Control Line on water

I sorta recall a FM issue (late80's/early 90's) that had some C/L airplanes with floats. Also I believe the issue had some other C/L neat stuff........A scale carrier for take-offs/arrested landings etc. Does anyone have a such issue? Or any other info on braving the water!!! Rob c

I can't help you out with the article you mentioned but I recall an article in MAN a very long time ago (mid to late 50's?) where they were flying models of Schnieder (sp?) Trophy racers which were all on floats.

Best, Hoovie

Again, I can't help with the article. However, c/l off water is very practical. I remember an aussie nationals back in the eighties where it was flown. One bloke turned up with an old stunter to fly 'stunt'. Found out it was eligible for classic too so he flew it there. Then heard about the float plane event, strapped on some floats and flew it there as well.

There they used a shallow pond without an island so you had to stand in the water but there was talk of another site with an island to stand on.

Our holiday house is on a very shallow bay - for a large part of the tide, the water is knee deep. I am very tempted ...

Back in the late 60s/early 70s, I used to fly a Piper Cub looking airplane on floats. There was a lake outside of Whitehorse (Yukon Territory) called Little Long Lake (cause it was littler than the other lake called Long Lake;)) It had a long spit of sand that ran out into the lake. My buddy and I would walk out to the end of the spit and fly from there. What a blast. Don't know how many times that plane got a good soaking, but we would reel it in, dry it off best we could, and go fly again! Don't remember much about the plane and floats except the plane was a M.A.N. trainer of the time and the floats were made of foam. I think a friend of mine made them out of urethane foam; I do remember that the foam was a two part mixture. I do remember that it was covered in monocote. I think that helped somewhat in the waterproofing department! Give it a try, you'll thank yourself!

>Again, I can't help with the article. However, c/l off water
>is very practical. I remember an aussie nationals back in
>the eighties where it was flown. One bloke turned up with an
>old stunter to fly 'stunt'. Found out it was eligible for
>classic too so he flew it there. Then heard about the float
>plane event, strapped on some floats and flew it there as
>well.
>
>There they used a shallow pond without an island so you had
>to stand in the water but there was talk of another site
>with an island to stand on.
>
>Our holiday house is on a very shallow bay - for a large
>part of the tide, the water is knee deep. I am very tempted
>...
>
>Cheers
>Richard

Off water C/L has been around a long time. One of the neat parts about it is even if you crash- all that happens (usually) is the model gets dunked. Vern Clements had the "Sure Fun" seaplane in a late '50s MAN. The Savoia Marchetti SM-79 flying boat was in Flying Models in the '70s. Paul Plecan's Macchi-Castoldia MC-72 was in Air Trails in '52. The club that was doing the Schneider Cup bit was Italian as I recall. Their models were beautiful- later they went on to R/C.
Fred Cronenwett has done a lot of seaplane stuff- including electric Scale. I loaned him my Macchi plans, and heard he was working on an electric powered Short Sunderland flying boat too.

>I can't help you out with the article you mentioned but I recall an article in MAN a very long time ago (mid to late 50's?) where they were flying models of Schnieder (sp?) Trophy racers which were all on floats.
>Best, Hoovie

I remember the MAN article. The plane featured was a Supermarine S-6B powered by a GH Torp .09 or .15 (both sizes were allowed). I THINK the club holding the events were in the NW part of the USA.
I have the plans and the GH Torp .09 I was going to put in it. Still on my To-Do list. So many planes, so little time.

George

Update: Oops, sorry Currell. Your posting #10 didn't show until my browser refreshed when I posted. MAN Sept '58.

Check out Model Aviation, October 2002 issue. Very extensive article on the subject. The cover has a beautiful red Fireball on silver floats. Lots of nice pictures and some discussion on C/L float dynamics. Heck, I have enough problems flying over grass, these folks are certifiable

Now come to think of it....I have this old 40's looking racing plane in mind! Long red (cavalier) SP? with red floats. Ringmaster with liter bottles full of expand/foam for floats????? Ha Thanks GENTS!! RobC

There is an article in the January, 1999 issue of MODEL AVAITION also.

Some club in the NW have dug a semicircular pond, which they use for ROW C/L events every year.

>Some club in the NW have dug a semicircular pond, which they
>use for ROW C/L events every year.

That is on the field (I THINK) where they hold the NW Regionals. Somewhere I had some photos Fred Cronenwett e-mailed me showing some of the planes in action on the ROW pond at one of the meets ('99 or so). There was his Piper J-3 Cub (electric-converted R/C ARF) and a Boeing "China Clipper" four engine electric, plus a Sig Magnum on floats. Real cool stuff!

Model Airplane News, Sep '58, featured a long article entitled "Schneider Trophy Racer..In Miniature". The models, all of course with floats, were powered with K & B Greenhead .09s or .15s, fitted with throttles, and flew on 35' lines (.012"). Scale was 1 inch to the foot. I would say that the .09 underpowered them some, although the article said there was little difference between the two motors! At that time, they had 17 models flying (not all different). The short lines helped general flyability, I would think.

I'll send a copy to anyone who would like it. Currell