L. M. Cox Focke-Wulf FW 190A

ATTENTION: Seekers & Keepers of Odd Knowledge

I have put together the equipment to cut foam wings. I happen to have the Cox plans for a 1/2A FW 190A. I thought the foam wings in this plan would be a cheap and easy way to learn to cut foam accurately. Once I have a nice foam wing cut, was the original wing covered with 1/16 balsa, plastic, or $cote ?? I think the plan calls for 1/16 balsa but I am not sure. Does anyone remember?

Sig once had a 1/2A called the Cricket. It had a foam wing that was finished with only fuel proof paint or low heat plastic film.

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Lurker #375

Is this the RTF model that Cox sold that had the black fuse and blue wings?
If not then disregard the rest.

If it is, the wings were built using the McDonald's Big Mac carton method. A thin , molded peice of foam folded over on itself - if I remember correctly.

Cox gave them away at the Lake Charles NATS, and I remember flying a complete pattern with one, but with lots of whipping.

Plans are 1974
Wingspan 27-3/4
Length 18-1/2
weight 6oz
Black widow for combat or Golden Bee for stunt
"Cox foam wings,use 5min epoxy to bond to fuselage,root ribs, & wing
tips."
Plans are B&W 17"x22"

A sheet of 3/32 foam folded over the wing root and tip seems to answer my construction questions as I look at the plans.

Thanks for the help.

Would you be willing to share/e-mail a copy of the plans? I would love to try to build a balsa/silkspan version.
Chris

These are really a lot of *fun* to mess with!
A guy on ebay has them NIB quite often. I just got my second set of wings/plans.
Have used the black widow and golden bee, either of which give a lot of fun.
Next step is to make an *Allied* fighter and do some combat! LOL!!
Bill

Hi there! I happen to be de dude what designed that thar aereoplane.

The wings were expanded polystyrene sheet, as mentioned above, like the hamburger cartons. It was heat and pressure formed into an upper and lower airfoil with a double hinge at the leading edge. The trailing edges were joined with double stick tape on the plastic RTF Super Stunter models, or epoxy on the hand-built ones like the FW-190.

The FW-190 was a promotional give-away with the first run of Black Widow engines. A similar model, the Skyfire, was published in Flying models around 1973. That design was briefly kitted by Dick Mathis.

A later, much larger version of Skyfire was published in Model Aviation more recently, that one uses cut foam wings and brown wrapping paper covering.

Back to the FW-190, the original wings had a slick, fuelproof surface as produced, and needed no finishing. If you are cutting wings, I would just cover them with a low-temp iron-on film (Econokote, Black Baron, etc.), clear tape as used on the slope combat models or 1/4 mil Mylar laminating film.

Here's my full-fuse stunter using those FW-190 Cox wings. I had plans for a cowling but never finished that. The engine is a PAW .049TBR. It's too fast with the normal venturi, so this year I installed a venturi restrictor and that brought the speed down a bit.

After adding a trim tab, it flies quite well.

Larry Rengar thought the stab was a bit small. I haven't noticed a problem, but in any future versions I will follow Larry's advice and build a slightly larger stab.

Fred

Nice job, Fred. I may have to consider doing something similar with one or more of mine.

LAST EDITED ON Nov-11-03 AT 01:47 PM (CST)
 
Bill,

I, too, have puchased a few of these combos (folding foam wings and FW-190 plans) from that seller, who is, by the way, oas1. He currently has one of these items listed, with no bids on it yet. The starting bid is $5.00 and "Buy it now" is $7.00. When I first tried to win a bid for one of these a couple of years ago, they were going for upwards of $20.00. Considering that, the "Buy it now" price seems pretty reasonable to me. I sniped my last two and got them for less than that, but one can't count on the fact that the item will still be available at the auction's scheduled end.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34054&item=3152655358

Who will be first to get there? If you ask Dave nicely, he may have another set or two to send to the winning bidder, but, of course, I can't speak for him.

Paul

Edit: I checked the link above to find that the item has been been re listed and that there is now at least one bid. SORRY!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3154136625

The Old Sourdough
Ruksakinmakiak, Alaska, US of A

If and when C*x comes out with that Hyper Viper, the wings as described by Mikey Pratt should be even better than these in several ways. Better airfoil and tougher material. I can't wait!

Hyper Viper? What's that?

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDUT1&P=7

At least the date hasn't been pushed back again in the last month.