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Randy Ryan · Jan 19, 2004 10:52 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Jan-20-04 AT 00:27 AM (CDT)
 
Several guys asked that I keep a progressive thread going on the construction of a Vivell .09 diesel. I've made a number of entries but no feedback. Should I keep on going or give it up?

Randy Ryan
AMA 8500
SAM 36
I fly 'em all and love it!

preston · Jan 19, 2004 10:57 PM

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Please keep going.

Preston

WINGWALK · Jan 19, 2004 11:01 PM

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Randy,

Even though I haven't replied. I enjoy reading about the projects you and others have written about. I for one have been learning about things like the older engines and deisel motors from you guys. I may not fly them...Yet, but knowledge of different things is a good thing.


Kirk

Brett Buck · Jan 19, 2004 11:06 PM

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>Several guys asked that I keep a progressive thread going on
>the construction of a Vivell .09 deisel. I've made a number
>of entries but no feedback.


We are all struck dumb with admiration.

Brett

Randy Ryan · Jan 20, 2004 10:24 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Jan-20-04 AT 10:26 AM (CDT)
 
Coming from you Brett I take that as a high compliment. Thanks, and thanks to everyone else as well, only Bill Little was been sickened by my efforts. TFIC

Randy Ryan
AMA 8500
SAM 36
I fly 'em all and love it!

Bill Little · Jan 21, 2004 06:13 PM

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Ok, Randy
You got me! TFIC???????? That's one I can't fiure out right now.
Bill <><


Disclaimer: I am neither a NATS Champion, engine reworker, engine producer, column writer, Hobby Shop owner, *rockeet* scientist, nor otherwise. Just an old Advanced flier.

Howard Rush · Jan 19, 2004 11:08 PM

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Please continue. I agree with Brett.

Crist Rigotti · Jan 19, 2004 11:10 PM

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Keep going. I like watching the engine come together. I like the pics of your jigs too!

Crist Rigotti
"A driver trying to be a pilot."
http://www.clguy.com

Pete Munroe · Jan 19, 2004 11:31 PM

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Randy,

Building an engine...this is WAY beyond shaping/butchering balsa...a real precision project unfolding for an audience that appreciates the process and LOVES the end product...an airplane engine!

Keep going...I enjoy it.

Those that do machining on the old engines, how do you re-bush cranks?, how do you chrome sleeves?, etc...most of us do not really know the processes a machinist would use to do some stuff that is probably pretty simple to those that know, but fascinating those that do not.

Pete

DennisV · Jan 20, 2004 12:08 AM

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PLEASE keep on going with the pictures of your progress. I love the pictures of the work you are doing. Thanks for your effort in sharing with us.
DennisV

iroquois · Jan 20, 2004 12:14 AM

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Keep it going, but please spell it 'diesel'.

Randy Ryan · Jan 20, 2004 12:28 AM

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Thanks guys, I'll keep it going.

Dave. I did spell it diesel, whata' ya' talkin' about??

Randy Ryan
AMA 8500
SAM 36
I fly 'em all and love it!

Iskandar Taib · Jan 20, 2004 04:44 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Jan-20-04 AT 04:48 AM (CDT)
 
Where's the link to the thread?

(Oh what the heck - here they are:

http://www.clstunt.com/htdocs/dcforum/DCForumID1/7470.html
http://www.clstunt.com/htdocs/dcforum/DCForumID1/7456.html

)

Dick Fowler · Jan 20, 2004 09:30 AM

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If you don't ..... YOU"LL GO BLIND !

Randy Ryan · Jan 20, 2004 10:32 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Jan-20-04 AT 04:52 PM (CDT)
 
BAH! They been tellin' me that fer years!! My vision is a little blurrued though!??

Randy Ryan
AMA 8500
SAM 36
I fly 'em all and love it!

Ty Marcucci · Jan 20, 2004 01:02 PM

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I have the highest regard for anyone that can turn out engines. I have played with a lathe while teaching at a tech school. It was donated to us and no one knew how to use it. The machine shop had dozens, this was given to the Diesel Mechs part of the school. I was amazed at what I could do with it. Don't stop, I am in total awe of your jewels being produced, and they work!!

Ion Muniz · Jan 20, 2004 01:35 PM

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I have a serious complaint, Randy!

This is inadmissible!

A scandal!

YOU DIDN'T POST ANY PICS!!!!

Bro, more!!

Please!

God bless ya!

Ion

Randy Ryan · Jan 20, 2004 04:47 PM

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AHWRIGHT!! I be posting the latest tonight, maybe a second thread, the other's getting a little slow to open.

Randy Ryan
AMA 8500
SAM 36
I fly 'em all and love it!

