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Bob Reeves · Dec 03, 2003 01:13 PM

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OK gang help me out here, what is your best guess..

How far is it from the camera position to the top of the hill.

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dirtydan · Dec 03, 2003 01:18 PM

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You'll never get me to go for that old trick.

I was once in the Mojave, from our base camp took pictures of what appeared to be low ridges laying up against what the locals might refer to as mountains, but certainly are not.

Several of us liberated two Jeeps from the motor pool, I took pictures looking back at our camp. To this day it is hard to believe the photos cover the same terrain and over the same distances.

Dan

Currell · Dec 03, 2003 01:21 PM

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0.2 mile.

Why?

Currell

Currell · Dec 03, 2003 01:22 PM

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Define "top of the hill". Did you mean to those two little buildings, or the trees behind?

Currell

Bob Reeves · Dec 03, 2003 01:40 PM

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I really don't know how far it is honest.
Need to make sure I have ordered enough cable to go from the top of the hill (where the two little buildings are) to the bottom. This hill is in Colorado and I am in Oklahoma or I would just go measure it

If it helps the two little buildings are 6 foot square.

captcurt · Dec 03, 2003 01:57 PM

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257.5 Meters

Curt

How many rolls of string does it take to got from the surface of the earth to the surface of the moon??

One.

dirtydan · Dec 03, 2003 02:04 PM

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I really don't know how far it is honest.
Need to make sure I have ordered enough cable to go from the top of the hill (where the two little buildings are) to the bottom. This hill is in Colorado and I am in Oklahoma or I would just go measure it
If it helps the two little buildings are 6 foot square.


In that case, I think you're screwed, and that way too much cable will be just right. Or two feet shy of the requirements.

Dan

Jim Pollock · Dec 03, 2003 02:10 PM

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Looks like it's about a 6 iron distance but it's pretty steep
uphill so I would probably go with a smooth 4 iron, tee, hee, hee!
Or if you knew the elevation change and angle to the top you could use some simple trig and figure it out!


Jim Pollock:+

dana wall · Dec 03, 2003 03:47 PM

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Best think might be to get the land surveyors and utilities plans for the local public works department and find out where those power polls are. Then measure from the maps and guess.

Michael Schmitt · Dec 03, 2003 05:14 PM

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I would guess a quater mile
Mike

Michael Schmitt

Ty Marcucci · Dec 03, 2003 06:03 PM

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If those buildings are six feet, then it appears they are in the end zone and that makes it about 110 yards. But, hey, it's only a guess.

Bob Reeves · Dec 03, 2003 07:09 PM

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Hummm, just thought of something. I have the camera that picture was taken with, If I can find something that is 6 foot wide and take several shots while moving away. When the picture I take has the 6 foot object the same pixel width as the buildings, I should be close to the same distance away..

mcm · Dec 03, 2003 08:39 PM

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Can you call them and ask them the distance?

faif2d · Dec 03, 2003 08:42 PM

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350 yards. 2 clicks windage from the left.

I used to like painting with dope but now I can't remember why. Steve Fauble

catdaddy · Dec 03, 2003 10:29 PM

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138 yards, 2feet, and 9 1/2"

regards,
Rick "catdaddy" Blankenship

Currell · Dec 03, 2003 10:36 PM

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I was basing the 0.2 mile on running. You run these pickups to a certain distance, often a quarter mile. So it looked a little short of a quarter. Currell

SRiese5283 · Dec 03, 2003 10:38 PM

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OH THANKS RICK!!!That's my quess......

scott(304yds)Riese:+

Scott Riese

Steve Helmick · Dec 03, 2003 10:56 PM

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I can't believe that Dan didn't ask the focal length of the lens. Then you have to ask the format of the camera. I don't know how that would apply if this is a digital camera.

It looks to me (based on a "normal" lens being used), that it would take 5 hurls of a Fox .15 to reach the sheds, assuming that the Fox .15 did not roll/slide back down the slope, that you make each throw from where the Fox .15 touched down, and that you are PTG. What's the next question? Steve

Patrick Rowan · Dec 03, 2003 10:58 PM

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600'

Fly Stunt

Outlaw · Dec 03, 2003 11:06 PM

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bob i would say 1/4 mile might be a lil bit shy of the distance but looks can be deceving

DMoon · Dec 04, 2003 12:44 AM

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Bob,

They make a distance finder that golfers can use, it is illegal in their game. You look through it and you put the pin inbetween a sloping line. The bottom of the pin or ground level on the bottom line and the upward sloping line in the view finder until the top of the pin is on the line. Since you know the heigh of the houses and Golf flagsticks are about 7' I bet you could get a good estimate looking at you pic through one of these view finders. Take your photo to a golf store and ask for a distance finder you sight through. They might juts let you try it out on your pic and not have to buy it.

I hope it helps.

Doug

PS Still working on getting you that motor.

