's a simple, elegant beauty, even with that strange green fuselage. Does anyone know who built/flew it?

Of course, I also like the Tony, the Mustang and the Laser 200 for their "real" look.

TED FANCHER · May 27, 2003 08:18 AM

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>Some excellent looking airplanes. If I were asked to pick a
>favorite from these pictures (I realize that I wasn't asked,
>it's just a way to get there from where I started.), I'd
>probably go for the "SKY DANCER" with its relatively
>traditional lines and graphics. To me, it's a simple,
>elegant beauty, even with that strange green fuselage. Does
>anyone know who built/flew it?
>
>Of course, I also like the Tony, the Mustang and the Laser
>200 for their "real" look.
OS,

IT'S JUST ANOTHER OF THE APPROXIMATELY 37 ANNUAL UNITS PRODUCED BY ROY DECAMARA. EACH AND EVERY ONE A PIECE OF ART. ROY WON THE CONCOURS AT VSC THIS YEAR WITH HIS PEGASUS.

TED

John Leidle · May 27, 2003 12:07 PM

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Can I say one thing? The photo of Gordon's Plane doesn't do it justice. You simply must see it in the air. It was magnificent.

John L.

[email protected] · May 27, 2003 07:21 PM

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Thanks, guys, for all the information and pics! Two items were missed because most folks didn't stay for the awards: There is an overall Stunt Champion category which was won by Gordan Delaney (note spelling!) for his win in Classic plus 3rd in Expert. He beat Keith Varley (from British Columbia) by one point!

In addition, Gordan won the prized (?) Concours d'Elegance award, for the best appearing airplane, as voted by the pilots, for his Kawasaki KI-61 Tony / Hien / Swallow semi-scale stunter. Even PW flew it about 5 times after the contest, with good reports!

Also, a note of belated thanks to all the volunteer workers who made this event possible; (not in any particular order) John Miller, Scott Riese, John Leidle, Hube Start, Dave Fitzgerald, Chris Cox, Pat Johnston, Mike Connor and Steve Helmick. A lot of the work would not have been possible without the able help of the newly liberated Alice Gardner, doing her usual capable work with setup, tallying, posting, hugging and generally keeping the great unwashed masses in line!

Thanks again to all of you!

Dave Gardner
ED, Stunt Events
NW Regionals

Randy · May 27, 2003 11:55 PM

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John,

Here you go:

Gordon in flight, er, well, the Tony in flight anyway.


Randy Powell

jobellcrank · May 27, 2003 08:13 PM

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I just wanted to say thanks to all the hard workers, organizers, and especially the competitors who made the almost 1000 mile trip all worth it. The NW Regionals is one of the "must do", at least once in a life time, events in CL.

Once again I am reminded why I choose to put my efforts in this sport. I've never hung out with a bunch of finer people than those in this sport. Even the total lose of my old Excalibur, and damaging the new Legacy couldn't put a damper on the fun for me.

So to all of you, a heart felt thanks.


Dr Spark · May 27, 2003 08:50 PM

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The NW Regionals was a pretty neat contest. Just about everything on steel lines was flown. Some of those obscure racing events were witnessed by me for the first time. I'm not going to try to figure out the rules.

I'm waiting for someone to report on OTS... You know, the "other" stunt category: the one that doesn't get much coverage. (yes I know who won, but what else happened?)

Floyd

dirtydan · May 27, 2003 09:07 PM

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Dr. Spark,

I won. Nothing else of consequence happened in OTS. Sorry.

Dan Rutherford

dirtydan · May 27, 2003 10:01 PM

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Dr. Spark,

On the other hand...

It turns out the judges were waiting for someone to do decent overhead 8s, Mike and I being cited by Scott Riese.

Heman Lee was amazing with his 1/2A Flying Clown. (It was an FC, was it not?)

The battle between Mike Conner and Keith Varley was merely a footnote to battles which stretch back over years.

Roy DeCamara showed all of us that we are wusses, nothing but wannabe OTS fliers. His Wildman60, fitted with a big-bang sparker was annoyingly loud. Remember, Roy flies back'ard; so the exhuast port was blatting in our faces, not his.

Jim Aron still has one of the world's coolest Ringmasters.

