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OS .40 engine overhaul and conversion to c/l

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PeterH · Jul 18, 2001 09:05 AM

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I have struck a deal for, but do not yet have possession of, a runout baffle-piston OS .40 (40S?) ballbearing r/c engine (not enough compression to support a reliable idle). I know where I can get an appropriate venturi, nva, bearings, and a ring, but I don't have any other parts to support overhauling this thing, like gasket sets, connecting rod, or piston/liner/piston pin.
So, my query has two parts:
(1) I am fishing for what I can find in the way of bits and pieces. Anybody have any NOS parts he'd be willing to sell me?
(2) Maybe I should ask this first, will overhauling this engine for c/l be worth my trouble?

Many thanks.

LNeumann · Jul 18, 2001 09:14 AM

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It can be made into a good sport control line engine, but parts generally cost more than the engine. If you are needing to do as much as you say, it may not be worth it as good runners of this type can still be found at a reasonable price.

Leonard Neumann

The Kiwi · Jul 18, 2001 09:47 AM

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My own 40's like that one are ringed piston engines. When the compression goes, you install a new ring, not a new piston. The company's name for the engine model is the Max-H 40.


The K.


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bkruger · Jul 18, 2001 10:08 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-18-01 AT 10:15 AM (EST)

>I have struck a deal for,
>but do not yet have
>possession of, a runout baffle-piston
>OS .40 (40S?) ballbearing r/c
>engine (not enough compression to
>support a reliable idle).
>I know where I can
>get an appropriate venturi, nva,
>bearings, and a ring, but

Peter;

A couple of things on the Max-H 40. Firstly, a ring replacement is usually all you need to get one of these to restore compression. Frank Bowman makes replacement rings for these engines at minimal cost. Frank or Leonard can get/make for you a venturi (Leonard's works well on my Max-H 40). Leonard also has long ST type NVAs that worked well on my Max-H 40s.

The only things that I would worry about is the shape of the crank bearings and any conrod/wrist pin play. A way to check the conrod/wrist pin is to give the engine a good shot of oil to help seal the compression better. Turn it over by hand. As you come past TDC, you shouldn't feel much play between push and pulling the piston. The Max-H 40 had a bushed conrod, and they usually hold up well. If there is a lot of click, the engine needs a new conrod, and there aren't too many of them out there for sale. As for the crank bearings, that is a more subjective call. I have one Max-H 40 that felt rough when I got it, but a little running and it was just fine.

Total cost to convert this engine (with venturi, NVA, and new ring, plus postage) will run between $30 - $45. Add that to the cost of the engine outright. You will have to make the call if this is worth the cost to convert or to buy a new engine. If you do decide to get it, I am not sure what kind of fuel most will recommend, but I like 5% nitro and 25% all castor lube fuel. These older engines don't always hold up well with the synthetics or synthetic blends. Lost compression now due to synthetic lube and low lube content/percentage could be the reason the engine is getting weak on compression. All castor is messier, but the engines seem to hold up.

Bob

PeterH · Jul 18, 2001 11:43 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-18-01 AT 11:47 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON Jul-18-01 AT 11:44 PM (EST)

Thanks for the comments, everybody. I appreciate the collective concern that I might be fixing to go and spend more on this engine than I would receive from its use. The purchase price was so right that I'm willing to gamble on what I find inside. At worst I'll have spent movie money and gotten an evening's entertainment taking this thing apart and cleaning it. If I get lucky, a ring, a pair of bearings, and a gasket set gets the thing running again, plus a venturi and NVA, and I've had a couple of fun evenings building up another engine.

So, anybody have any parts sleeping in the back of his junk drawer?

Steve Helmick · Jul 19, 2001 12:41 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-19-01 AT 00:43 AM (EST)

Because it is an OS, you might try Big Art Adamisin. If he can't re-bush a rod, he should know who can. You could get his address or email addy from the PAMPA website. Steve

bkruger · Jul 19, 2001 12:38 PM

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>that I might be fixing
>to go and spend more
>on this engine than I
>would receive from its use.

Not necessarily concern... We thought you should know what all is involved before undertaking. Some of us (myself included) just like to fiddle with stuff. Let the truth be known, we would all fly better if we fiddled less and flew more. However, fiddling's fun...

>lucky, a ring, a pair
>of bearings, and a gasket
>set gets the thing running
>again, plus a venturi and
>NVA, and I've had
>a couple of fun evenings
>building up another engine.

Do you know for sure that the bearings are bad? You can make gaskets from aluminum can stock for the head, and playing cards for the backplate.

>So, anybody have any parts sleeping
>in the back of his
>junk drawer?


Max-H parts are rare enough now that that you may have a problem finding some. Bearings are non existant, and there are no easy replacements. Unless you know for sure the bearings are shot, you might try running what you have. A little luck is a good thing...

Enjoy the Max-H 40.

Bob