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Weight of S-1A Ringmaster?

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Flyin_Again · Jul 01, 2001 10:42 AM

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Last night I finally decided to weigh my S-1A Ringmaster that I built last year.

It weighs in at 32.5 ounces with a OS 35-S Engine and one of Leonards Dustbin type mufflers.

Is this in the ballpark for a decent weight?

The wings are covered with 5mm silk and the plane is finished in Brodak's dope.

Thanks, Guys...Just curious!

Bill

Currell · Jul 01, 2001 10:07 PM

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I make the Ring. to be about 383 squares. This gives you about 12.2 oz/ sq ft for a wing loading. It is more or less in the middle; certainly not exceptionally light, which would put the loading in single digits, but not a hog either. (A 10 ounce/sq. ft Ring. would be about 26.5 ounces, by the way).

Having said that, my Super Ring. (identical wing) weighs within 0.5 ounces of yours, and flies well, I think, although I haven't done much with it yet.

Just flew it yesterday. Johnson "S". Nice setup.

Currell

RocketCityJim · Jul 02, 2001 01:34 PM

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My Ringmaster is covered with silkspan and now I wish that I had covered it with Polyspan. It is painted with Rustolem and weighs in at a whopping 25&1/2 ounces with a Veco .19BB as power.

Jim Pollock

Crapshoot · Jul 02, 2001 01:58 PM

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I've got one I built a good while back using mostly kit wood. Just a mere 39 OZ. Nicknamed it "No Weigh Jose". No way it will ever be a "sterling" performer but if you keep the maneuvers big it does okay.

bb36dd966 · Jul 01, 2001 11:38 PM

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Considering you are using silk, no, that is close to what they usually weigh. The best way to keep the weight down is by choosing the balsa very carefully. Not easy to do in most hobby shops. Use silkspan for covering. In my experience starting in the fifties, silk always used more dope than silkspan, but is no where as strong. I always thought of the Ringmaster as a trainer, slow combat, rough treatment plane, so silk is good here. If that OS Max is typical, it will pull the plane with a 10/5 or 10/6 no sweat. However, landings will need to be "hot" to keep it on the ground first touch, some down elevator, until friction slows it to a stop. In grass, just land it.

geoffgg · Jul 02, 2001 05:40 AM

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>In my experience starting in the fifties,
>silk always used more dope
>than silkspan, but is no
>where as strong.

Hey BB...are you saying silkspan is stronger? I always thought Silk was stronger but slighter heavier. I have been planning to use silk on a couple of trainers I'm building. Do I proceed?

Cheers, Geoff

mrwhizkers · Jul 02, 2001 07:02 PM

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Silk is a little heavier. It's also a lot stronger. A good compromise is Thermalspan or Polyspan. I prefer Thermalspan myself as it is non-directional and will heat stretch around wing tips much more easily. If you are "heavy-handed", as am I, or fly on a rough field I suggest saving silkspan for wings with a sheeted leading edge as this is where most holes seem to appear first.