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Regards,
Will Reeb
Yep, have my passport now. After the 6 hour hold up last year, I am prepared.
I'll be there.
Randy Powell
Scott(big piece of basalt)Riese
Scott Riese
Randy Ryan
AMA 8500
SAM 36
I fly 'em all and love it!
Hmm, well, that certainly answers a lot of quesitons.
Will,
Hope we have a good turnout. I don't expect to be particularly competitive. The only ship I have flying right not is the Simons Shoestring. On the other hand, it flies really pretty well.
Randy Powell
Glad to hear the Shoestring is flying well. It's a plane that I want to build too, so I am looking forward to seeing yours this weekend.
Neil Rogers
Edmonton, Alberta
I do have an OS 35FP that would make someone a great paper weight.
Randy Powell
You whiner. First you can't buy or rent a Stunt run. Then a head shim most easily measured with a ruler tames the thing. Then the needle is broken, Chris Cox taking time away from his guests to make an extension. Then it still won't run right. While Mr. Smiley locks your keys in the car.
Look, you could have suffered as did Will Reeb. Or Keith Varley. Or Bruce Perry.
As always, the PAC weekend was great fun.
Dan Rutherford
Aw, c'mon, Dan...fill us in on all the, uh...Dirt. Those of us with insufficient ID and/or funds need to know, what was so darned much fun? I suspect you're still grinnin' from having PW resort your Impact. Did the Border Guards search the incredible Dirt Van? Steve
Rob Duckering....MAAC #14457
Beginner:
1. Allana Perry - 248.5
2. Dave McCheyne - 177.5
3. Bill Ledden - 121.5
Intermediate:
1. Rob Duckering - 473.5
2. Neil Rogers - 450.0
Advanced:
1. Keith Varley - 485.0
2. Mike Conner - 475.5
3. Will Reeb - 433.5
4. Bob Smiley - 428.0
5. Hube Smart - 413.5
6. Dave Richardson - 375.5
Expert:
1. Chris Cox - 548.5
2. Al Resinger - 518.5
3. Bruce Hunt - 512.0
4. Dan Rutherford - 499.5
5. Ken Bird - 497.5
6. Bruce Perry - 447.0
7. Randy Powell - Attemp (door stop disguised as FP40)
Old Time:
1. Chris Cox - 282.5 (once again Cox borrows a plane to win, Keith's)
2. Dan Rutherford - 280.5
3. Keith Varley - 269.25
4. Mike Conner - 254.0
5. Rob Duckering - 209.0
6. Bill Ledden - 177.75
Bruce Hunt
Salem, OR
This is high zoot OSFP35. Let's be clear. 
Well, I did get two, count 'em, two really good runs on the thing on Sunday morning. As is typical for me lately, the thing was great for those two flights, then puked on the first official. The problem is, it runs great just often enough for me to keep fiddling with it. If the thing would just be consistently bad, I'd pitch and put something else in.
Additional thought seems to indicate that it may just be cooling related. It was a lot cooler on Sunday morning and baking during my first official. May try cutting some additional exhaust holes in the cowl and try it one more time. At least an OS 46LA will drop right in as will a Rustler 40 with just a bit of modification for the muffler. So, if it still won't go after the cooling holes are cut, then it does become a doorstop and a new engine goes in.
But I still had a good time in spite of some of the nonsense.
Randy Powell
Will Reeb was flying in the early evening on Friday night. There had been a wind, but it was very nearly calm. Will was flying plenty high, just being cautious, when he found nobody home in second corner of second outside square. The model rotated through 90 degrees, no problem. The wake from previous trip through the square was a big problem: the model dropped like a stone, hitting flat against the asphalt. Screwed it up something fearsome.
Bruce Perry had a nicad-based glow battery fail during start-up in first round of Expert PA. (I don't know how you guys can stand to use those things, but I will admit they are popular.) He dropped two positions in the order, ran out of fuel a bit prematurely.
While awaiting the second round it was all fun 'n games asking the top flyer on the 2004 Canadian W/Cs team how many attempts he would be needing in order to put up one official. So we all felt kinda small when Bruce started the motor for his final attempt, stood up and had a paper towel go through the prop. That was that, although I must say Bruce was ever the sportsman about it.