Your turn. I see where you were active and flying in OTS at the '03 Regionals. Share your experiences and observations.

Did you have a swap-meet table piled high with B-Y&O props? If so, how did I miss it? In fact, how was it that you and I did not meet?

Dan Rutherford

Steve Helmick · May 27, 2003 10:14 PM

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>Dr. Spark,

>Roy DeCamara showed all of us that we are wusses, nothing
>but wannabe OTS fliers. His Wildman60, fitted with a
>big-bang sparker was annoyingly loud. Remember, Roy flies
>back'ard; so the exhuast port was blatting in our faces, not
>his.

WAY Cool! Thanks, Roy!

<snip>

>Did you have a swap-meet table piled high with B-Y&O props?
>If so, how did I miss it? In fact, how was it that you and I
>did not meet?
>
>Dan Rutherford

Dan, Even I, lowly worm score runner on Saturday, met Dr. Spark. If you didn't, there must have been some divine plan, Stealth Technology, or some fancy avoidance maneuvers on the part of Dr. Spark. I expected him to be taller. Steve

Dr Spark · May 29, 2003 03:35 PM

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Steve. Just a minute!! I consider myself to be very distictive-looking. I am 190 cm in height (that's 6' 3") and somewhat thin, with a beautiful grey beard, which, although my wife doesn't like, is appealing to me (and several other nice ladies which I cannot mention by name on this forum).

The NW Regionals was my first visit to this contest, perhaps because I now live only about 30 miles away.

Old Floyd

Randy · May 28, 2003 12:03 AM

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Dan,

Said Wildman with friends.

Randy Powell

Dr Spark · May 29, 2003 03:48 PM

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Randy. I have a soft spot in my heart for the WILDMAN 60. Maybe that's because I designed this model in 1950.

There have been several built recently. Unfortunately for me, Dave Marshall and Roy DeCamara have both beaten me with my own design at the same contests!

Floyd

Dr Spark · May 29, 2003 03:18 PM

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Mr. Rutherford. I attended the NW Regionals to fly, and not to engage in crass commerce. I posted a notice in the stunt "hanger" for my B-Y&O props, but I didn't go around trying to hawk props.

I still have 15 ea. 10 X6 props and 4 ea/ 10 X 5. I would be pleased to send some to you, but now you are into postage, etc...

Floyd

dirtydan · May 29, 2003 05:19 PM

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Dr. Spark,

Crass commercialism is an interesting phrase, as I find nothing crass about exchanging units of labor for neato stuff I can use. Regardless, trading and selling is encouraged at the NW Regionals, witness the swap meet and its attendant tables piled high with, uh, model-related offerings.

No problem. The Seattle Skyraiders will stage their annual Stuntathon in about three weeks. OTS, Classic, four classes of PA. Plenty of potential customers, including myself.

Dan Rutherford

Steve Helmick · May 29, 2003 09:33 PM

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>Dr. Spark,

<snip>

>No problem. The Seattle Skyraiders will stage their annual
>Stuntathon in about three weeks. OTS, Classic, four classes
>of PA. Plenty of potential customers, including myself.
>
>Dan Rutherford
>

For NW Contests and other NW CL activities, see http://www.nwskyraiders.org/events.html I have arbitrarily set the distance limit for posting at 14 hour drive time (for me). http://www.yosemiteflash.com/xiamacl.htm is District 11's website. Steve

jobellcrank · May 29, 2003 10:26 PM

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For those who might be interested, I've completed the "post mortem" on the remains of the Excalibur. I'm now convinced that the snapping sound heard by those who watched it go in, was caused by the bellcrank mount letting loose. I had made three "less than conventional" landings previously to the last flight and apparently, at least one of the spars, the basswood mount was attached to, had cracked. With the extra loads applied during the horizontal eights, there wasn't a chance it would survive.

When the mount let loose, the bellcrank took out all of the ribs in the inboard wing to the last rib in the tip. Being that the plane was built from good, light, balsa, the remaining parts mostly turned to dust.

It was a good plane and served me well for hundreds of flights.

I think I'll build another one.

SRiese5283 · May 29, 2003 11:01 PM

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You and I should own a JUNK yard

Scott(Build em Break em)Riese