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Looking for a color photo of Stilleto 35

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Steven Yampolsky · Dec 15, 2003 05:29 PM

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Does anyone have a color photo of Les MacDonald's 35 sized Stilleto? I would like to be able to reproduce the same color scheme on mine.

Steven Yampolsky

Ty Marcucci · Dec 16, 2003 12:33 AM

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I believe his were dark blue and white or black and white. What color??

Steven Yampolsky · Dec 16, 2003 06:56 AM

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>I believe his were dark blue and white or black and white.
>What color??

I've seen the black and white photos. Based on those, his plane was painted in balack and white.

I would like to be able to finish it to same color as it was originally. If I could get my hands on on a color copy, it would be greatly appreciated!

Steven Yampolsky

Rick · Dec 16, 2003 09:29 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-16-03 AT 09:34 AM (CST)
 
I don't have a photo of the Stilleto but I live in Muncie and the AMA museum has one of Les McDonalds Stilleto's on display. The model on display is one of the larger versions and the paint job is black and white with red trim. If you would like I would be happy to take a picture of the model and send it to you. Just let me know.

Other stunters on display at the museum that come to mind if anyone needs photos..........


Nobler- the rebuild of the original.
Thunderbird- bubble canapy version.
Stills Stunt Stuka- as reproduced by Wes Dick.

Rick Henry

Steven Yampolsky · Dec 16, 2003 11:35 AM

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I plan to be in Muncie for WC so I plan to take lots of pictures of that 660!

Steven Yampolsky

Chuck Smith · Dec 16, 2003 10:13 AM

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Maybe. I'll look through some old NATs photos over the weekend. If I find one I'll hook you up.

Steven Yampolsky · Dec 16, 2003 11:35 AM

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That would be great!

Steven Yampolsky

Curt Contrata · Dec 17, 2003 09:04 PM

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All of them were white with red and blue trim, although the blue is very dark. The blue was mixed using Aerogloss Corsair Blue and Jet Black. The later ones in the series had more detailing and he added a few more colors with the standard white w/red & blue. If you see a fourth color in a B&W photo, it could be silver or gold. The I-beam 660 had silver and metalic blue accents to go with the his standard colors.

Curt

c.maikis · Dec 18, 2003 04:23 AM

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I have several photos of Les' airplanes. The oldest is ( if my memory serves me right ) from the world champs at Utrecht, Netherlands, in 1976.
Regards, claus

Steven Yampolsky · Dec 18, 2003 07:31 AM

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Thank you Claus for the photo! got more?

Steven Yampolsky

c.maikis · Dec 19, 2003 06:39 AM

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more photos:
group photo = Winston-Salem 78
brown model = Winston-Salem 78 ( flown by another pilot; but there
was rumour that it was actually one of Les. The quality of workmanship seems to indicate this)
pull test = Poland 90
regards, claus

JimW · Dec 19, 2003 07:41 AM

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I'm really stretching the limits of my memory here, but I remember Les's Stiletto 35 from the 71 or 72 KOI when it was held at Imeson.I recall that the base color was a light cream with dark brown trim. Very similar to the one in Claus's picture. I have some pictures I snapped somewhere, but I haven't been able to find them yet. Still looking...

Jim Womack

Curt Contrata · Dec 19, 2003 05:20 PM

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The light tan one was a Tropicair. It was tan w/red and chocolate trim. It used a Novi wing and a Formula S fuse.

Curt

Trostle · Dec 20, 2003 01:20 PM

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>more photos:
>group photo = Winston-Salem 78
>brown model = Winston-Salem 78 ( flown by another pilot; but
>there
>was rumour that it was actually one of Les. The quality of
>workmanship seems to indicate this)
>pull test = Poland 90
>regards, claus

Claus,

Great pictures!

The brown model at Winston-Salem in 78 was entered by Vince Schneltzer. Les McDonald and Vince were both from Miami. (Based on a photograph from Oct 78 Model Airplane News.) Vince showed up at several contest well finished models.

Keith

Mike_Ferguson · Dec 18, 2003 08:32 AM

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Again, it's not the Stilleto 35 .... but here's Les McDonald's Stilleto from the 1984 World Championships.

I'll try to get a picture of the "Stilleto 700" converted to digital format ... right now, I only have slides of it.

