Holland Hornet glow heads

Anybody have a couple spares they want to sell? At one time MECOA was planning to make a run, so I understand- but they backed off of it. Still one of my favorite 1/2As along with the Atwood (oldies here!).

Jake,

I have a line on some reproduction units. But they are made in Red China with slave labor, all profits going to the PLA. Just how badly do you need them?

Dan, I live close enough to a Harbor Freight that I'm not worried about Red China. I understand that the PLA is being downsized to free up workers to make Flitestreak and Nobler ARF's. My real question is do you have a source for Shriek glow heads?

LAST EDITED ON Jul-05-03 AT 06:04 PM (CDT)
 
>Dan, I live close enough to a Harbor Freight that I'm not
>worried about Red China. I understand that the PLA is being
>downsized to free up workers to make Flitestreak and Nobler
>ARF's. My real question is do you have a source for Shriek
>glow heads?
>
>Jim Thomerson

That is what I love about you guys, you actually DO have a sense of humor after all...

JAK

PS to answer DD's question: well, the motor was one GMA started to redo for me and he fell ill and never finished it- Don Blackburn did. Turned 14,570 on an APC 5x2.5 on 5% fuel. Well I'll put it in an airplane, but if I blow the glow head and can't get another pretty much a waste of time; you follow?

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>That is what I love about you guys, you actually DO have a
>sense of humor after all...
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>JAK
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>

As does Larry Cunningham, although I think it has gone over your head.

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>>That is what I love about you guys, you actually DO have a
>>sense of humor after all...
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>>JAK
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>As does Larry Cunningham, although I think it has gone over
>your head.
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>Dan Rutherford

Actually I think he is hitting way low and too far aft...

Holland Hornet heads are pretty rare, I had four of 'em and during a moment of brain dead, sold 'em. I like to find one nice late style,'62-'64 (?) head but you never see those.

How about running a Atwood/Wen-Mac head and std. short plug, use the shreik head for show?

>Holland Hornet heads are pretty rare, I had four of 'em and
>during a moment of brain dead, sold 'em. I like to find one
>nice late style,'62-'64 (?) head but you never see those.
>
>How about running a Atwood/Wen-Mac head and std. short plug,
>use the shreik head for show?
>
>Mark

Yes, original Hornet heads are VERY tough to find now.
As an aside, the original "Baby Flite Streak" used an Atwood for power.

To the best of my knowledge Larry Linsalato at Meccoa did make about 100 of the Hornet 049's a few years ago.
If it was standard practice he probably had some parts to start with and made the rest. Wouldn't doubt it but that he had 100 plugs and that was it. The shriek was sold complete because he found a stash of them.
I remember when he advertised the Cox conquest for sale and I called him. They said that only the crankshafts needed to be made. That took almost 5 years to do. Since they are out of stock now I wouldn't hold my breath on their reappearance too soon.
As to K&B from what I understand not too much of the line is being produced. I do know that they are advertising a K&B 18, however that is made overseas and sold under the K&B name.
Sorry to get off track here. Dennis

> To the best of my knowledge Larry Linsalato at Meccoa did
>make about 100 of the Hornet 049's a few years ago.
>If it was standard practice he probably had some parts to
>start with and made the rest. Wouldn't doubt it but that he
>had 100 plugs and that was it. The shriek was sold complete
>because he found a stash of them.
>I remember when he advertised the Cox conquest for sale and
>I called him. They said that only the crankshafts needed to
>be made. That took almost 5 years to do. Since they are out
>of stock now I wouldn't hold my breath on their reappearance
>too soon.
>As to K&B from what I understand not too much of the line is
>being produced. I do know that they are advertising a K&B
>18, however that is made overseas and sold under the K&B
>name.
>Sorry to get off track here. Dennis

Not off track at all. A couple or so years back there were some guys who went up to Ft. Smith, Arkansas and bought up all the Fox .049 parts left in stock- 55 gal. drums full. Last I heard they were assembling and selling same- this is the same type deal as the "OK Cub .049s" of recent vintage...

...A couple or so years back there were some guys who went up to Ft. Smith, Arkansas and bought up all the Fox .049 parts left in stock- 55 gal. drums full. Last I heard they were assembling and selling same... >John

I understand that the original Fox parts were used up and additional parts were produced. They are still available. Is this still true?

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>Yes, original Hornet heads are VERY tough to find now.
>As an aside, the original "Baby Flite Streak" used an Atwood
>for power.
>
>John

Do you mean the American Junior 'FIRE BABY'? It was powered by a Anderson 'Baby Spitfire' later with a Wasp, then Cub 049X, and finally a Cox. I don't recall a 'Baby Flite Streak' ever made as a 'ARF'

There were two different style glow heads made for the Hornet the first ones were available in three heat ranges, the later only one.

Also, the first Wen-Macs (Bill Atwood design) used Atwood heads.

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>>Yes, original Hornet heads are VERY tough to find now.
>>As an aside, the original "Baby Flite Streak" used an Atwood
>>for power.
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>>John
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> Do you mean the American Junior 'FIRE BABY'? It was powered
>by a Anderson 'Baby Spitfire' later with a Wasp, then Cub
>049X, and finally a Cox. I don't recall a 'Baby Flite
>Streak' ever made as a 'ARF'
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>There were two different style glow heads made for the
>Hornet the first ones were available in three heat ranges,
>the later only one.
>
>Also, the first Wen-Macs (Bill Atwood design) used Atwood
>heads.
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>Mark

No, I'm talking about the original prototype model of the Baby Flite Streak- and you're correct it wasn't (an ARF ever). George used an Atwood on the first model- he seems to have been fond of these as he used them in FF too from what I understand of what he wrote me.

Back in the '70s, I bought a Holland Hornet from Bob Holland. We both worked at Lockheed.

Repro engines tend to be very expensive, with good reason. US labor is pricey and the market must be there to justify getting into production.

Floyd Carter
SAM #188

I have seen Holland Hornets with the original glow head drilled out and a regular glow plug in the center. You also might check with the NFFS as they use it a lot in nostalgia free flight, I believe. May be out in left field here.

Or maybe Doug Galbreath can drill and tap it for a Nelson plug? His adaptors work great for Cox and Norvel engines.