Doug Moon

Bob Reeves · Dec 04, 2003 04:34 AM

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Hi Doug,

Been meaning to send you an email, I ran across a deal on a NIB .56 Golden Night I couldn't pass up so I am set. we will work out something, no hurry no worry...

Bob

Tools · Dec 04, 2003 07:07 AM

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You guys are all wrong, I just measured, it's 3 1/8". There was no mention of "real life" was there? I'm just going by the photo, and have a 15" monitor...

Here's more theory to try! If you knew how many degrees that field of view is, you could figure out the distance to the sheds. Same thing the golf distance finder is doing. Could also do it with a sextant.

Tools

Mike

Jim Pollock · Dec 04, 2003 10:44 AM

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O.K.

Here is my simi-sientific guess. From the picture with the given that the buildings are 6 feet square, then the estimated rise is about 60 feet. From the photo, the entirely guessed approxiate angle to the top of the hill is 6 degrees. So the far side of the angle has a side of 60. Mulitply by the Tan of 6 degrees and the near side comes out to about 570 feet. To find the hypotenuse (distance up the slope) divide the Far side by the sine of 6 degrees and the distance up the hill comes out to approximately 574 feet about 191 yards. This is entirely based on subjectively using the base of the buildings as 6 feet and then measuring the elevation change with that and completely guessing the angle from the picture. Anyway you can substitute other probable angles and use the same formulas to get answers. Can someome figure out the exact angle of the slope??? Then you can get a pretty close distance. Sorry that this ended up so long winded.

Jim Pollock

De · Dec 04, 2003 03:02 PM

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Bob,

The most accurate method to determine the length of wire that you will need, is to call up your customer and have them measure it, and call you back with the results. Add about 50 feet (at least) to their measurement.

Bob Reeves · Dec 04, 2003 03:42 PM

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De,

I did ask, the customer told me it was 150 ft. from a warming hut to the slide and that it is 600 feet to the top of the hill. I was able to get a good measurement on the 150 ft. and it is only 70 feet. Made me wonder about his 600 ft.

Gotta run, have to be in a meeting.

Later
Bob

Bob Reeves · Dec 04, 2003 02:19 PM

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Great guesses guys, especially the scientific ones. According to my camera test it is more or less 400 feet to the two buildings, of course we could all be wrong. Week after next I will know for sure and report back what it actually is.

If the camera test is right it looks like Catdaddy was the closest.

Nils · Dec 04, 2003 02:55 PM

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I'd say 200 yards is real close. If you're sighted in 2" high at 100 yards & a hypotenuse appears next to the buildings hold dead on & squeeze one off. If it doesn't go down give it a quick follow-up shot, a wounded hypotenuse can be pretty dangerous.

/\/\/

Old Sourdough · Dec 05, 2003 03:46 PM

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"If it doesn't go down, give it a quick follow-up shot, a wounded hypotenuse can be pretty dangerous."

Nils,

I didn't know that Oregonians were such masters of understatement. A wounded hypotenuse is extremely dangerous! One should never shoot one unless he can place his shots (preferably with a .375 H&H or larger) very well. Also, one shouldn't be hunting them without the services of an extremely well-qualified, experienced white hunter, who should be backing his hunter with at least a .510 Nitro express double.

The Old Sourdough
Beer Can Cove, Alaska, US of A

sabre250 · Dec 04, 2003 03:16 PM

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All this guessing sounds like a pretty dodgy way to estimate a job.
Let's say they ask for a variation which includes clearing the contents of the two 6' sheds on the top of the hill.......but they don't tell you what's in them.
You could go up there with a pick-up truck and find that you need a pump-out truck!
regards

SRiese5283 · Dec 05, 2003 07:01 PM

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What I do in the real world is...Have my helper take the measuring wheel for a walk up and back. He writes down the measurement both times. Cut an extra 50' because you charge by the foot. Have you'r helper dig the trench. YOU put in wire. Helper fills trench. Day done.

Scott(it's nice to be the white hat and UNION)Riese

Scott Riese

Bob Reeves · Dec 05, 2003 07:28 PM

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Ya, I am borrowing a guy from one of our customers in Florida to go in my place. The cables, all 14 of them will be pulled up the hill with a snow cat, a chain saw will be used to cut a trench in the snow/ice and the cables will buried in the snow. Glad I am not going..

Old Sourdough · Dec 06, 2003 03:15 AM

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So you won't need all that winter clothing after all, eh?

The Old Sourdough
Beer Can Cove, Alaska, US of A

De · Dec 06, 2003 10:23 AM

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>Ya, I am borrowing a guy from one of our customers in
>Florida to go in my place. The cables, all 14 of them will
>be pulled up the hill with a snow cat, a chain saw will be
>used to cut a trench in the snow/ice and the cables will
>buried in the snow. Glad I am not going..

Drat! I was looking forward to all the Colorado snow stories !

richardskits · Dec 06, 2003 07:10 AM

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Why not call the county assessors office? They should know the exact size of the lot as you're taxes are based on the lot size.

Larry Richards