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Lucky · Dec 24, 2003 03:47 PM

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Last Sunday, a group of us in Tucson were treated to a flight in the rarest of Beechcraft Staggerwings. The plane is owned and operated by Dave Pascananni out of Chino airport. It is a one of a kind version with serial number 38 and was first built in March of 1935.


Lucky Pyatt
Tucson AZ

cyclone · Dec 24, 2003 04:33 PM

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Hi Lucky; And I do mean Lucky. That is one great machine. I have seen a few of them at airshows, and I don't think they built any two alike. Really a class machine. Jim Kraft

Jim Kraft

otshodges · Dec 24, 2003 07:27 PM

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IMHO, the Staggerwing is the most beautiful aircraft ever built, bar none.

Bill "OTS Rulz" Hodges

Circle Burner · Dec 24, 2003 08:55 PM

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I agree, best looking plane period!

cwmcmillin · Dec 24, 2003 09:39 PM

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The airplane is actually owned by Dave Passannante, nice try though Lucky!

The Beech 17 series did have many differences and the pre-war airplanes were built to order, however the wartime UC-43/GB-2 were an equivalent to the D-17S and were very standard. The G-17s was built post war and also were standardized to a high degree.

The letter pre-fix means the airframe model; A,B,C,D,E,F,G-17
The 17 was of course the basic negative staggered biplane design.
The subsequent letter is the engine installation. R,S,F,A,B,etc.
R is for Wright Whirlwnd R-975, Sis for Pratt and Whitney Wasp JR. R-985, A is for Wright Cyclone R-1820!!! Only two were built with that engine.


Hope this is interesting to anyone except me.

Merry Christmas,
Chris McMillin

cyberflyer · Dec 24, 2003 09:54 PM

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>A is for Wright Cyclone R-1820!!! Only two
>were built with that engine.

Man, oh man.

A G-17A with inverted fuel and oil, smoke and a black and gold paint scheme--art deco scallops on the top and checkerboards on the bottom.

That is an airshow act just waiting for bookings.

I wonder if one could take an airframe and retrofit the R-1820 and get it certified?

Cyber (former airshow) Flyer

The Cat Whisperer

cwmcmillin · Dec 25, 2003 02:48 AM

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Sorry I am very tired and made a mistake. The F engine is the R-1820 the A was a Wright Whirlwind of 350 hp.

The A-17F airplane was certified but there are no data plates, remains or paper work known to use as the basis of a rebuild in the FAA's eyes. I have been trying for a while to find this type of info on either of the two airplanes. A conversion would have to be registered in the experimental category. As would a replica, unless you wanted to go through the certification process again!

Chris...

Lucky · Dec 25, 2003 11:05 AM

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Thanks Chris...

I knew you would fix things for me. I have a CD with 50 or so images of that day in Tucson. Some of the images are a bit artsy fartsy but, that is what you get with me as the photographer.

Lucky Pyatt
Tucson AZ

cwmcmillin · Dec 25, 2003 01:04 PM

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Really nice pictures Lucky. The Staggerwing always lends itself to artsy pictures anyway so I'd love to see them, of course.

Chris...

Trostle · Dec 25, 2003 04:15 PM

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Keith

iroquois · Dec 29, 2003 01:34 PM

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Surely the early models had fixed gear. I find the combination of spats and radial engines irresistable, so the beautiful machine you have pictured is second best.

cwmcmillin · Dec 29, 2003 05:23 PM

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Serial 1 and 2, 17R's and serial 5 and 11, A-17F's were semi fixed gear biplanes with huge pants that enclosed the wheels which retracted up into the pants a few inches.

Beauty is, of course, in the eye of the beholder, but since I have had the pleasure of operating Daves B-17R serial 38, my Dad's D-17S serial 4867 and given hours of dual instruction in Bud Fuchs D-17S serial 6911, I have to say so far the retractables are my favorite.

Chris...