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Phil Hawkins · Feb 26, 2004 02:42 AM

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Hey guys,

I just picked up a Nobler ARF and would like to give it the classic GMA white trim.

My question is has anyone tried painting over the fiberglass cowl? If so what paint works? Rustoleum? I will try a very small area before giving it the full shot, just trying to narrow it down before spending $. Plus on the nose, are there any pitfalls to covering white Monokote over the already applied blue? or do I need to strip off the blue first?

Also the instuctions show using stick on weights for the wing tip before opening the wing up and installing. I plan on going with a weight box. Has this proven to be a worthy addition or a waste of time and money?

I am not sure what version of this plane I got. It only came with the 6 oz plastic clunk tank. I have several unfinished planes going at the same time so I will be assembling this thing slowly over the next few weeks. I have not decided yet what mods I will do for the level of flying that I do... Sad but (possibly) true, the best plane I will have to fly was built by Chinese school girls!

wcrane · Feb 26, 2004 09:06 AM

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Would be interesting to see how many coats of Rustoleum it would take, I'd scuff it and then hit it with a primer coat first. I used Moneykoats rattle cans before, but it was very thin and didn't cover nicely.

The tip weight box is only worth it if you intend to trim your model. I don't have one on mine, yet. Same for tip guides.

Trim tape is usually opaque enough to cover without removing the covering. That isn't Insignia Blue by the way, it's the Saphire. You'll no doubt need a little touch up

From somewhere near Parkville, Mo.
William Crane
AMA 6733

Stunt1 · Feb 26, 2004 05:39 PM

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Stunt1
Here is a picture of mine and the paint job I used. It's all white "Rustoleum" paint.
I didn't rough up the surface of the Monokote, but if I were to do it again I would use either 600 wet and dry paper or maybe some steel wool for a slightly better adhesion.

Regards,

Mr. 1969 NATS
Bob Lampione

(Editor's note: Bob sent me the photo which I cropped and compressed so it could be posted here.)

peabody · Feb 26, 2004 06:32 PM

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Champione....what happened to your pictures?

Were they pre or post tail removal?

Fill Mr. Yampolski in on the power of you 1969 Nat's winning United?

See Ya

Peabody

Airacobra · Feb 26, 2004 11:01 PM

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>Champione....what happened to your pictures?
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>Were they pre or post tail removal?
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>Fill Mr. Yampolski in on the power of you 1969 Nat's winning
>United?
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>See Ya
>
>Peabody


I think Bob was using a Fox 35 and an F-86 in Thunderbird clothes for the 69 Nats.

Bill Little · Feb 26, 2004 11:17 PM

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Hi Keith!
How's the plans on the P-39 coming along?
Well, as to Mr. '69 NATS' '69 plane and engine, I talked to him tonight. He got home from the hospital yesterday. He flew the F-86 Sabre with a Fox 35 and a rev up 10 X 6 EW prop. (Of course there were many here that missed my three posts about that on the Walker Cup post) HAHAHA!!!!!
Bill <><
P.S. I think Mr. Peabody is just pulling Champione's chain.

Just an Old Advanced flyer.

Phil Hawkins · Feb 27, 2004 01:03 AM

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I like it Bob!


I had figured that the low solvent content of Rustoleum would not react negatively to the Top flight paint.

I have decided to run mine with an L&J Fox 35... or maybe an OS FP 35...FP 40??? LA 46??? Oh No, here I go again!

LNeumann · Feb 27, 2004 08:50 AM

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>I like it Bob!
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> I had figured that the low solvent content of Rustoleum
>would not react negatively to the Top flight paint.
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> I have decided to run mine with an L&J Fox 35... or maybe
>an OS FP 35...FP 40??? LA 46??? Oh No, here I go again!

Aw, put in a Brodak 40 and don't give those guys at Great Planes the satisfaction of using one of their engines.

Phil Hawkins · Feb 27, 2004 01:44 PM

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I have an L&J modified OS 46 LA to trade for a Brodak 40... Any takers?

Alan Hahn · Feb 27, 2004 02:06 PM

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I would go with the L&J Fox 35. It really should be a perfect match (especially weight) for the Nobler. My Brodak 40 works very well to in my NoblerArf, and it too is nice and light.

dirtydan · Feb 27, 2004 03:19 PM

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Phil,

When it comes to applying white MonoKote over the sapphire blue, you will be real disappointed. Not only will the covered areas be heavier than would otherwise be the case, the blue will show right through the white.

I have mentioned this before, but it seems to me that the easiest way to avoid having your model look exactly like all the others is to remove panels of MonoKote on the wing and maybe even the fuselage, especially aft of the wing. As the people applying the MonoKote are hardly nailing it down, this ought be easy. Also easy would be to slide cut-to-size sheets of contrasting MonoKote **under** the edges of stock and remaining covering, get it all positioned, seal the laps first and then to shrink covering.

Although I have done it, primarily cockpits and such, painting MonoKote is not particularly attractive. It can be done and can be done to a fairly high standard at that. It's just that if I am going to use film I avoid paint. Just as I would avoid film if I was painting a model. And even the best paint-over-film jobs do get a little scruffy around the edges given enough time and handling.

Use the L&J Fox 35.

Dan

Phil Hawkins · Feb 27, 2004 03:55 PM

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Cool, Thanks Dan,

My flying buddies are telling me "put the thing together and fly the heck out of it!"

I am going to use the Fox...

Louis · Feb 27, 2004 07:33 PM

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I totally recovered mine with Royal Blue and Yellow Monokote. Painted the cowl with Royal Blue Rustoleum.

Alan Hahn · Feb 27, 2004 09:18 PM

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That's really gorgeous. I really like blue planes with yellow wings!

You almost deserve Appearance Points!

DesignMan · Feb 27, 2004 08:05 PM

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I have personally visited the Modeltech and CS factories in China, and they are not staffed by schoolgirls, prisoners, etc. A normal spectrum of men and women work there and are certainly free to come and go as much as any worker here.

In actuality, the Chinese government has to set up special blockades to keep masses of people seeking work from overrunning these industrial zones.

Been there, seen it myself! No rumor.

Phil Hawkins · Feb 28, 2004 02:17 AM

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Larry,

I certainly did not intend to send an indictment to the Chinese government in regards to who they do or do not employ or allow to be employed... It was a "tongue in cheek, wink,wink" expression of my OWN whoafull inexperience at building a fine model airplane...

Once again my FEEBLE attempt at humor finds me with the dreaded "Foot In Mouth" affliction... Maybe my friends are right, I am earning the title "Philthy Phil"... Sorry Dan, don't you go crazy on me now!!


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