Brodak ARF Oriental

Yesterday, Bob Zambelli asked me to take a couple of pics of the prototype and post them. Here goes...

Happy New Year!

Hope JOHN can keep up with the supply and demand.

LOOKS GOOD

The Brodak ARFS will be much better than the Topflight ARFS. At least you won't have to replace the control system or Add a moveable leadout setup. Hopefully, the fuel tank will hold at least 4 1/2 ounces of fuel.

Having a qualified individual who actually flies controline stunt performing the R&D on the Brodak ARF will make a lot of difference in the arfness of the aircraft.

You are really moaning and groaning way too much.

Less than a year ago we (I!) was convinced that the Nobler Arf was an elaborate hoax. If you ask 90% (and maybe more) of those who actually bought the TF Nobler Arf, they will tell you that it was the deal of the year, if not the best deal in the history of CL stunt. $99 for a competition quality plane--and basically ready to go at that.

Yes it had some warts (the leadouts being the main problem), but I defy you to find any other existing 35 sized planes/kits which can consistently build up with tank and engine to a weight of approximately 40 oz!

Not too bad of a first effort for a bunch of ignoramus RC idiots!

Yes I have great hopes for the Brodak arfs too, but do you really think you would be seeing them right now if it hadn't been for LAST years Nobler and Flite Steak?

Very well said and nuff said at that!

I didn't read any moans or groans in De's post, all I read was a few comments that he expects the Brodak ARFS to be better. I don't think anybody can argue that point.

Boy talking ARF's or BOM on this board is like talking religion or politics... Somebody always gets their panties in a wad and starts a war...

Yeah, but is it going to cost $99.00?

> Yeah, but is it going to cost $99.00?

Anything under $200.00 is going to be a good deal, maybe even a great deal to some of us.

Good observations De. I agree, John Brodak obviously listened to modelers complaints about the TF Nobler and is incorporating their desires in his ARF efforts.

BTW Allen, De Hill, along with 6 other Gluedobbers each purchased the TF Nobler as well as the Flight Streak. We all welcomed it gleefully and were generally pleased with their efforts. We even had a Flite Streak ARF event at our contest.

Is it too early to sign up for the OrientARF? Will Leonard take orders for them? Are they made in China or some ex-Soviet State? Steve

Hello, ARF enthusiasts. This will be short as I have very limited internet access.
The prototype ARF flew on December 27 and with the usual trim adjustments, it is turning out to be a very fine flyer.
It will be offered as an ARF and ARC (C=cover).
It assembles light, is straightforward and the quality is first rate. Regarding price, availability dates, ordering info, etc, please contact Brodak's at
For any technical information, features, power requirements, etc, you can call me at home, at 215 721 6593, 6:00 PM on, EST. (keep trying as I may not be able to return all calls), or e-mail me at . I'll be back at the office on Monday.
At this point, Brodak's and I are the only sources of information on the ARF oriental.
I look forward to hearing from you!
Are there more ARFs on the way? Could be!
Bob Zambelli

<<..ignoramus R/C idiots...>>

Well, I see elitism is alive and well in C/L.

I was beginning to wonder if such was limited to the old-time-planker/helicopter-hater crowd, pattern community, "big bird" flyers, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

Alan, for info, the two gents involved with the development of the ARF Nobler and Flite Streak, are both cl types. They just work for an RC outfit, that brought us the CL ARFs. Be nice.

>You are really moaning and groaning way too much.
>
>Less than a year ago we (I!) was convinced that the Nobler
>Arf was an elaborate hoax. If you ask 90% (and maybe more)
>of those who actually bought the TF Nobler Arf, they will
>tell you that it was the deal of the year, if not the best
>deal in the history of CL stunt. $99 for a competition
>quality plane--and basically ready to go at that.
>
>Yes it had some warts (the leadouts being the main problem),
>but I defy you to find any other existing 35 sized
>planes/kits which can consistently build up with tank and
>engine to a weight of approximately 40 oz!
>
>Not too bad of a first effort for a bunch of ignoramus RC
>idiots!
>
>Yes I have great hopes for the Brodak arfs too, but do you
>really think you would be seeing them right now if it hadn't
>been for LAST years Nobler and Flite Steak?

Alan, does your NoblARF have different leadouts and fuel tank? I got one from Santa and am about to dig into it. Specifics please on the leadouts and tank config changes you made. Tanks! BTW -
we both flew at Milwaukee this summer and I remember your NoblARF doing quite well and a sweet motor too! Nice job!
Joe

Just Joe

What is the nose cowling made of? Wonder if it is fiberglass like the Nobler. Is the picture of the nose just bad; the nose looks really ugly in the photo. However I applaud the effort and if its done by John you can bet it will be top quality.
Brian

Hi , Brian - yes, the cowl is fiberglass - it's the first prototype I molded and the photo really does not do it justice - I had just flown it and it was coated with usual accumulation of castor and some water from a puddle landing. I will try and post a better picture tomorrow - you won't be disappointed!

Regarding the plane itself, it seems to be better every flight. Quite a few pepole have now flown it and the comments are all positive. It is very user friendly with no surprizes.

With a Fox .35, plastic spinner, 10-6 wooden prop and tongue muffler, it weighs just under 37 ounces and is a tad noseheavy. We flew it with the Brodak .40 and the runs were excellent but with the slight additional weight of the .40 and a stock muffler, it was even more noseheavy.

As I said before, contact John for ordering information.

I'm out of time!!!!
Bob Zambelli

I can attest to the comments about the cowl.....the prototype is quite workmanlike and very serviceable, as well as being a good fit!

I would imagine that these will be available as parts, too, so that fitting additional power plants will be possible without carving the cowl into non-existence.

See Ya

>I can attest to the comments about the canopy.....the
>prototype is quite workmanlike and very serviceable, as well
>as being a good fit!
>
>I would imagine that these will be available as parts, too,
>so that fitting additional power plants will be possible
>without carving the canopy into non-existence.
>
>See Ya
>
>Peabody

Gee Rich if I've got to carve up the CANOPY to change the engine, something might be a little off somewhere.

Sorry, my bad, I do have a better picture of the cowl, it is really slick! Note: I posted 4 or 5 pics as one file, which as you know must be less than 50k. So each pic you are seeing was shot in HR, but reduced to a mere 10k or less each,it was a quick way to put up several pics at one time.

Thanks!

>Yesterday, Bob Zambelli asked me to take a couple of pics of
>the prototype and post them. Here goes...
>
>Happy New Year!
>
>Mary

Thanks for the update. Is it just me, or did the original posting with photos disappear without a trace *before* the recent crash? I wanted to show it to my dad, and for the life of me could not find it. I guessed it might have been pulled because it was considered premature or something (cat out of the bag too early). But this posting seems to contradict that. Just curious.

Nice looking ship...

First, Thanks for the photos Mary.

I have been a proponent of the ARFs from the word go. Without getting into a big brew-ha about BOM and all that stuff. I like them because I can spend 100 bucks and have a ship that is a capable flyer. For this sport flyer that is a real blessing. I can practice without fear of busting up 150 hours of work plus about $300.00 in parts and paint. I still build and will continue to do so for my own enjoyment and satisfaction. BUT, for practice, I'm going to wear my Nobler ARF out and will buy an Oriental the minute they are available for the same reason. Will the ARF/ARC planes bring the masses to CL. The jury is out on that one but I do wonder if RC would have as many flyers as they do now if ARFs hadn't come along.

Right on John. My feelings exactly. I plan on getting one as soon as I get the money.

Guys - here are some better pictures of the cowl. The venturi and NV holes are a bit off as it was originally cut for the Brodak .40.
Bob Z