Bill Little · Oct 08, 2003 02:03 PM
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TIA
Bill
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The airplane Lew flew "in the day" was significantly larger than the Jetco Kit. How much, what else was different, etc, is an open question.
I'm not sure which model you are referring to, but I beleive the red/white/blue model with the diagonal trim on the tips is the 1963 NATs winning airplane, refinished.
Brett
When I talked to Lew when I was building my Shark he referred to that one as a Shark +10%, and yes the decking on it is different. I beleive that one had the removable tips for transportation to the 1966 or 1968 FAI Internats. Lew said he doesn't like computers but has one and reads the forums occasionally. Maybe he will post something about this particular airplane.
Jim Pollock
...the Great White.
The Cat Whisperer

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Thanks,
Bill P.
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I may remember wrong, but I think that even McFarland's AMA number was duplicated on the wing.
It wasn't a real accurate rendition, but it definitely was a Shark copy.
Currell
This airplane is an absolute *killer*. Whitley regularly kicked butt with it in both Classic and real stunt (and I know because I was frequently the kickee).
Brett
American Modeler, July 1961 has a full page 3-view drawing of the Shark 35 to about 1/8 full size. The drawings show structure details, wing and stabilizer airfoil sections are laid out on a 1/2" grid. The drawings appear accurate enough that could be blown up to make a technically correct Classic legal design. The plans state span of 52", length 40-3/4", area 575 sq in, stab area 105 sq in. Plans also showed 30 degrees flap travel for 35 degrees elevator travel. Bob Whitely was very competitive with his rendition against any Classic or Expert/Open competition for several years.
Keith

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Funny you should ask, but I just happen to have a plan for a "35 size" shark that is a Shark 45 reduced to a 42 inch span. I would really consider it more suitable for a 20 to a 35 size engine. Perhaps a reduction to 50 or 52 inches would have been more in order for a "true" 35 size. I may have to see what I can do about that.
Leonard Neumann
Gorgeous. A work of art.
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"I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect had intended for us to forego their use." -Galileo
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Ken,
I went and pulled that copy and there was only the Shark 45 in that issue. At least it gives me a point of knowing which half of my old mags to look in.
Tom McClain
I'll bet Pond's had a copy of the plans, but they are in the AMA archives now and who knows when we will ever see them again.
Does anyone have an actual copy of the Shark 35 plans as published by AMA or a copy of the July 1961 issue that they can make a scan or photocopy from?
Another option would be to take Pat Johnston's CAD of the Shark 45 and reduce it in size to about that of the Shark 35. Of course, the wood sizes would be off, as would rib placement, etc., but at least it would give the correct outlines.
I know Jetco kitted the Shark 45. Didn't they also kit the Shark 35?
Regards - Bob Kruger


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Interesting. I took Pat Johnston's plans and made an 88% copy of them. This was the ratio it took to get from 58 5/8" span to 52.5". Keeping the same aspect ratio, the total wing area for the reduced Shark was 540. Add one inch to the inboard panel (Pat built his with equal span) and you add about 11 sqi for a total of 550sqi. The reduced Shark has a fuselage length of about 39.5 inches. Stab/elevator area comes in at 105. So, it looks as if Lew kept the same basic moments, areas, and ratios between the two.
Note - wing area was difficult to judge - especially with rounded tips and flaps, until the advent of CAD. I have drafted up some stuff in CAD from original plans and found that the estimated areas sometimes 10% off. Usually, the older estimates were higher than the actual as calculated in CAD. Considering the similarity in linear dimensions between my 88% Johnston Shark 45 and what you quoted from the Dixon plans, I would suspect that the wing area calculation back when the plans were first published was just off a little bit. I may order a set of plans from Dixon just to check them out and see how close they come to what Pat drew.
Bob Kruger
Currell
I'm not trying to sell it right now
I'm just letting the cat out of the bag.
watch for it over in the classifieds
anyway here's the prototype sample parts
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