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Bob Reeves · Jan 05, 2004 10:44 AM

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Hi all,

As some of you may have noticed I am building a Skylark with a Super Tigre 46 for Classic. I am thinking I would like to run a 3 blade prop with a classic needle nose spinner.

The question is what props and spinners are currently available. I looked at Bollys on Tom's site and it looks like the only thing close might be the 11.25 x 6.5. Anyone have any experience with this prop on a ST 46? Will it need to be re-pitched to "6".

Any other ideas on prop and spinner?

Thanks
Bob

Brett Buck · Jan 05, 2004 11:26 AM

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>Hi all,
>
>As some of you may have noticed I am building a Skylark with
>a Super Tigre 46 for Classic. I am thinking I would like to
>run a 3 blade prop with a classic needle nose spinner.
>
>The question is what props and spinners are currently
>available. I looked at Bollys on Tom's site and it looks
>like the only thing close might be the 11.25 x 6.5. Anyone
>have any experience with this prop on a ST 46? Will it need
>to be re-pitched to "6".

Tom's site? I thought Randy sold Bollys.

I have run the 11.25-6.5, and I did indeed run it down to 6. It was not nearly as good as the 12-6 2-blade, or the various Rev-Up 2-blade 12-6, 13-6 and 13-5 modifications I had. This *is* a case where more efficiency helps, and you don't necessarily have far more power than you need. And other arguments aside, diameter does indeed generally improve efficiency. But there's only one way to find out if it's a good tradeoff.

Randy sells 3-blade spinners, and you can order them from Tru-Turn.

Brett

Bill Little · Jan 05, 2004 01:23 PM

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Tom Dixon does carry some Bolly props. I just got two 10 1/2 X 6 1/2 3 blades from him. He also has Dave Brown 3 bld. spinners (look like the Tru Turn).

Randy Smith has the 3 blade spinners in a Veco clone both "Classic" and Needle Nose in 2 inch. 1 3/4 inch, also, in the needle nose.

Bill <><

Disclaimer: I am neither a NATS Champion, engine reworker, engine producer, column writer, Hobby Shop owner, *rockeet* scientist, nor otherwise. Just an old Advanced flier.

Bob Reeves · Jan 05, 2004 03:07 PM

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Ya I really meant "Randy's site", was communicating with Tom Lay via email and had a brain fa*t.

Randy doesn't list an 11-5 3 blade, didn't think to ask Tom Lay about props. I may have to re-think this and see if I can get enough ground clearance for a 12 inch 2 blade. Couldn't get away with less than two of the Bolly's and not sure I need to have $80+ bucks tied up in props for what isn't going to be my main stunter.

Thanks for the help guys.

Bill Little · Jan 06, 2004 07:57 AM

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Hi Bob,
I know Tom Lay, in the past and now too, I guess, has Eather props.
Could be an Eather he is talking about for the 11-5 on the 46.(??)
Bill <><


Disclaimer: I am neither a NATS Champion, engine reworker, engine producer, column writer, Hobby Shop owner, *rockeet* scientist, nor otherwise. Just an old Advanced flier.

cyberflyer · Jan 05, 2004 11:30 AM

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I've got two ST.46's being prepared by Tom Lay now.

One will be for the SMP Skylark kit (the other for a Stilletto 660) and I asked Tom what the best prop he would recommend for the ST .46/Skylark combination.

His response:

11x 5 1/2, 3-blade sq.tip., non-undercambered is good for the .46.
They are $45 +5 for box, and priority shipping.

Good luck with your Skylark.

Cy.

cyberflyer · Jan 17, 2004 01:06 PM

Tom Lay sends me a ST.46 3-blade Prop#19 source
So, I cranked up an order to Tom Lay for the 11 X 5 1/2 three-bladed prop he had recommended by email in response to my query about what would be good for my ST .46 in the SMP Skylark and sent it out.

The other day I got back a wonderful carbon fiber three bladed prop, thick airfoil, square tips with a little bevel to flip the vortex out of the prop disd and a note.

Seems he had contacted members of the Tucson Stunt Mafia and determined that 11 X 5 3/4 was a better choice for the altitude out here in the desert, so he tweaked my order by 1/4 pitch on the fly and sent me the best prop for the job.

Is that thoughtful service or what?

"Sometimes you don't get what you want, but if you just try, you get what you need"

Cy

Randy · Jan 05, 2004 12:40 PM

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I always used an 11x5 3 blade Bolly (don't know if they are still avilable) and, of course, the ever popular PW prop: 11.3x5.25 2 blade Zinger.

Randy Powell

GLBahrman · Jan 05, 2004 02:21 PM

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Leonard sells Bolly's also

Bob Reeves · Jan 05, 2004 03:16 PM

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>Leonard sells Bolly's also

Didn't know that, I love Leonard to death for what he has done with this board but almost every time I have emailed him about buying something I never seem to get a timely reply so I quit asking...

Steve Helmick · Jan 05, 2004 11:15 PM

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Windy has the nice std. and needle nose spinners in 1.75" and 2.0". He said he would have 2.25" and 2.5" in needle nose by this time, but I haven't checked back. He offers them in both 2 and 3 blade. My impression was that he was going to be getting these made himself, not getting them from Randy. Price is the same or close enough, service good.

Bob, I don't know how come you have trouble communicating with Leonard. I don't have a problem, and his service has been quite speedy. Sometimes he has to wait for mufflers from BA or props, etc., from Randy or Brodak. I even got one of those SSW tuned engines, no problem, arranged by email. Just my experience. Steve

wmiii · Jan 05, 2004 11:49 PM

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Don't rule out the Rev-Up 111/5 x 6. I have used the bolly 111/4x61/4
3 blade with very good results. Randy's spinners are very good as are tru-turns.

Walter

wmiii · Jan 05, 2004 11:50 PM

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Read 111/2x6

cyberflyer · Jan 06, 2004 10:23 AM

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> Read 111/2x6

Or maybe: 11 1/2 X 6

Cy

LeagueCityRalph · Jan 15, 2004 05:48 PM

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Or even 11½ x 6 . . .

cyberflyer · Jan 17, 2004 11:03 AM

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Better yet.

VonKobelt · Jan 14, 2004 10:54 PM

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Brian Eather has a range of 3 blade props ranging from 10"-13" in
varying pitches.

Bill Sawyer · Jan 15, 2004 12:42 AM

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>Brian Eather has a range of 3 blade props ranging from
>10"-13" in
>varying pitches.
Does he have a web site?

VonKobelt · Jan 15, 2004 03:47 PM

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cwmcmillin · Jan 16, 2004 10:55 PM

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My Skylark ended up very noseheavy with a Tigre 46 and a Veco 2 inch needle nose with a 3/4 inch extention. I was even using a wooden prop. Eventually it ended up with a plastic spinner, tongue muffler and a wood Rev Up 11x5 prop, and a bunch of lead in the tail. Good luck, it is a nice flying model.
Chris...