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GLBahrman · Dec 12, 2003 10:13 PM

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I just got plans for the Les Mc Donald STILETTO. These plans are the first time I have seen this rudder. Are there different versions??

Greg L. Bahrman

Steven Yampolsky · Dec 12, 2003 10:50 PM

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Oh yes!There are basically 2 looks/sizes of stiletto. Your plans are for so called Stilleto 35 which was the first version. Later version was larger and sometimes called Stilleto 660. I bet the the rudder shape you're thinking of is from the later, larger model

Steven Yampolsky

GLBahrman · Dec 12, 2003 11:01 PM

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Thanks Steven

Greg L. Bahrman

Ty Marcucci · Dec 12, 2003 11:15 PM

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There are three versions of the Stiletto plus one more by Tom Dixon called the Stiletto XL. Two were kitted by Mathis & Peadon in Texas about 1977. I have two of each kit, plus a Stiletto 660 kit. I have four different sets of plans. Again, enough to drive you crazy when looking for "the" Stiletto or "the" Argus or "the" Ares, etc.

GLBahrman · Dec 12, 2003 11:19 PM

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Is this Classic legal?

Greg L. Bahrman

Ty Marcucci · Dec 13, 2003 12:02 AM

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No, it came out after 1971. Well after.

Steven Yampolsky · Dec 13, 2003 12:53 PM

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Ty,
Did Silleto XL vary from the 660 version? Did it look different?

I am aware of only two basic shapes of the Stiletto: the 35 and the 660.


Steven Yampolsky

Ty Marcucci · Dec 13, 2003 05:15 PM

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Well, the 660 is a Les McDonald design and the XL is a Tom Dixon version and they are not quite the same. The two kit version had different rudders, different airfoils though the same chord and span and area. Other minor differences too. For 10.00 to cover printing at Kinkso and mailing, I can send you the two plans so you can see the differences. Push comes to shove, do the 660 with an ST .46 or and OS LA. 46.

Steven Yampolsky · Dec 13, 2003 11:47 PM

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Thank you Ty for the offer. I have enough plans to last me a while. I already have a 35 version ready to be built. I will have it poered by a Brodak 40. If I need more power , LA46 is a direct plugin.

I think with a larger version, one would need at least a modern .50 for power.

Steven Yampolsky

GLBahrman · Dec 29, 2003 01:15 AM

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Hi Steven,
I think maybe you miss understood. After looking at the plans I think what Ty said was that the 35 Stiletto and the 660 Stiletto have the same wing span and the same cord only the 660 has a different airfoil and rudder. You actually refered to the 660 as the larger version which is really not the case. I think if you were to look at the 660 you might be happier with the thicker airfoil especially if you are considering using the LA 46, which would probably be the better choice in a plane of this size anyway..... Ty, correct me if I'm wrong

Greg L. Bahrman

parisjm · Dec 29, 2003 09:46 AM

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>Hi Steven,
>I think maybe you miss understood. After looking at the
>plans I think what Ty said was that the 35 Stiletto and the
>660 Stiletto have the same wing span and the same cord only
>the 660 has a different airfoil and rudder. You actually
>refered to the 660 as the larger version which is really not
>the case. I think if you were to look at the 660 you might
>be happier with the thicker airfoil especially if you are
>considering using the LA 46, which would probably be the
>better choice in a plane of this size anyway..... Ty,
>correct me if I'm wrong


Greg,
At least on the plans I have, there is some difference in wing span and flap size. Did not look too hard at the thickness of the wing though. It took a while to find these differences.

John

LD · Dec 19, 2003 11:25 AM

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Hi

Are you still selling the plans for the Stilleto? If so I would like a copy of them. How much?

How much to ship them to N. Cal?

Thanks!

Ty Marcucci · Dec 28, 2003 11:19 PM

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Whoa LD. I missed your request big time. Sorry. Contact me at the secret message site on Stuka here. Ty:)

Proparc · Dec 13, 2003 04:31 PM

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Greg, with a good ST .46, this is serious, serious business!

builditright · Dec 14, 2003 12:17 AM

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I built that exact model off the same plans only I shortened the height of the rudder a little bit

http://www.builtrightflyright.net/controline/orangestilleto.htm

Thank You and God Bless
Walter Umland
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