How'd you say it?

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TigreST · Jul 22, 2001 09:59 PM

LAST EDITED ON Jul-22-01 AT 10:02 PM (EST)

Ladies and Germs,
How would you pronounce Schnuerle as in Schnuerle-ported? For years I've been saying "Sure-null". But looking closer it ain't' seeming rite to thas hair boy, ...know wut I mean Vern? Got any other language barriers we need to disk-cuss?

Tony

Mark Mitchell · Jul 22, 2001 10:04 PM

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For twenty five years I have always heard it pronounced "shnerlee". Whether this is anything close to the original word (German?) is anybody's guess. Probably not.

currell · Jul 22, 2001 10:35 PM

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I think Mark is correct. I took a little German in school. I'll try phonetically:

SCHNUR lee

(emphasis on first syllable)

I think.

currell

Fred Krueger · Jul 23, 2001 12:04 PM

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Mark and Currell are correct. Basically, German doesn't use silent letters so Schnuerle has 2 sylables. The 'ue' is the same as an umlauted 'u' (2 dots over the u) and is used interchangeably. The 'ue' sound is different to the English speaking ear. The sound can be made by pursing the lips upward and making a short 'ee' sound.

Fred

elmores · Jul 23, 2001 02:37 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Jul-23-01 AT 04:14 AM (EST)

My vote goes for Shhhh (as in be quiet) with Knurle (as in a criss cross pattern on a bolt) on the end.

I've also heard it pronounced shnurler/shnurluh but never any of the above with lee on the end.

gcb · Jul 23, 2001 06:53 AM

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I've heard it pronounced snurl and snur-lee. Don't feel bad, we all have trouble with it. The first Fox .15's that used this porting had it spelled "Schneurle" on the box. Of course they later changed it.
George

Peter Hess · Jul 23, 2001 10:59 AM

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Tony Elmore has it just about right with "Shnurluh" if you want to pronounce it in more or less correct German. To get even closer, in German the "ue" combination would be written as a "u" with an umlaut above it. That means that you should try to pronounce a "u" and an "e" simultaneously, a sound that is essentially unknown in English and takes some practice. Unfortunately, if you go to the trouble of trying to promounce it in something approaching correct hoch Deutsch, people here in the states will probably give you a strange look and correct you.

elmores · Jul 23, 2001 11:26 AM

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Hi Peter.

I suspect I do say it right - just can't write it down properly phonetically!

Tony

currell · Jul 23, 2001 03:06 PM

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>Tony Elmore has it just about
>right with "Shnurluh" if you
>want to pronounce it in
>more or less correct German.
> To get even closer,
>in German the "ue" combination
>would be written as a
>"u" with an umlaut above
>it. That means that
>you should try to pronounce
>a "u" and an "e"
>simultaneously, a sound that is
>essentially unknown in English and
>takes some practice. Unfortunately,
>if you go to the
>trouble of trying to promounce
>it in something approaching correct
>hoch Deutsch, people here in
>the states will probably give
>you a strange look and
>correct you.

OK: We'll try again. We'll Delphi this thing eventually:

SCHNUR luh (making the "U" sound a bit strange)

And don't you just hate it when they call that rear engined wonder a:

PORCH

instead of :

POR shuh ??

Currell

Peter Hess · Jul 23, 2001 03:27 PM

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Yes. And would it not be nice if people would say "Folksvaagen" instead of the abomination that usually passes as identifying those wehicles?

gcb · Jul 24, 2001 05:32 AM

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Gee, I thought it was pronounced V W

George

Peter Hess · Jul 24, 2001 06:59 AM

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That, too, is acceptable to the linguistic police.

currell · Jul 23, 2001 03:07 PM

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Tony: This can't be, because the final "e" is not silent.

currell

elmores · Jul 23, 2001 04:21 PM

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Boy scout walks up to this guys house and knocks on the door.

The owner answers and the boy scout says 'Any odd jobs mistah?'

The owner of the house says 'heres some paint - I want my porch painted!'

After a few hours the boy scout comes back and knocks on the door and says 'We'll I've finished it - where my money - but your wrong it's not a Porch it's a BMW!'.

Ha Ha

Peter Hess · Jul 23, 2001 04:35 PM

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Oh! I just hate it when that happens.

Cleon · Jul 24, 2001 09:04 AM

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Back in my high school days, I was told I had to take German. My teachers were Frau Gammell and Frau Bello. Frau Bello was Austrian and spoke Hoch Deutsch. This means, if I recall, High German. The 'high' meant up, or hihger up the Rhein River. That's the story I got. I spent 42 months in Germany, in the service, stationed in the Hunsrick (SIC). No one spoke Hoch Deutsch there!

