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Anybody knows the exaust timing of the OS.25VF?????

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Ion Muniz · Mar 24, 2004 03:31 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Mar-24-04 AT 06:28 PM (CDT)
 
And also more questions...

I've been fiddlin' with my .25VF. and so far I got these results:

17- 1/4"pipe lenght, it breaks at 11,500 RPM

16-1/2" breaks at 12,100 RPM

After that, no use squeezing the needle, th won'tgo a single above that.

I wonder how mant degrees is it's eaxust timing.

That would give me more assurance on what I'n doming...

Randy?

Brett?


Ion

dirtydan · Mar 24, 2004 04:00 PM

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Ion,

I'm thinking this might get real ugly, real fast.

If you want more motor, get something bigger. Rooting around with tools of destruction in a nice engine is to be avoided.

Or do you have a spare piston/cylinder set to plug in when your rework goes just a little bit too far? That's how a lot of us figured out engine mods, you know. Going too far with a good thing. Replacing with new parts cut to timing found in next-to-last experiment.

Dan

Bob Reeves · Mar 24, 2004 04:41 PM

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Dan, you OK? You seem to be someplace other than in reality with a few of your replies lately. Ion is/was not grinding on the engine he is playing with the pipe and venturi. Also I believe he is in Brazil so it would be a little difficult for him to drive up your contest.

Personally I would love to come up and you could help me with the trimming of my Legacy <no smiley just for you>

Ion,

Why don't you measure it yourself, I am sure you can find instructions on the net someplace, all you need is a protractor, you can then make a degree wheel. Not that difficult....

Dave Simons · Mar 24, 2004 05:53 PM

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Ion,
You can also measure the timing using a depth micrometer and a simple program downloadable from Jim Bookers website: http://www.cedarcomm.com/~fly/

If you are contemplating messing with the exhaust timing - dont! The pipe is being used as a governor, not a power enhancement device.

Cheers, Dave

Ion Muniz · Mar 24, 2004 07:27 PM

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I'm thinking this might get real ugly, real fast.

If you want more motor, get something bigger. Rooting around with tools of destruction in a nice engine is to be avoided.

Or do you have a spare piston/cylinder set to plug in when your rework goes just a little bit too far? That's how a lot of us figured out engine mods, you know. Going too far with a good thing. Replacing with new parts cut to timing found in next-to-last experiment.

OS32 · Mar 24, 2004 04:38 PM

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Ion,
You can buy a Degree wheel or make one as I did. You might want to purchase Dave Gierke's book on 2 stroke glow motors. I know Dave can be reached in Pampa's directory. Dave is a fine man.

John Leidle

dirtydan · Mar 24, 2004 05:19 PM

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Bob,

Reality is a place I visit, although not very often.

Sounds to me as if Ion is getting ready to make chips and/or grinding dust.

There is no serious difficulty in driving from Brazil to the U.S., it just takes a little time. You forget that I was the one who corrected Ion's spelling of his F1 hero's name, Ayrton Senna.

You helped John Thompson with his Oriental, I think it only fair he get your Legacy whipped into shape.

Dan

Randy Ryan · Mar 24, 2004 06:56 PM

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Ion,

Like the guys said, you can find out for yourself with a degree wheel. I'm not sure knowing the exhaust timing will help you, I think you want to know the blowdown as well. Generally speaking somewhere between 6-8 degrees between exhaust opening and bypass opening, but not necessarily. That's not necessarily the magic trick either, there are many other things at play here. I am not familiar with this particular engine so I'll stop here. Check your Email.


Randy Ryan
AMA 8500
SAM 36
I fly 'em all and love it!

Ion Muniz · Mar 24, 2004 07:33 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Mar-24-04 AT 07:35 PM (CDT)
 
Randy, my beloved brother in Christ,

Knowing the exaust timing of my VF would give me an idea about how far should the baffle shoud be from the plug.

I guess I'm being lazy... I'm just gonna unscrew the head and meausure it myself.

I salute you with 1 John :2

Ion

Bill Little · Mar 25, 2004 07:47 AM

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Ion,

Which pipe are you using, a 40 or 32?
I would suggest a starting point of 17 inches and go from there. You know what pushing out or shortening the pipe will do, so flight testing is going to be necessary.
I would also go with the 10-4 APC at 10,800, 10% nitro, hot plug.

Bill <><

P.S. I got one (25VF) myself, and we used an OS 32F on pipe for a while.

Just an Old Advanced flyer.

Jim Pollock · Mar 25, 2004 09:46 AM

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Ion,

Since it's a VF I make a <guess> that it's timed the same as the other VF's. My .46VF was 145 degrees. I suppose that you could just start with the pipe set for that length and adjust from whatever type or run you get.

Jim Pollock

Ion Muniz · Mar 25, 2004 05:36 PM

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Bill.

II'm using what I *think* is a Nering Carbonmaster pipe, it looks just like the one I saw at FM on an article about Mike Starret, his "Eliminator" and the OS.25VF.

Ion

william henri · Mar 25, 2004 08:00 AM

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I cannot say enough good about this site! I've been messing around with engines of all sizes from 8000hp marine diesels to the Cox .10. And every day, I learn something from the collective knowledge gleaned from this site. A week or so ago, I had posted an inquiry about the NIB OS .25 VF. and .28 H and others I recently got from an estate sale in Italy, not quite knowing what to do with them as of my unfamiliarity with the size, now, not only do I have the applications for these engines, but actual planes to install them on. Thanks to all. William