ARF Nobler instructions.

In reading the many and varied comments about the TF Nobler, it seems very few have actually read all the instruction manual that comes with it. Very well written, obviously by Americans in our language, not like some that are translated rather poorly. One note is the Introduction. Quote, second sentence; "Originally designed and flown by the legendary George Aldrich in the 1950's, the Nobler is now recognized as one of the most popular and successful control line stunt models of all time." It goes on to acknowledge George Aldrich two more times. Later, in the Engine & Line recommendations section, it states they flew several test models and used the OS LA .40-S with a Top Flite 11-4 Power Point wood prop.
For comments to the company, such as better lead outs, email them at:[email protected]. Or call 217-398-8970. I highly reccommend that everyone with this model read the entire booklet. It is full of good ideas and suggestions and shows these folks are very serious about the model and others that may follow. This is an American product, that due to costs, was assembled overseas. Such is life in the modern world. You don't have to like it, but you have to acknowledge it. PS;Full size plans are not available.

Looks like a very good deal to me.

Think of what it would cost to pay any of us to assemble them!

(Guess it is time to get to work on the robotic monokote applicator machine..)

Now, one more thing. It's great that lots of folks on this forum have these ships, and appropriate that we share improvements. I know we are going to fly the dickens out of them.

But think: we're still only a small segment of the market. The large majority of folks buying these are going to take them out and plant them, and that is likely the end of it. Reality. (Kind of like the RC ARFs..)

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"I'm not myself today. Maybe I'm you."

Well, Larry, let's hope more of them read the part about contacting "experienced" flyers for help. If we can help one more flyer, then this sport will stay viable just a little longer each time one more joins us. The more local hobby shops that are contacted over this plane, and let them know we exist and are willing to help those that purchase this and the Flite Streak, then the more successful we all will be. But this won't happen, too many nay sayers and complainers about the lhs. Nuff said.

I actually wonder how many of the Nobler Arf purchasers are really complete newbies. At least in the intial batch, I bet we bought them out so fast that the general public didn't have much of a chance.

But if you think about it, a newbie probably loses less in time and money by planting a Nobler Arf than they would with a most 35 size kits.

Hey--maybe I should be payed by the Feds for NOT planting my ARF (as if I had much control over it!).

My lhs still has 2 Noblers sitting there. I've seen a couple of CL guys walk into the store and pass by the kit without paying too much attention to it.

I am sure that someone who decides to try and get back into CL flying, having had prior flying experience, will be very tempted to buy the Nobler instead of a kit or even the Flight Streak.

I think the way the new ARF's audience is as follows:

Flight Streak: teach kids to build and fly CL. Granted it's not really building but today's kits have very short attention span.
Nobler: adults trying to get back into CL after a lengthy absence from modeling.

On the side note: the instructions are very good. I decided to follow them 100% instead of doing things my way just to see if they are any good. They are.

My return to modeling after 20+ years was with a Brodak Nobler I received as a Christmas gift in 2001. I almost had a heart attack when I saw all those balsa blocks, but I went to work on it. I made a number of mistakes on it, it weighs "a ton", and doesn't fly very well.
I have stayed in the hobby, and built several more planes, with each one better than the last. I just wish I would have had the ARF Nobler option for my return airplane, because I would have been much better off at less than half the cost.

I kind of look at it this way....if they do plant it, at least they will be flying a plane that is possible to fly, not one of those Cox plastic things that said anyone eight and over could fly! Just a thought....wouldn't it be nice for kit manufacturers to include in the kit, a list of clubs and URL's for forums like this?