Anyway, I would suspect that the last syllable (le) would be pronounced 'uh'. But then again, it's been a long time

Cleon M. Lingwood, Jr.
9580 Oak Ave. Prkwy., #7 PMB 251
Folsom, CA 95630-1888

Steve Helmick · Jul 24, 2001 11:14 PM

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Usually, I subscribe to the Dirty Dan Rutherford pronunciation, "Snarly". Because they are...or were, until tuners learned how to "un-Snarl" them. Well, some of 'em still are, ya know. Snarly, that is. But correct pronounciation is SCH-nurly, POR-shah undt FolksVaggen. Vat ist dis Farfernuggen? By the way a boost port is not required, but why are the old ST's with the flat topped piston (like the G.15, G.21 .29rv, etc) not considered true Schnuerle's. Is it the single bypass? Would the MVVS 2.5RL then be a true Schnuerle without boost ports? Steve

TigreST · Jul 25, 2001 12:09 AM

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Steve,
According to my ligit-tour (books), the Sure-e-noughly portages are the ones that is loci-ated tu neither side of that thar eggs-haust portages, but they is angle-lated so as to die-wreak the hair and pestcontrol mixture tuward the middle-ear (middle rear) of the skill-and-dear wall, so the hair and fool cocktail don't goes a runnin' ot that thar eggs-haust port, fer it gitts egg-knighted, and the whole mess splodes. Cuss that's wut makes yer Ingine run, and make al that ther pawer, ..write?

Course, if in yer ports is jus itty bitty un's yer taken-in velocirapees gona be just a lily bit to quick, so yu better double up them thar portages see, (Everbody nose that it's gonna be a slow trip if'n ya gotts a bunch a portages in dair, don't matter how manys pad-lin da canoe.) So ya takes yer portage-mill (hand file) an ye just cuss a other pare uf' dem portages just rite akin tu them thar uder ones wit you all ready gots. See, nah wunt that ez? If'n yall stays aways back frum that thar Jermain langitch, taint to hard tu see nothing, ...an splainin's even ez-r than that! Yall take hair now,ya heere!

Toe-knee

Ty M. · Jul 25, 2001 03:20 AM

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Well ahll be. I unnerstood im. Been down here in Alabama too long. Time to mosey back out west.

elmores · Jul 25, 2001 04:36 PM

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I worked in Germany for about three months in the 80's with a German girl from Salzburg - she spoke 'High German'.

We worked in Hagen and Munchen Gladbach.

She told me that High German was the equivalent of 'BBC English'.

Whilst the locals were speaking more or less 'Geordie' (from Newcastle) or Liverpudlian.

Whilst I could tell which they sounded different I could not say which was considered 'higher class' than the other.

I was in a bar one night reading a book and from a group in the corner I heard the odd chorus off 'JOLLY GOOD SHOW' and 'WHAT HO OLD BOY'.

After a while one of the group came over and said to me 'We're sorry but we are making fun of you will you come and join us'.

They were a bunch of German English teachers - I spent the whole evening with them drinking 'Alt' beer with Schnapps chasers....

At one point one of them said to me 'You speak very good English - you have no accent' - which I thought was funny....

And at some point I mentioned that I liked blues and one of the guys said 'And the queen said to me hey man are you BB KIng?' (from BB's LP with The Crusaders) and we went to see BB in Dusseldorf that weekend.

During a tour of the army base I was working in the Brigadier showed me a white line about 15 foot from the floor - this was where the water came to after the famous Dambusters raid - he also added however that they were back in business in about 2 weeks!

Both the bases I went to are now closed...

Tony

TigreST · Jul 25, 2001 05:07 PM

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Tony to Tony, come in Tony,
Tony,
I spent the better part of my formative years in "Jolly ole England" My mother,"bless er eart" is from Warrington, Lanc's. Grew up at RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk 1967-1971. Came back for a stint at RAF Wethersfield, 1973-1976. Also did a 18 month tour at Nana's house in Warrington (RAF Burtonwood) during me dads tour of South Korea, 1961-62. I's miss the omeland nows an' agin'. That said I vas borne in das Deutschland mien Herr. Gotta admit, life as an "Air Force Brat" was great!

Tony

Ty M. · Jul 25, 2001 03:17 AM

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My wife went to the University of Heidelburg and espreken der Deutch zer goot. She, smiling all the while, says pronounce it just likes it's spelled. What ever. Schh--nurl le (lu).
Just so the darn thing runs.

gcb · Jul 25, 2001 09:22 AM

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Gee, that schnuerle thing really baffles me

George

Kiiski · Jul 25, 2001 10:07 AM

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Award George one rimshot.
Kiiski

Currell · Jul 25, 2001 11:12 PM

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And sometimes it's as simple as ABC...

(Groan).

Currell