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Jim Pollock · Dec 24, 2003 08:26 AM

Recommended reading#0 source
All,

I just finished an in depth reading of Ted Fancher's Imitation and Excitation articles in the AMA digital archives. I highly recommend that anyone with a computer log in and read these artices if they havn't already! They are very, very informative!

Thanks Ted

P.S.
Do you have the "Special Edition" about ready to fly?

Jim Pollock

KenD · Dec 24, 2003 08:44 AM

RE: Recommended reading#1 source
LAST EDITED ON Dec-24-03 AT 08:45 AM (CDT)
 
'Tis a pity the "digital archives" are for AMA members only! ..

Just a thought .. Could they be made available in the Pampa site too?

nrogers · Dec 28, 2003 04:58 PM

RE: Recommended reading#2 source
LAST EDITED ON Dec-29-03 AT 06:21 PM (CDT) by LNeumann (admin)
 
>'Tis a pity the "digital archives" are for AMA members only!
>..
>
>Just a thought .. Could they be made available in the Pampa
>site too?

The Archives are available to anyone.

(Edited at Neil's request--Forumhost)


Neil
Edmonton, Alberta

Alan Hahn · Dec 28, 2003 06:58 PM

RE: Recommended reading#3 source
LAST EDITED ON Dec-28-03 AT 07:02 PM (CDT)
 
Actually they aren't available to everyone. A lot of us pay AMA dues and don't particularly appreciate free loading. Your link bypasses the login page where you input your last name and AMA number. So sure you can do it (lousy AMA security), but it doesn't imply that it is suppose to be open to eveyone.

I wquld hope Len will "censor" your post to remove the link.

My $xx.00 (whatever the AMA dues are)

Alan

Ted Fancher · Dec 28, 2003 07:37 PM

RE: Recommended reading#5 source
Ooops! Easy Alan.

Note that both Neil and Ken are "furriners", Neil from Canada and Ken, I think, from Great Britain. Much as I'd like to have everyone join AMA as well as PAMPA, it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that those who support their own National Aero Club should feel obligated to support ours as well.

Like most organizations, one of the reasons AMA has a web site is to expose non-members to the advantages of membership. I expect the on-line reprints are a means to that end.

Ted

Jim Pollock · Dec 28, 2003 09:53 PM

RE: Recommended reading#9 source
Ted,

Please give us a progress report on the "Special"?

Jim Pollock

Larry Cunningham · Dec 28, 2003 08:25 PM

RE: Recommended reading#7 source
I feel just the opposite, Alan.

These are OLD articles, no one is harmed financially by just anyone reading them, and they promote our hobby.

JMHO.

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"By trying we can easily endure adversity. Another man's, I mean." -Mark Twain

Ted Fancher · Dec 28, 2003 11:42 PM

RE: Recommended reading#11 source
>I feel just the opposite, Alan.
>
>These are OLD articles, no one is harmed financially by just
>anyone reading them, and they promote our hobby.
>
>JMHO.
>
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>
>"By trying we can easily endure adversity. Another man's, I
>mean." -Mark Twain

Hmmm. The SR71 is even OLDer. Anything better come along since?

Ted

p.s. I agree!

tperry2054 · Dec 28, 2003 08:36 PM

RE: Recommended reading#8 source
To late Allen,

I already spread it all over.

Tom

nrogers · Dec 29, 2003 01:03 AM

RE: Recommended reading#13 source
>Actually they aren't available to everyone. A lot of us pay
>AMA dues and don't particularly appreciate free loading.
>Your link bypasses the login page where you input your last
>name and AMA number. So sure you can do it (lousy AMA
>security), but it doesn't imply that it is suppose to be
>open to eveyone.
>
>I wquld hope Len will "censor" your post to remove the link.
>
>My $xx.00 (whatever the AMA dues are)


Sorry to offend anyone with my post. I was only passing on a link and information that was posted on this forum earlier this year by a very well known member. I don't remember anything negative being said at that time so assumed that it was a freely available page that some were not aware of or had not saved. I also did not know that this page is normally accessed through an earlier sign in page.

Again, I apologize for "free loading" off someone else's membership fees.

Leonard, could you please remove my post as it is apparently unacceptable.

Neil
Edmonton, Alberta

mcm · Dec 28, 2003 07:35 PM

RE: Recommended reading#4 source
tell us how to find the articles. Strangest search engine I've ever seen

Elwyn · Dec 28, 2003 08:17 PM

RE: Recommended reading#6 source
I think the Excitation was in Dec '81 and the Imitation was in September and October '79.

bhadley0 · Dec 28, 2003 10:15 PM

RE: Recommended reading#10 source
These articles are just great reading, filled with lots of information and they are just very well written. I particularly like some of Ted's articles. Search for FANCHER under authors, you will find 71 articles by Ted.
Ted sure had a way with words in these columns. You dont see a lot of writing like that today IMHO. One of my favorite's by Ted is the 1989 Nats, where he opens the column with:

"DATE: Saturday, July 22, 1989. Place: Richland airport, Richland, WA. Today the sun rose in the east and set in the west; the tides of the world's oceans responded to the moon's come-hither flirtations; and Jimmy Casale won the Walker Cup. Rest easy, America, all is right with the natural order of things!"

This stuff is fun reading.
BTW: And if anyone had forgotten, Mike Pratt won the 1989 Nats Advanced title- with what else, the "natural order of things", a MAGNUM!!!
Brian

Ted Fancher · Dec 29, 2003 12:00 AM

RE: Recommended reading#12 source
>All,
>
>I just finished an in depth reading of Ted Fancher's
>Imitation and Excitation articles in the AMA digital
>archives. I highly recommend that anyone with a computer
>log in and read these artices if they havn't already! They
>are very, very informative!
>
>Thanks Ted
>
>P.S.
>Do you have the "Special Edition" about ready to fly?
>
>Jim Pollock

Hi Jim.

Boy, I only wish I could throw one of these things together that quick! The Special Edition is now in one major piece. Just finished installing the flap fairings this afternoon. Finaly sanding, covering of the remaining parts with carbon veil and then the open bays with silkspan and it'll be ready for finishing.

I molded a couple of canopies the other day and have the best of them sitting in some RIT dye hoping to get a decent amount of yellow/gold color into it. I'll fit the pilot and some "cockpit detail" this week while doing the carbon veil and covering.

It looks like somewhere between 55 and 60 oz ought to be doable which will be the lightest T.P. type I've done to date. It's set up to run either of three engines, the PA .61, RoJett .60 or the VF .46. Actually more than that since any of the PA series or the VF .40 would drop in as well. Final choice will depend on what flight characteristics seem optimum.

I've been flying the Final Edition with Brett's RoJett for a couple of months and like some of the things it does better than the PA. On the other hand, the PA does the vertical stuff better than the RoJett! It's truly wonderful to have to choose between so much really great off the shelf hardware. This is really the golden age of stunt in terms of what we've got to work with, isn't it?

Ted

Currell · Dec 29, 2003 10:23 AM

RE: Recommended reading#14 source
No need at all to apologize, Neil. Currell