Flamable Material

I've become concerned about the amount of flamable material I have in my shop. I think there is enough to not only blow my entire dwelling to kingdom come, but it would probably take two or three neighborhood homes down with it.

What type of storage cabinets are available and where is the best place to get one?

If you have a W. W. Grainger outlet nearby, they sell many different types and sizes of storage cabinets for flammables.

Rick you might ask over at finishmaster paint store on 61st or call one of the big auto paint sellers they can set you up with the type of cabinets that is required for such items but they are not cheap by any means and over north of I-44 on 169 close to pine is a graniger outlet there also here in tulsa

the superglue fool

steve

P.S. if you dont see this by tomorrow night i was tell you at the meeting

catdaddy,

Unless you are even nuttier than I think you are, as in storing huge quantities of volatile fluids, my advice is to quit worrying about it.

Whenever a non-modeling friend (and I do have a few) or neighbor comments on the thinners, nitro, methanol, kerosene, blah, blah, blah stored in my shop and/or garage, I ask them a simple question: "Do you park a car with a half-tank of gasoline in your garage, this attached to your house?"

Give 'em a minute, they usually come around to realizing what they do as a matter of course is at least as potentially dangerous as anything you are likely to be doing.

"Do you park a car with a
>half-tank of gasoline in your garage, this attached to your
>house?"
>

GREAT! Where do I get a storage cabinet for my car.

Nutty??? I've been called allot of things but never nutty.

Nutty??? I've been called allot of things but never nutty.

regards,
Rick "catdaddy" Blankenship

Rick,

I apologize most profusely.

But if not nutty, what other things, exactly, have you been called?

And which of these descriptions apply directly to you?

Just after some guidelines here.

LAST EDITED ON Jan-08-04 AT 04:48 PM (CDT)
 
>Rick,
>
>I apologize most profusely.
>
>But if not nutty, what other things, exactly, have you been
>called?
>
>And which of these descriptions apply directly to you?
>
>Just after some guidelines here.
>
>Dan

Dan,
No need to apologize. I was just astonished that a great word-smith such as yourself could only come up with "nutty"

As far as guidelines, pick any of the many adjectives that have been directed at you and it would be safe to assume they've been hurled in my direction as well, most of which Len does not allow to be printed in his forum.

insert annoying icon here.

Hey Catdaddy: How exactly do I get to your place? Thought I might come by and smoke a few Marlboros.

mitch,
Don't you have to be in court this morning defending some pathetic piece of white trash that needs his workmans comp check to buy beer and pork rinds.

Nope. I would be defending The Man and trying to hold down the "injured worker," denying all benefits entitled under the law.

>Nope. I would be defending The Man and trying to hold down
>the "injured worker," denying all benefits entitled under
>the law.

That's right, I forgot you turned to the dark side.

>>Nope. I would be defending The Man and trying to hold down
>>the "injured worker," denying all benefits entitled under
>>the law.
>
>That's right, I forgot you turned to the dark side.
>
>regards,
>Rick "catdaddy" Blankenship

Embrace it...
Embrace it...

if you have a lot of fuel or thinner I'd be concerned too. Even with 10 gal of gas in the car. Most places have laws about how much you can have in a garage, but they aren't enforced much.

If you can't or don't want to spend $600-1000 on flammables cabinet, just store all the really flammable stuff like dope thinner down on the floor. In a fire all the heat goes up, so stuff on the floor may not even get singed. Maybe Wild Bill can chime in here. He had a disasterous fire years ago but the fuel on the floor hardly got warm. The real fire hazard is all the balsa and dope built into tinder dry planes hanging up near the ceiling!

Thanks Phil,
All the cans are currently stored on the floor.
I'm now considering a small metal storage shed located a reasonable distance from the shops back door.

Some years ago a friend passed away and Beatriz, his wife, knowing that I had geven him a Veci .19 BB made a point ai\out of giving it back to me.

I knew that the crazy bastatd had brought from the US a six pack of "Grolshc" beer, that brand that doens't have caps in the bottles, instead it has a rubber cork with some wire structure that keeps them airtight.

The only problem ws that there was no beer in that six pack, is was all nitro, and a very good one!

He brought that six pack on him, as hand luggage.

