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Al Rabe · Jun 26, 2003 11:28 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-26-03 AT 12:31 PM (CDT)
 
A couple of months ago somebody had a block of balsa 1x3x36 which weighed 7 ozs and was wondering what it was good for. Many people pointed out that the density of his wood was 7 lb/cu/ft. Leonard gave a better reply with a formula for mental calculations.

At the time I noticed that his 1x3x36 weighed 7ozs. This recalled a mental calculation I've always used for 40 years but never bothered to prove. On inspection, where any balsa sheet of 1x3x36 has a weight in ozs, the density of that wood will be the same number in lb/cu/ft, in this case, 7oz = 7lb density. In a 1x3x36 block there are 108 cu/in of balsa. 1x3x36=108. In a cu/ft of anything there are 12x12x12 cu/ins = 1728 cu/in. If you divide 1728 by 108 you get 16, the number of ozs in a lb. the relationship is valid. If you have a 1x3x36 that weighs 8ozs, it has a density of 8 lb/cu/ft. A block of balsa 3x3x36 is the same as 3 blocks of 1x3x36 so, if it weighs 18 oz, it is 18/3=6lb wood. If you find a 20oz, 3x4x36 at your hobby shop, buy it.

As for what it is good for, many suggested that it is a more efficient use of wood to mold where possible. I agree and mold about as much as anybody, but you can't mold balsa wing tips. Typically, they must be carved. What weight should we use for carved and hollowed airplane parts? Contest balsa is too valuable to carve. 10lb strip wood is too hard to work. Any wood of reasonable midweight can be used to achieve essentially the same finished weight. I buy misc block cutoffs from Lone Star. they are somewhat random in size but are about 3x3x6 and are sold 6 for....well, let's just say you wouldn't be interested. Too much activity would drive up the price or empty the cutoff bin. About every third block I pick up feels a lighter than most others and indenting it with a fingernail insures it is carvable. I don't think it is necessary to calculate the weight. After carving the outside of the tip, I break its temporary joint with the wing and split the tip into top and bottom halves. Half tips are much easier to hollow than trying to work down into a 2" hole. Hollowing is begun using a Moto-Tool with a drum sanding attachment. I hollow rather ruthlessly, feeling for vibration which tells me I am getting in the "ballpark". Then, as the carving/sanding continues, progress is checked by shining a flashlight on the outside of the carving. Light will begin to show through long before the wood gets too thin. I hollow until the tip is a uniform, fairly bright orange. With most woods, this will be about 3/32" thick. A dull red color is usually 1/8" or more. A bright yellow is a too thin 1/16" (OK in spots, but avoid these spots as you work farther). I sometimes work outside in the shade, but close enough to direct sunlight, that that I can reach out into the sunlight to check thickness.

Regardless of the actual weight of the balsa, my tips almost always come out about 6 grams. I figure the light is an indication of how many wood fibers there are in the way of the light beam and I hollow to a color which represents a desired number of wood fibers. If the wood is very light the same color of penetrating light will give me a thicker carved wall thickness than the same color with denser wood and a thinner wall. In all cases, I figure the strength of the finished parts, with woods of different density, are equivalent, as are their weight. If you carve 6 gram, or lighter, tips, you might not want to pull on them for pull tests. I stabilize the wing tip with one hand, but do my pulling with my other hand, over a wing/fuselage "hard spot".

My point is, that a good carving technique is more important than wood weight, and comparable results in strength and weights can be achieved simply and easily with woods of different density. There is no need to be anal about tip or top block carving to get good results.

Suggestion: Take a flashlight to your wood bin and shine it through a number of different wood thicknesses and densities.

Al

Steve Fitton · Jun 26, 2003 12:54 PM

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"I buy misc block cutoffs from Lone Star. they are somewhat random in size but are about 3x3x6 and are sold 6 for....well, let's just say you wouldn't be interested. Too much activity would drive up the price or empty the cutoff bin. "


Too late! I'm calling Lone Star today!

I've had to expend alot of contest wood for tip or canopy blocks. It would seem my error has been in not ordering sufficient non-contest blocks to get one reasonably soft. My last Lone Star block would have made good material for Sammy Sosa's bat, but not tip blocks. Since I live near Newport News VA, temporary reprieve has been found by scrounging wood at swapmeets. It seems the free flight guys here specialized in dumpster diving in the 1970s when the shipyard here was using balsa in tanker construction. All sorts of odd shaped blocks of very good lightness have been turning up as those guys expire or sell off their wood they know they'll never use. Some of the chunks of wood are large enough to build a log cabin out of, so to get the really good stuff I'll need a very large table saw to make it usable.
I get spoiled using the contest wood, though. Carving is so fast and easy that way, although the finished product is prone to lots of dents from the car, etc.
I do find Lone Star non-contest sheet to be very useful. It seems like it is straighter than the very light stuff, and it is not difficult to find stock perfect for sheet flaps or tail surfaces that is not punitively heavy.

The tip about learning what color light is emitted by various thickness sheets is an excellent idea for training the eye on block hollowing. On my latest project, I finally dremeled through a tip block and it is annoying to have to stop and patch holes.


Steve

Larry Cunningham · Jun 26, 2003 03:50 PM

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Nowadays I surrender to the fact the carving wood is too expensive to waste and I tend to make the wing tip shells out of hard balsa blocks. Forget the round gouge for carving - just use an acorn bit on the Dremel tool (and a mask to stand the sawdust!).

You can make it quite thin, and the weight consequences are small, and the strength is good, particularly after covering with silkspan..

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Al Rabe · Jun 26, 2003 06:37 PM

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Larry, If you split the shaped tips and use the drum sander, you will be able to remove material about as fast as you dare to. (much faster than an acorn bit) Using the light is a near constant when my wall thickness starts to get really thin. Working outdoors near direct sunlight really helps. Carving a top and bottom tip block takes about10 minutes.

Al

Dr Spark · Jun 26, 2003 06:41 PM

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Al. Blocks are not a problem. As Windy (I think) once said, "if you can't see light through your carved block, it's too thick." Not much sense buying 4-6 lb wood for carving unless you don't believe in hollowing it out!

Floyd

Iskandar Taib · Jun 26, 2003 11:03 PM

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Hmmm.. Makes me wonder if hollowed out Rohacell or blue Dow Styrofoam (R) wouldn't be a viable alternative.