How do you think it will look??

I am planningon building another 4s Plane. I want to do something a little different than most of the Standard looking Stint planes out there. I was thinking of going with really wide Fuse. Say 4" wide.

Here is my question.

Will it look better if it is 4" wide at the front and then a flat front area with a 3" or 2.5" spinner sticking out. Like a Cap or and Edge 540 like you see in RC? Or will it look better if I just fair in the Spinner to the fuse like we do on our current stunt planes?

Just wondering how you guys think it will turn out?

Maybe it's just me, but I tire quickly of the sameness of all those CAPs and Extras that they use in RC.

Doug,

4" sounds kind of extreme, but I think 3" will look just fine...

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What's the plane in the picture? Looks like an Ercoupe.

I've always thought the Edge and Extra fuselages look ugly, with the really wide front tapering towards the tail. Like a backwards-flying wedge.

Then again, I think the "square chin" look of the 4S stunters I've seen look pretty ugly, too. I'd rather see the cylinder sticking out of a more aerodynamically sleek looking cowl than a "square chin". Would mounting the engine on its side make it run any worse?

The plane in the picture is either a Bob Palmer "Mars" or a lookalike of same. Bob Palmer is not the builder of shown plane. The Mars is OTS.

The plane in the picture seems to be a modified Mars, and (best information available indicates) it was built probably in 1952 or 1953. The builder is one Lionel V. ('Mac') MacDonald, of Burlington Ontario, and is one of five C/L planes he donated to our local R/C club (to which I belong, since they own the C/L circle). Four of his planes are being donated to the MAAC museum, but I got to keep this one to restore and fly. I hope to be ready to fly it for the first time next weekend.

Mr. MacDonald is still very much with us (80 years old), and I'm hoping he'll be able to come out and see it fly. It needed very little restoration work - just a good cleaning and some patches on the stab/el...

Doug,
Sounds like your ready for the tony. It`s 4.062 wide.Ha! What do you think?

Gordy
Ps. This is my putor but jobellcrank used it and I can`t get his name off,so I can post under my own name.

Doug,
4" sounds wider than it is.. Most 60+ stunters are already almost 2.5" wide. Here is a picture of an airplane that I had at the 1983 Nats. The airplane was based on Claude Piel's "CP-90" and was painted like the "French Connection" airplanes. Power was a ST60 and it flew great.. I have better pictures, but I found this one fast.

>Doug,
>Sounds like your ready for the tony. It`s 4.062 wide.Ha!
>What do you think?
>
>Gordy
>Ps. This is my putor but jobellcrank used it and I can`t get
>his name off,so I can post under my own name.

I hate to place this comment here because I should (and probably will) e-mail you directly, but, in case others experience the same problem (I often post from Matt's computer, for instance, under my own name) all you need to do is go to the top left of the forum where it says, "Log out". Click there to log out, and then log back in under your own username and password.

If you don't remember, you can get a new jumbled password automatically sent to you, or send me an e-mail.

Doug,

Or, you could build Pat Johnston's new 4 stroke Bearcat. 6" Diameter radial cowl. Definately, a fat boy. Very cool looking too. And it flies very very well. Even has dihedral.

I have seen it. It is RAD!

I think I am going with my own style this time. Like my Furias, that noone really got to see.

But only larger. Should have a better wing to fuse ratio that is bit more in line with each other.

Doug,

Well, I had planed to build a Reno Air Racer version of a Mustang. Pat had wanted me to build it (I already finished the plans) and paint it like his American Eagle Bearcat. Personally, I think this was mostly just to irritate a certain Mustang flier around here. So I decided against it.

I do agree that once you build a plane with a more realistic (read in proportion) fuselage, you really don't want to go back to a more classic appearence. And they are easier to see from the handle.

Doug said:

>I am planningon building another 4s Plane. I want to do
>something a little different than most of the Standard
>looking Stint planes out there. I was thinking of going
>with really wide Fuse. Say 4" wide.
>
Really.....I heard that 4 strokes don't work and it is a mistake to use them in stunt. Maybe you should reconsider this foolishness and go back to your Fox 35 stuff!!!!

Ouch. Paul don't tell me this. I just moved over to the dark side and should have my Saito .56 Legacy in the air soon. I also have an Impact that was designed by some other Stunt God and bought a .72 for it.

Paul.

Maybe not so far back, but one of those antiques like those old PA.61's or .65's with a relic called "tuned pipe"...

As the young fellow you are you might not know what the heck I'm talking about...

In Christ,

> Really.....I heard that 4 strokes don't work

Really? I heard that too! Who did you hear it from?

>
>Will it look better if it is 4" wide at the front and then a
>flat front area with a 3" or 2.5" spinner sticking out.
>Like a Cap or and Edge 540 like you see in RC? Or will it
>look better if I just fair in the Spinner to the fuse like
>we do on our current stunt planes?
>
>Just wondering how you guys think it will turn out?

4" isn't that wide!!

You might be surprised after flying a plane like that for a year or so how a "normal" stunter will then look like a pencil from the handle..

Go for it....The only problem is that it does require more wood and paint, and thus a little more weight....But I find it worth it.

Ron B.
F4Fguy

Go For It!The wildcat is almost 6" wide and 9" deep at the cockpit.
That tiny engine is a Tigre 60.When the engine is buried this far inside,cooling air management can be a problem,as can muffler/exhaust configuration.Note the ducting which directs cooling air around the cylinder and out the cooling gills.

>Ron B.
>F4Fguy
>
>Go For It!The wildcat is almost 6" wide and 9" deep at the
>cockpit.
>That tiny engine is a Tigre 60.When the engine is buried
>this far inside,cooling air management can be a problem,as
>can muffler/exhaust configuration.Note the ducting which
>directs cooling air around the cylinder and out the cooling
>gills.
>
>Ron B.

GORGEOUS!!!!! WOW!!! YUPEEE!!!

You gotta be that friend of Al Raabe that lost points because the plane didn't shine...

In Christ,

Doug
How about an Avro Shackleton cowl, its big and looks cool.
Andrew Raney

DOUG,
YOUR SKILLS SHOULD PRODUCE A VERY GOOD ZERO. ZEEK A6M5C. ROUND MOTORS ARE FOR REAL AIRPLANES.

DICK

>DOUG,
> YOUR SKILLS SHOULD PRODUCE A VERY GOOD ZERO. ZEEK A6M5C.
>ROUND MOTORS ARE FOR REAL AIRPLANES.
>
>DICK

Ron B.
F4Fguy

Here's mine.

Zeke 22,A6M3
700+ sq.in.
O.S.70 Surpass
78 0z.(ouch!)