Nobody suspected (maybe nowaqdays theer would be soem checking in that "beer" and all went OK, the plane didn't explode and he didn't get busted.

But, back to his wife, I fek\lt I should let her know that tehere was a jug fulla nitro somewhere in the house.

WE found it, and I recommended her to kep it in the fridge.

She waqs goig to throw it away, and I said I'd take it.

I took it home and kept it in the fridge.

Some monts later I postsd a question about how to "debond" a wing that came out warped.

Somebody told me that nitro was a good debonder.

I thanked him and said that this suited me fine, since I had a quart of nitro in my refrigertor.

The guy thought I was joking, and got angry.

I had to assure him that I actuallly had a quart of nitro in my fridge,...

Ion

I

catdaddy,

When I write something like

"Rick,

I apologize most profusely," you can be assured that I am kidding and certainly not actually apologizing.

If some of that flammable stuff is methanol, get it *off* the floor. Same deal with nitromenthane, although not to such a degree. And of course mixed fuel should never be placed directly on a concrete floor.

Neat trick putting nitro into beer bottles. A couple trips to Russia I put nitro in hair shampoo bottles. Hardly an original idea, probably wouldn't do it today; but we had a serious need for at least some nitro during a couple trips.

>catdaddy,
>
>When I write something like
>
>"Rick,
>
>I apologize most profusely," you can be assured that I am
>kidding and certainly not actually apologizing.
>
>If some of that flammable stuff is methanol, get it *off*
>the floor. Same deal with nitromenthane, although not to
>such a degree. And of course mixed fuel should never be
>placed directly on a concrete floor.

>Dan

Really?...It never occured to me that the most sarcastic person in stunt really wasn't serious about an apology. You're really not that hard to read...funny yes...clever no.

When I said flammable stuff was now on the floor I should have been more specific. I know how you like people to be specific.

It's either on a very low cabinet shelf or 2x4 pallet on the floor.

guess I should have said down low. It's never a good idea to store stuff directly on concrete, esp. if it is a slab on the ground. Steel cans will rust from moisture. Partially filled plastic jugs will "pump" in moisture from the temperature changes. Wood will rot, and so will tires. Just keep the flammables down low so they won't catch fire right away when the planes go up.

>If some of that flammable stuff is methanol, get it *off*
>the floor. Same deal with nitromenthane, although not to
>such a degree. And of course mixed fuel should never be
>placed directly on a concrete floor.

Why's that?

>>If some of that flammable stuff is methanol, get it *off*
>>the floor. Same deal with nitromethane, although not to
>>such a degree. And of course mixed fuel should never be
>>placed directly on a concrete floor.
>
>Why's that?
>
>Preston

Moisture.

>>>If some of that flammable stuff is methanol, get it *off*
>>>the floor. Same deal with nitromethane, although not to
>>>such a degree. And of course mixed fuel should never be
>>>placed directly on a concrete floor.
>>
>>Why's that?
>>
>>Preston
>
>Moisture.
>
>Dan

How does the Moisture get into a tightly sealed container?

>>>And of course mixed fuel should never be
>>>placed directly on a concrete floor.

>>Why's that?

>Moisture.

Expanding a bit...
So the concrete is cold, cooling the fuel below the dewpoint
of the air inside the container, causing some of the moisture
to condense? So Ion's quart of nitro in the the fridge is perhaps
in trouble? Or that fuel I've got stored out in my unheated garage?

How does the Moisture get into a tightly sealed container?

Terry

I believe you will find it takes the same path in that volatile ingredients take in getting out.

And I probably should have mentioned my assumption that at least some of catdaddy's volatile liquids are being stored in plastic jugs.

If using (preferred) lined steel containers, or in my case actual five-gallon fuel jugs produced expressly for transport and storage of methanol, you can probably store them wherever convenient, although I would still avoid concrete floors or any spot directly beneath a rain gutter down spout.

But that's just me and y'all can do whatever you like.

>I believe you will find it takes the same path in that
>volatile ingredients take in getting out.

Hmmm, so I'm all wet?
Thought so.

Fumes that gather at floor level, are at a good height for a furnace or pilot light or hot water heater or a dryer to kick it off.