And Keith Varley? Well, Mr. Reeb was flying Keith's 2003 Saturn when he (re)discovered the wisdom in taking one step back between maneuver segments.
Dan Rutherford
P.S. While I didn't actually edit any of above text, I do wish to add that Keith Varley has purchased a new computer and has even been visiting this site over the last few days.
Will Reeb
I do not want to take any credit for the great bash on Saturday evening. This was solely Joan's doing (with some help from daughter Brenda) and what an amazing job she did. Did I ever luck in with this lady!
Dan, how was the border crossing Sunday evening? Did doing dinner at the "Flying Beaver" give time for the border traffic to diminish? How did you make out Randy/Bob?
Bruce and Kristen stayed the extra night so I suspect the border was a breeze Monday morning.
Look forward to seeing you all again next year. We know my deck will hold 25 people now. Lets try for 30 next year!
Chris
You STILL away from work?!
We all agreed, privately, that you had little to do with the dinner party Saturday evening. Further, all of us have the sense that with Joan you definitely "married up."
The deck. The one used for the deck party. It needs further reinforcement. A couple more vertical posts would make me feel a lot better...
Ideally, and based upon the draw they had this year, the CL Racing folk could get by nicely in starting at 9:00am, practicing for an hour, flying for another hour, turning the circle over to Stunt no later than 11:00. Okay, we give 'em an extra hour. Still, can't we run both OTS and Classic on Saturday? And then all-PA, all the time, on Sunday.
If manpower is a problem, I'm glad to run a watch, punch a lap counter. As is Heavy Stunt. And others.
Of course, we could make a formal request to Bruce Perry and Crew that they stay away as otherwise the entry level goes too high. Right, bad idea.
Funny you should ask about Sunday evening at the Flying Beaver. Yes, I wasted enough time there that from full stop to I'm-outta-here was a mere 33 minutes.
However, I must in all candor tell you I do not enjoy places like that at all. Too much background noise, music is loud enough one can hardly converse, yet not loud enough to really enjoy just the music. Pretty good food, however.
Payback for dragging me north to the FB while I wanted to go south:
Al Resinger had totalled his Beringer Sukhoi, so he drug out a Firecracker, that huge white one many have seen and which PTG once proclaimed to be "...a big-a** airplane!" Needing fuel and having mostly YS 20/20 on hand, Al had been feeding it to his ST60. Yep, sounds like a real bad idea; but it was working and Al was quite enthused as the extra power had transformed his airplane into the Real Deal.
Seeing this, and due to receive a couple cases of YS 20/20 himself, yet having recently switched back to a 40VF, Chris thought it a good idea to follow Al's lead. Snicker...
Started nicely, needled properly. Immediately went lean in the air. This most certainly DID NOT get better as the flight went on. At about the 2-minute mark the VF was begging for mercy and the power level had dropped to the point where Chris simply landed and taxied around the circle. Al popped it with a rag as it went by.
I do not believe I have ever seen a motor get that hot. Amazing. We eventually got good fuel in the tank, started the motor, needled it in and Chris flew. No discernible degradation in performance.
Do not try this at home.
Finally, the early flight around Richmond and Bounday Bay in Wilbur was great fun. So many sensations and memories came flooding back. I'll tell ya more, along with the real reason I so enjoyed the Aeronca, next time we are together. You'll be surprised...
Dan Rutherford
Actually, like you, I am at work (on a break )
Yes, I admit I did marry up, but hey, Joan could have done worse too. For example, she could have married you.
Your proposed schedule sounds fine to me. All we need to do is convince others who require convincing.
As long as Bruce continues to bring dead batteries, insufficient fuel and over-size paper towels, he'll always be welcome here in B.C.
I am in full agreement with you regarding back-ground (front-ground?) noise at the Beaver, but you must admit having the float aircraft taking-off and landing from the river right in front of us is kind of cool. Oh, and I did notice you taking in other sights that happened to catch your eye.
OK, OK, the YS20/20 experiment was a bad idea. But past experience has indicated that the VF will run on most anything, not to mention it is pretty much bullet-proof. Don't forget, RC'ers have been flying VF's for years on far more nitro and equal or less oil content, so I'm still a little perplexed by the less than satifactory results. Oh well, live and learn.