Curt Contrata · Dec 18, 2003 05:44 PM

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I think this was the 700.

Andy Lee Photo

Allen Brickhaus · Dec 19, 2003 09:13 AM

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I may be wrong, and have been many times, but I thought the 700 version was a foam wing bird. The one shown here is still the "I-beam" look. Thought perhaps the 700 was also lighter in trim colors. Just some thoughts.

Allen Brickhaus

Randy Smith · Dec 19, 2003 11:57 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-19-03 AT 03:49 PM (CST)
 
The Stilleto 700 was the one LES flew at the 1975 Lake Charles NATs. I was there flying with him.
He crashed it at that NATs (and He and BOB Gieseke duked it out for the win with both of them flying rebuilt planes) and I do not believe he ever built another one.
The 700 was not an I beam
The Cream and brown Stilleto may have been the ones of Remel Cooper.
Most every one of Les's plane I saw were all Dark Blue , White base,red and sometimes minor gold or silver trim.

The 700 was definatly Foam and was much bigger than any Stilleto Les had. It made the 660 look small. If I recall correct. it had a ST 46 for power

Regards

Randy Smith

Steven Yampolsky · Dec 19, 2003 05:38 PM

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Wow! I just want to thank everyone for offering some insight into differnet models. This is exactly the kind of info I was looking to get.
Keep it coming!

Steven Yampolsky

Allen Brickhaus · Dec 20, 2003 09:00 AM

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Just a thought. The brown version might be one by Stan Powell. He often flew with Les and is capable of such a fine finish. He won best appearing stunter at the 82 Nats in Lincoln with his white, green and gold Dove. The Dove was a version of the Stilleto.

Allen Brickhaus

aaronl · Dec 20, 2003 09:06 AM

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wasnt that dove also "twenty pointer" ?

The honor held by:
Stan Powell
Gene Martine
Windy

Others?

Steven Yampolsky · Dec 20, 2003 10:59 AM

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I heard that there is only 3 20 pointer planes in the history of this sport. All I know is Windy's Cardinal but I have no idea about the others. Who where the pilots? What where the planes? What years was it? Got pictures?

Steven Yampolsky

peabody · Dec 20, 2003 11:16 AM

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Steve...
I'm not sure, but believe that Ski Dombrowski achieved 20 with his "Lacemaker"? Windy has two or three.... a Cardinal that rated 20 was flown into Doug Bennedetti's All American (Windy was in the wrong place) and rebuilt and painted "gone green", or mayhaps Kawasaki green? It's been through about twenty hands since (always loaned, btw) and I saw it up your way last year.

See Ya

Peabody

Bill Little · Dec 20, 2003 11:21 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-20-03 AT 11:22 AM (CST)
 
Windy only has one twenty point plane, and I don't know why.
The '89 Cardinal, before it was repainted Kawasaki Green.
Bill <><


Disclaimer: I am neither a NATS Champion, engine reworker, engine producer, column writer, Hobby Shop owner, *rockeet* scientist, nor otherwise. Just an old Advanced flier.

Steven Yampolsky · Dec 20, 2003 12:32 PM

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Oh yeah! I saw on one of your tapes: Lenny had it. Last season he flew Legacy so I never got a chance to see the Cardinal. I wonder if he still has it...

Steven Yampolsky

Bill Little · Dec 20, 2003 11:19 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Dec-20-03 AT 11:37 AM (CST)
 
Windy's '89 Cardinal
Gene Martine's ((??????))
Ski Dombroski's Lacemaker
Stan Powell's Dove (I saw this one at Huntersville a couple years ago)
Can't remember the name of Gene's plane
Bill <><

EDIT: I think Gene's plane was the Mariner (???)


Jim Pollock · Dec 20, 2003 07:18 PM

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Steve,

They have all been pictured in Stunt News either on the cover or
a color picture inside. These pictures were done in about 1999 through 2001 or early 2002. In fact every concourse winner since
the beginning of the concourse was included.

Jim Pollock

EddyR · Dec 21, 2003 09:19 AM

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Here are two pictures I took of Remel Cooper's Stelleto 35 I took them at Jacksonville in 1982-83. Remel did not fly again for many years and I never saw the plane again. This was the first controline contest I had flown in over 25 years and I won beginner with a All American Sr.
Ed