Proparc · Jan 21, 2004 12:23 AM

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>Several guys asked that I keep a progressive thread going on
>the construction of a Vivell .09 diesel. I've made a number
>of entries but no feedback. Should I keep on going or give
>it up?
>
>Randy Ryan
>AMA 8500
>SAM 36
>I fly 'em all and love it!

Even though most of us are not going to build "super" semi scale Mustangs, Al Rabes Snaggletooth posts were extremely entertaining and informative. Your posts on the Vivell are just as informative and entertaining. Some people may not reply because were not machinist, but that doesn't mean we are not "checking out" your stuff.

Milton Graham\Proparc

Rustler · Jan 21, 2004 05:20 PM

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KEEP GOING. THE SILENT MAJORITY IS ROOTIN' FOR YOU.

Ian R.

Randy Ryan · Jan 21, 2004 07:05 PM

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Thanks Ian,

I knew you were out there somewhere!

Randy Ryan
AMA 8500
SAM 36
I fly 'em all and love it!

Dr Spark · Jan 21, 2004 06:44 PM

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Randy. I presume you have all past issues of "Strictly I.C." magazine. Too bad this publication is no longer avalable. It featured engine construction articles and photos of some of the most amazing little engines! For instance: a tiny Rolls-Royce Merlin, or a scale 9-cylinder Wright Whirlwind. My friend in Austria sells finished WW I Mercedes aircraft engines-- only 9" long! Plus many other small diesels.

I have contributed a dozen articles to the magazine, and the only issues I have saved are the ones with my articles in them.

Few of us are capable of building engines. It takes a whole shop load of expensive stuff to cut metal.

Floyd

Randy Ryan · Jan 21, 2004 07:04 PM

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Hi Floyd,

Actually I don't, as a matter of fact I have very little in the way of engine building pubs for several reasons. I was without machinery for 14 years and did no building at all. Dad used to get Strictly IC along with some other pubs and I go through them when I need something. Now that I have a small lathe and mill I'm doing allot of stuff I'd backlogged over the years defering to the time I'd be able to. The only reason I was able to get back up and running so quickly is that I had all my tooling pickled and stored all those years since I shut down my commercial machine shop. I only had to buy some collets and a few cemented lath tools and I was off.

Randy Ryan
AMA 8500
SAM 36
I fly 'em all and love it!

Steve Helmick · Jan 21, 2004 11:07 PM

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Don't stop. I was pleased to see a picture of your lathe with the carriage micro-stop, so now I know how you did that. There was some other accessory that you made that I was interested in, but can't recall what it was. I would like to make a quick change toolpost. It would be neat if you'd back up with the camera and get a picture of your lathe and especially the mill. I have no idea what mill you have. Seeing your fixturing is always interesting. I've been "in the trade" for 30 years now, and I've often thought about how to fixture up a crankcase, where to start on the casting, etc.

It's been many years (20+) since I was an engine lathe operator at Boeing. Ran a lot of different brands, Lodge & Shipley's were my fav's, "EE Monarch" were ok, the Axleson was great for drilling, with the two speed tailstock.

It's always a challenge to do what you have to...with what you have...when it's sometimes not the "right way" to do it! I'm making some little bitty parts at work right now...a 1.5" vise would be perfect...the 6" vise is tough to get hold of the part without crushing it. A toolmaker's vise would be perfect, but the company isn't going to buy one, and I'm sure not about to.

Keep up the good work and keep posting the pics. Steve

Randy Ryan · Jan 22, 2004 07:24 AM

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Hi Steve,

I think the other accessory you saw was the carriage lock on the lathe. For the life of me I can't figure out why that basic of all features was not included but it wasn't. Its the same blank as the mic-stop but bolted to the side of the carriage. Its a little hard to get to but I leave the wrench in it so that helps. The mic stop on the other hand needs a redesign. I've got the lock bolt going into the bottom and its difficult to get the wrench into.

Fixturing as you already know is the key to getting accuracy and consistancy especially with castings. Getting them qualified and secure can be a real challenge with such small parts as they're very easy to distort. None of the castings I've ever purchased have had locators incorporated, so the setup of the parts is purely up to the machinist. in some of the early photos you'l see traces of layout ink. I dot the centers so I have a reference to check against when the part in on the machine. I have a 12x18 granite plate which makes layout a whole lot easier.

There are some stand back shots of the machines, but I'll get some better ones for you.

I had an old 16-60 Lodge & Shipley, my favorite machine. I built a Bantam .16 on it and it was hillarious, the cylinder was almost invisible in that 14" 4-jaw! But I'll tell you I could do the most accurate work with that old hulk, it was scarry. Beautiful lathe from 1927, a converted lineshaft machine at that.

I have to get busy and make a little vise, I have a 3" Phase III on a swivel base and it's still HUGE on the table of the mill.

Randy Ryan
AMA 8500
SAM 36
I fly 'em all and love it!