Your flight in Wilbur was probably about my 234th local flight doing the same. Loved every one!
Chris
Our border crossing was fine at peak time. About 50 minutes from stop to get outta Dodge. And we even had a pleasant and polite border guard. Very suspicious. I suppose I should report it to INS.
Had car problems on the way home (about how my weekend went). But by that time I just said, "it figures". Turned out to be a bad vac line. Man, I just once would like to have things work when I come up there. I'm sure it's some sort of Canadian plot.
Figured out the problem with the Shoestring and have had several fine flights with the doorstop; now a real stunt engine. Thanks to Pat Johnston. He had the answer. I hate it when he's always right.
Randy Powell
Randy,
Share and share alike, please. Unless you are saving some stuff back for a future Design column in Stunt News.
Dan Rutherford
Let's just say heat was the issue and there have been some changes in the nose of the SS.
Randy Powell
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CCC,
Yep. And I am willing to lay down good money that says a fair amount of the scenery was illusory. Good service, however.
As I left I gave you US$20.00 for my dinner and ale. Can you mail the change to me? No coins, please. Or I might be persuaded to take some of that YS 20/20 off your hands. A whole bunch of us know for certain you have no use for it now. And as soon as Al's ST60 blows up from use of this fuel, he won't need it.
Bruce Perry,
Should you be following along here, a copy of my invoice from Klett was mailed to you on Monday. Sorry about the missed messages.
Dan Rutherford
Neil Rogers
Edmonton, Alberta
Dan - If YS 20/20 is good enough for John, it's definately good enough for me. I'm heading back to the field following work to try it again!! Well, maybe not.
So Randy, are you going to come up at least one more year? I think I'd understand if you said no. On the other hand I can assure you there is no Canadian conspiracies at work. You seem to be very capable of thwarting your efforts all on your own 
Yes, it was great to have Ken Bird back. I suspect we will be seeing much more of him again.
Chris
CCC,
While I certainly do not wish to be mean-spirited about this, it was not that long ago Mr Leidle was having exceedingly poor results with YS 20/20 fuel. And he was using it in a Saito 56.
Evidently he spoke with that Pat Johnston fellow as he too was having the same sort of cooling problems as Randy.
Dan Rutherford
Dirt
HA! John's my pal forever.
CCC
Randy - Next time we get together, ask me about some of my car adventures when traveling to/from contests. I have a few real beauties. Right Dan?
Chris
Oooops! Caught me with a poor choice in wording. What I should have said was "...while using YS 20/20 fuel Mr. Leidle was having exceedingly poor results." On to blah, blah, blah about Randy, cooling problems, cowls carved up with more outlet area, etc.
Still, as I understand it, the runs were fine.
So everybody knows, one of the more salient reasons I have for holding the Saito 56 in high regard as a very durable piece of work are the exploits of John Leidle. Prior to his removing the cowling and then reworking it, I was at the field and saw several of his "not fine" runs. That motor was lean, it was hot, it was being thrased without mercy. John and I discussed the problem, he fixed it and the motor came alive with no apparent loss of performance. Tough, tough motors...
But just so I am sure about the end result, exactly how fine are the runs now? I mean, we know they are fine; can you quantify this a bit?
Chris,
I think that one run with your 40VF and YS 20/20 fuel was an anomoly. If I were you the test would be run again. And again. And again...
Dan Rutherford
Much like John, I had some cooling problems with the Saito in my current plane. It was fine while the weather was under 80 degrees (that's Fahrenheit for you northern types), but in really hot weather, I had pretty much the same results as John. Some temporary elevator extensions and no cowl and it flew great in 95F weather.
So, it's undergoing some surgery...
As has been noted repeatedly, the formula isn't too tough. 1 to 2 ratio, inlet to exhaust. Less than that and it makes a nice airdam. Seems easy, but I have 2 planes that somehow I blew this on. Luckily, it's easily corrected.
Randy Powell
Yea, I'll just blame it on the Dirt. I'm sure he stuffed something in the cowl inlet.
Nope, just bad luck. I'll likely be back.
Randy Powell