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Circle Burner · Dec 04, 2003 09:08 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-04-03 AT 09:32 PM (CST)
 
Just wanted to post a couple pictures of my new Zilch X. Kit is by Walter Umland and it was top notch! Wing and tail is covered with Ultracote trans Orange. Fuse is covered with medium silkspan and painted with my heated Rustoleum technique. Power is my new, broken in Brodak 40. Final weight on my digital scale is 32.7oz ready to fly.

Really proud of the finished product, but I have to admit it's easy when you start out with such a high quality kit!

Thanks for looking,
John

Circle Burner · Dec 04, 2003 09:12 PM

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Steve Helmick · Dec 04, 2003 09:20 PM

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Don't f'gedabout yer AMA numbers. It does need a touch of tart, but looks neat, smooth and shiney. You should ask D.Dirt about his landing technique, it is very impressive. NOT!! I would try setting it down pretty hot, then hold a bunch of down elevator to keep it pegged on the ground, until the tail drops on its own. On grass, you won't need to hold much down, if any. Great job...what's the next project? Steve

JR Model Guy · Dec 04, 2003 09:17 PM

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John,

Really nice looking. At that weight, it to be a real good flyer!
By the way, how hot do you get your Rustoleum? When I tried it, I let the can sit in the sink filled with hot water and as I said in another post, it added over two ounces to the weight. I did paint the entire plane with it, not just the fuselage.

Great looking model!!

John Ramsey

Circle Burner · Dec 04, 2003 09:22 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-05-03 AT 09:40 AM (CST)
 
Thanks John,

The can is not hot to the touch but it's really warm to the touch. It's amazing how nice it sprays. Rustoleum is not the lightest paint, but when you factor the cost and durability when dry it's a nice product for are use. I spray on one tack coat and let it dry for 15 minutes, apply a second coat and let it dry. If your careful the weight gain is not bad at all.

Steve-thanks! I tend to keep my color schemes simple. I like the really clean, simple, neat look. They are easier to maintain. The next project is the All American Sr or the Jaminson.

John

dirtydan · Dec 05, 2003 01:03 PM

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Don't f'gedabout yer AMA numbers. It does need a touch of tart, but looks neat, smooth and shiney. You should ask D.Dirt about his landing technique, it is very impressive. NOT!! I would try setting it down pretty hot, then hold a bunch of down elevator to keep it pegged on the ground, until the tail drops on its own. On grass, you won't need to hold much down, if any. Great job...what's the next project? Steve


Steve,

Hoping you will recall that Don McClave has proven capable of bouncing my Zilch X just as high and just as far as I do. At the Roundup, counting practice flights I think Don and I had a total of one good landing; and it was Don--in a flight which was not scored.

However, I do appreciate your suggestions. No, really I do. The only problem is that I don't quite understand all the nuances to your techniques.

Solution: Next time out, will you puhlease show me how smoooooothly you can land this model so I can better understand where I am making my mistakes?

Uh, asphalt only. Anybody can land these things on grass, especially the Arlington field.


Dan

EddyR · Dec 05, 2003 01:35 PM

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Hi John Nice looking Zilch X. If you remember mine never bounced on landing. I landed mine very slow and made a three point landing the tail wheel hitting the same tame as the main gear. I did expect it to be hard to land but it was very easy. There is a picture of my plane on Walters site for the Zich X kit.
Ed

dirtydan · Dec 05, 2003 01:43 PM

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>Hi John Nice looking Zilch X. If you remember mine never
>bounced on landing. I landed mine very slow and made a three
>point landing the tail wheel hitting the same tame as the
>main gear. I did expect it to be hard to land but it was
>very easy. There is a picture of my plane on Walters site
>for the Zich X kit.
>Ed


Not saying it won't work, but I tried that in a contest one time this last year. Maybe I was way off when it came to wind direction, and the three-pointer did involve all three points as you suggest. However, the poor model didn't so much land as it simply arrived. PLOP!

After reviewing my landing points I wished for someone who could teach me how to land it properly, and my wish has at long last come true, thanks to Steve Helmick.

No offense to you, Ed. I am sure you're a very nice guy. But Steve is local...

Dan

Circle Burner · Dec 05, 2003 04:05 PM

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Dan

Ed technique does work, I witnessed it all summer. The three point method that Ed used provided good landings 95% of the time.

John

EddyR · Dec 06, 2003 04:55 PM

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Dan I thought it would be like a All American but it was not. for some reason it came in tail low. the plane was nose heavy when first built and I added weight to the tail. I flew it with heavy and light motors.First a ST35 then a ST40, DS50 and then Rustler 40. It always landed tail low. when it was nose heavy it was hard to land. With the ST40 it was like a All American Sr bounce,bounce,bounce.I would still be flying it but a line broke and I gave it away and some elts is using the wing in another plane. Here is a link to a picture of it.

builditright · Dec 09, 2003 10:57 PM

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Wow! that looks so....... nice

Oops! wait a minute let me refrase that

Oh my goodness what did do

better send it back to me so I dispose of it properly
I will replace the kit(no charge of coarse) and you can start over

LOL !


Ok seriously now that looks Great!

Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
aka / builditright
please visit my web
http://www.builtrightflyright.net