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ferocious · Feb 26, 2004 08:21 AM

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It sure would be fun to fly more planes when I go to a stunt meet. Why not fly a different plane for each flight in each event? It sure would be fun to fly a few more of those hangar queens. I never could see why swapping planes has been prohibited.

LNeumann · Feb 26, 2004 08:57 AM

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>It sure would be fun to fly more planes when I go to a stunt
>meet. Why not fly a different plane for each flight in each
>event? It sure would be fun to fly a few more of those
>hangar queens. I never could see why swapping planes has
>been prohibited.

Free flight guys have one plane for when the sky is clear. Smaller wings, higher climb, and hope to catch a thermal. For low cloud cover they use another design: a larger wing, lighter plane. It does not climb as high (better not, anyway), but, without thermals, it will float longer in what altitude it does have. We could do the same.

Imagine a situation where you have a "perfect weather" plane that you fly first flight in the morning. However, then the wind comes up and gives the other pilots fits. But you now bring out your "Super Gust Buster" that is able to manage the winds, albeit not so perfectly as plane number one in calm weather. Or another situation where we bring three planes to the contest, put all three in the appearance point judging, and then fly the one that the judge of the day rated the highest for appearance.

However, do you really want to do what you suggested? Most people take a bit of time to adjust from plane to plane (I know I would). Would you really want to switch back and forth to a plane that would fly a little different just for the sake of changing planes? And planes that are even supposed to be the same are not equal. I know I heard both David and Billy on separate occasions say they tried their various planes and brought the one to the contest that, in their opinion, was flying the best. It might be a case of the quick draw artist who manages to pull the trigger before removing the gun from the holster. The origin of the phrase, "shooting yourself in the foot."

ferocious · Feb 26, 2004 09:24 AM

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Since I really don't care what the scores are, why not fly different planes to have some more fun. It's not like your free flight example where switching planes might be a big advantage in certain situations. And what matters appearance points in events where they aren't used? Even if they are, so you put in two planes one gets13, one gets 17. You fly the 17 pointer and get a lousy score. Switching planes gets you LESS appearance points and who knows what score.

As you say, switching planes is generally not to the pilot's advantage, so why can't it be allowed?

Jim P · Feb 26, 2004 09:30 AM

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I have quite a fleet of .25 to .46 stunters, some for competition, some for fun-all do the full pattern each time up assuming a decent run and flying conditions.
I love to fly different planes also and usually will take two or three out for each outing. I seldom fly the airplanes I am going to use in competition until the week prior to contest much preferring the Warbirds, etc. or some designs I have cooked up. This is likely one of the reasons my scores suffer but I had rather have lower scores than fly the same airplane every day.

ty marcucci · Feb 26, 2004 01:30 PM

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Well, according to the rules, but not your intent, you are allowed a backup plane. Only catch is the first must be damaged beyond flight. This is not what you want. I did this at the last VSC when my Barnstormer engine went real lean and stopped in the worst possible position. I used my All American Sr. as my back up. Then of course you can fly in classic with one plane, in P40 with another, PAMPA classes with a third, which is what I do a most contests. I have fun, but very low scores, but it sure helps when the engine keeps running. Another could be flown in speed limit combat, Foxberg, and carrier. Several meets have all of these events over the two days they are run. You could tell the CD that your engine won't run and need to switch planes, and I'm sure he would let you do this. Or not. Bad thought, bad idea. But you can always ask.

iroquois · Feb 27, 2004 05:38 AM

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I'm amazed that your rules don't allow this. In the UK you are allowed 2 models and can switch from one to another. If you fly F2B, Classic and Vintage (OTS) you could fly 6 different models on one day. So far, I've managed 4. Switching from one to another is no big deal, unless you make it one. They are all stunt models. Try flying Speed and Team Race on the same day and you will see this is true.

ferocious · Feb 27, 2004 12:06 PM

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me too. I guess it is one of those tradition things over here. Probably made some sense in the 50's when even a local meet might have 50 kids flying with 50 "little league" parents trying to get their kid an edge.