PC and CF veil

I started my Cf testing last night.

I have two different carbon fiber veils I am trying.

One is the .2 oz stuff from ACP
http://www.acp-composites.com/ACP-CAT.HTM

and the other is the .35 oz veil from Art's Hobby.
http://www.arts-hobby.com/store/aboutitem.cfm?itemid=86&compid=1

I attached the two different veils, one to each elevator, so as to compare the two. I used a 2/1/1 mix of PC, 99% alchohol, and zinc stearate. The best reults were by painting the surface and then applying the mat to the wet surface and rubbing the PC through with the fingers.

Long story short, it seemed to work fab-o-liscious! The carbon stuck fine, I would not however waste a lot time time trying to make teeny tiny corners stay put, better to just trim and sand later. It is not, however, as easy to apply as silkspan, but it was not completely horrendous.

The ACP .2 matt is very, very loose, and really resembles something closer to a roving matt than the Art's veil.

The Art's veil is like thick, black jap tissue. With the Art's stuff say, "woodgrain? What woodgrain? Oh, it is completely gone". It also sands easier than the silkspan (did not expect that). It forms a nice gray dust when sanded, just like CF props, and the Art's matt has enough material that you can be aggressive with 180 paper.

The ACP stuff can only be lightly sanded before you go right through it.

More updates later.

Hey, Zilla,

juicy post, and I really loved the "fab-o-liscious"!

Did you make that one up?

I can see an ad for some of those American morning cereals, the little kid saying:

"Its fab-o-liscious!!"

Have you ever considered making some dough on the advertisng business?

If the "fab-o-liscious" is yours, you should register and sell it, it might turn in enough $$$ to buy a lifetime supply of good balsa, CF, engines, the works!

And I ain't kiddin'!!

God bless you!

In Christ,

Can you do some weight difference tests, strength tests, and stiffness tests on a couple of sheeting for the forum? I am curious as to your results. It would be interesting to compare these with dope and epoxy as well. I would assume epoxy to be both strongest and heaviest, but don't know about the other.

Brad, your assignment, if you care to accept it is...
And as always, if you mess up and glue yourself to the table, we will all disavow any knowledge of what you have done.

And as always, if you mess up and glue yourself to the table, we will all disavow any knowledge of what you have done.

Len,

Shut up and please hand me the debonder!!!!! LOL

God bless you!

In Christ,

Any more news to report? Like weights etc?

Thanks,

Still wondering WHY you want to put CF on the outside and then SAND it. I think the American Lug Association would like to know about your findings. MY point is CF travels along ways. You contaminate the whole area, home, kids, cat, and yourself. I’m not against CF; I use it on the Inside of my fuselages and wing spars, and I don’t sand it if I don’t have to. Now before anyone goes ballistic I know most of us are careful so please get the word out before you sand it.
The plane looks neat all in CF.

Scott (just being MOM) Riese

Bradzilla, did you apply CF all over the wing and caps, then cut out the open areas? Razor blade? How easy is that to do? I like the concept, but wondering how easy the cutting process would be. Sorta in connection with Scott's concerns, I think you dry sand the PC, but have you tried other fluids? Some solvents don't touch water soluble stuff. Also, who is holding the model? Steve