Stuka trivia

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LNeumann · Jun 30, 2003 10:14 AM

I am posting this for Matthew.

Most of you know that he likes to come up with unique paint schemes for his Stukas. Here is the latest one. He will probably have it at the Nats, but not flying (hopefully, as it will be serving back-up duties to his other ship.) He doesn't have the wheel pants done or the painted landing gear and spinner to give it full contest dress, and it has only been out a couple of times so isn't trimmed out yet, either. But you can get an idea of what it is going to look like from the pictures.

The question here is for you trivia buffs. This is a paint scheme borrowed from a real Stuka. Does anybody want to venture a guess as to what it represents and the history of the markings before Matt comes in to spill the beans? The only prize, if someone comes up with the answer, will be Matt's applause. But, have at it

Leonard Neumann

JimW · Jun 30, 2003 10:33 AM

#1 source

Could it be an Italian Stuka with the 209th squadron based in Lonate Pozzolo and deployed to North Africa in late 1941. And captured later by the British?

Jim Womack

Jake · Jun 30, 2003 08:07 PM

edited#5 source

LAST EDITED ON Jun-30-03 AT 08:12 PM (CDT)

>Could it be an Italian Stuka with the 209th squadron based
>in Lonate Pozzolo and deployed to North Africa in late 1941.
>And captured later by the British?
>
>Jim Womack

It's 209th (Italian squadron). But...
Not likely the Brits would leave the Italian markings in place (especially on the wing undersides) it was an invitation to get shot at- they should have been further outboard too. All the captured a/c I have seen photo'ed that the Brits (or Americans, or Germans, or Japanese, Italians, etc) test flew had the original nation's markings totally painted over and the user nation's applied. There is a captured B-24D Liberator in solely Italian markings of which I am aware.

John

"It'll probably feel real good again, once it quits hurting".

LNeumann · Jun 30, 2003 09:32 PM

#8 source

>>Could it be an Italian Stuka with the 209th squadron based
>>in Lonate Pozzolo and deployed to North Africa in late 1941.
>>And captured later by the British?
>>
>>Jim Womack
>
>
>It's 209th (Italian squadron). But...
>Not likely the Brits would leave the Italian markings in
>place (especially on the wing undersides) it was an
>invitation to get shot at- they should have been further
>outboard too...(snip)
>
>John

Well, they did. That's the wierd part. Matt has the documentation to show it. But, then, I will let him tell his story.

Leonard Neumann

Jake · Jun 30, 2003 09:49 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Jun-30-03 AT 09:55 PM (CDT)

>>>Could it be an Italian Stuka with the 209th squadron based
>>>in Lonate Pozzolo and deployed to North Africa in late 1941.
>>>And captured later by the British?
>>>
>>>Jim Womack
>>
>>
>>It's 209th (Italian squadron). But...
>>Not likely the Brits would leave the Italian markings in
>>place (especially on the wing undersides) it was an
>>invitation to get shot at- they should have been further
>>outboard too...(snip)
>>
>>John
>
>Well, they did. That's the wierd part. Matt has the
>documentation to show it. But, then, I will let him tell
>his story.

The Brits did (and have done) a lot of odder things (gotta love 'em though! they make some darn nice shotguns!). I'll have to pull up the Vickers Valentia bit they were using against the Germans and Italians in the Desert campaign.

John

PS: Here it is: http://skeet.worldonline.co.uk/valentiacol.html

The "door gunner" had to have a real tall set of gonads...

"It'll probably feel real good again, once it quits hurting".

godzilla · Jun 30, 2003 11:59 AM

#2 source

What's that big black area in the middle of the fuselage?

Ohhhh.....

The City Smasher

cyberflyer · Jun 30, 2003 12:42 PM

Non-trivial Stuka#3 source

Ju-87 of 208th Squadron

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In 1941 the 101th Group (Sqd 208th and 209th) and N.A.T.A.T. (Nucleo Addestramento Tiro A Tuffo) were created, last one based in Lonate Pozzolo.

Italian Stuka

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Italian Stukas:

"Stuka" in the Italian Regia Aeronautica

Picchiatelli over Malta:

Italian Stukas, 1940-42

Junkers Ju.87 "Picchiatello"

Aviolibri Monographs

Stuka shot down by British

WAV audio file of radio report

The Cat Whisperer

GravityWell · Jun 30, 2003 07:48 PM

#4 source

Its one of the ultra secret Stuka's built by the British (at the super secret facility "Stick-Me-Up-One, Over-The-Hill, Cocks-Down Leicester") Just behind the local pub. It was used to bomb non-aligned allied countries to scare them into joining the fray against Uncle Adolph. Unfortunately it was captured by accident by an Italian group that had embibed a little too much wine the night before and landed at the wrong airport. They saw the Stuka and thought it would be a good lark to borrow it from their German counterparts (not realizing it was British) and flew it back to Italy. To say they were puzzled by the English only lettering the next day is of course an understatement.

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