FIRST NON PROFILE

HEY, I'M LOOKING FOR ADVISE ON MY FIRST "NON PROFILE" KIT.
WHAT IS THE EASIEST TO BUILD, LEAST EXPENSIVE, AND THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK IN FUN VALUE, KIT THAT I CAN PURCHASE?
ANY AND ALL ADVISE IS WELCOME.

REGARDS, TORHAM1

Easiest to build? I would go for the Oriental. I know Brodak had this kit and I think maybe RSM, or richards kits or Walt Umland? Box and blocks fuselage, straight wing. Also an excellent flier! Fox 35 and up for engines.
Does anyone kit Lew McFarland's Dolphin?? Same idea, but slightly smaller. If it isn't a kit, it SHOULD be.
There are plenty more, but these two were the first to pop into my mind.
Bill

LAST EDITED ON Oct-20-03 AT 09:15 PM (CDT)
 
>HEY, I'M LOOKING FOR ADVISE ON MY FIRST "NON PROFILE" KIT.
>WHAT IS THE EASIEST TO BUILD, LEAST EXPENSIVE, AND THE
>BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK IN FUN VALUE, KIT THAT I CAN
>PURCHASE?
>ANY AND ALL ADVISE IS WELCOME.
>
> REGARDS, TORHAM1

Torham1, well I'm sure you'll get a lot of advice from the regular members of this forum, but, it might help to have some idea of the type or level of flying you do. This would let us hone in on what might be the best "bang for the Buck", for you at this time.

For instance, if you fly stunt, at one of the higher levels, that would limit the responces to something like the Vector 40, the Legacy, Or one of several other excellent designs.

But, if you mainly sport fly, with an occasional contest thrown in, then something like the Tanager, or Fancy Pants, for stunt work, would be in order.

If pure sport flying, or scale work, the designs would be once again something else.

"Bang for the Buck", can often be relative, esp. if, or when you want a top competitive design. In such a case, $200 might be a bargain.

So, help us out a little and give us a little more information please.

I'm wondering why everything is spinning around?

>But, if you mainly sport fly, with an occasional contest
>thrown in, then something like the Tanager,

John, bro, Tanager is profile...

If he can build the Vector .40 is not that hard, and it looks so nice...

And it's not much more expensive than an Oriental.

Why not the Vector? If you wanna stuny, stunt. If you wanna have fun the vector has a better performance anyhow.

If i flew just sport the Vector would still be more fun......

God bless you!

In Christ,

>John, bro, Tanager is profile...
>Ion

Sorry, a slip in the differential of my mind. I was thinking Accentor, but Tanager came out my fingers on the keyboard.

I'm wondering why everything is spinning around?

Oriential
Bucaneer 740
JD Falcon
Cavalier
Ruffy

Oriential
Oriential
Oriential
Oriential
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Scott(need to build another)Riese

Oriental...
If you are talking flapped airplanes here.

>Oriental...
>If you are talking flapped airplanes here.
>
>Jake

Agreed, nice looking airplane that flies great.

>Oriental...
>If you are talking flapped airplanes here.
>
>Jake

JAKE...I Can't spell Oriental it's Greerk to me

Scott(geeeee)Riese

Check out Walter Umland's Chipmunk. The design is very easy to build to begin with. With Walter's treatments and embelishments, the kit is plain excellent! Additionally, the wing is foam which makes it even easier build.

The design itself is very competitive in PAMPA classes as well as Classic. One plane for the price of two planes

THANKS TO ALL FOR THE ADVISE AND SUGGESTIONS. AS FOR MY SKILL LEVEL, I HAVE NONE, EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE FLYING WITH FRIENDS ON THE WEEKENDS, AND PURELY FOR THE ENJOYMENT THE SPORT AND MEETING NEW PEOPLE BRINGS, (MOSTLY SMALLER PLANES ) HOWEVER I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE ENVEOUS OF THE "NON PROFILE" PLANES AND THEIR ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND REALISTIC SCALE APPEARANCE.

I CHECKED OUT THE "ORIENTAL" ON THE BRODAK WEBSITE, AND YES IT IS A SWEET LOOKING PLANE, HOWEVER I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE SOME PICTURES OF THE "CHIPMUNK", THE FOAM WING MAY BE JUST WHAT I NEED. I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRICE AS I LIVE IN CANADA AND DONT WANT TO GET KILLED ON THE EXCHANGE RATE AND SHIPPINIG

>THANKS TO ALL FOR THE ADVISE AND SUGGESTIONS. AS FOR MY
>SKILL LEVEL, I HAVE NONE, EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE FLYING WITH
>FRIENDS ON THE WEEKENDS, AND PURELY FOR THE ENJOYMENT THE
>SPORT AND MEETING NEW PEOPLE BRINGS, (MOSTLY SMALLER PLANES
>) HOWEVER I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE ENVEOUS OF THE "NON
>PROFILE" PLANES AND THEIR ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND REALISTIC
>SCALE APPEARANCE.
>
> I CHECKED OUT THE "ORIENTAL" ON THE BRODAK WEBSITE, AND
>YES IT IS A SWEET LOOKING PLANE, HOWEVER I WOULD STILL LIKE
>TO SEE SOME PICTURES OF THE "CHIPMUNK", THE FOAM WING MAY BE
>JUST WHAT I NEED. I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRICE AS I
>LIVE IN CANADA AND DONT WANT TO GET KILLED ON THE EXCHANGE
>RATE AND SHIPPINIG
\

Well if you're a Canadian you should like this one. He's talking about the kit of Jim VanLoo's semi-scale Chipmunk. This airplane was based upon the full-size DeHavilland DHC-1 (DeHavilland, Canada) design no. 1, aka Chipmunk T.1. It served as a primary trainer with both the RAF and RCAF for MANY years. It later became a prized sport plane and aerobatic aircraft.
You could paint it very simply with the overall Canadian chrome yellow training scheme and markings and leave off the wheel pants.
It's flapped, and not really what I'd consider a "starter" project- but hey, at this point I'd be the last guy in the world to tell someone not to go for what they might like to try.

Here's some kit pictures as it was being put together:
http://www.builtrightflyright.net/JVLChipmunk.htm

Onw thing that you don't see on the pictures is the laser-parts and wood quality. The parts are pretty much done for you, all you need is glue them together. Very straight forward. The kit comes with something VERY unique: photocopies of articles about the chipmunk. Very unique and educational.

here's the picture of the original:
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Her's are the plans:
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The kit may be more expensive than others but for a VERY goo reason: the hardware and wood quality is outstanding. It should be very easy to built one mean stunt plane out of it!

If you really have limited building experience, something simple is in order. Brodak's Fancy Pants is easy, but it does have the added complication of wing flaps. I'm sure that there are some others, but Walter Umland's Barnstormer comes to mind as a good start. Everything in the kit fits, so there will be no "work arounds" needed.

Foam wings build straight I'm sure, but wing sheeting may be difficult for an inexperienced builder.

Steve

The SIG Super Chipmunk kit is still available for about $100CDN.

I have a few Veco types left if interested in builtup wing versions with flaps.