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Crash2much · Apr 10, 2004 01:43 PM

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Why do some people have a aversion to spelling COX correctly?

Bill

I have no claim to fame, I build more planes than I fly, collect more kits than I build. That about says it, right?

ferocious · Apr 10, 2004 01:52 PM

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Half A motors have a deserved reputation of being hard to start and handle. So often you want to say something like " this C*x **cker won't start".

For a long time Cox also hasn't seemed to realize what the MODELERS buying their stuff really want. Their marketing seems to be focussed solely on selling commodity plastic stuff to big chains. We modelers are a small afterthought. So they kind of arbitrarily change parts, stop making certain items abruptly, and other customer unfriendly things. Also not quite sure how they do their pricing. They seem to charge premium prices for stuff that has been in production for 30 years.

Phil C

Crash2much · Apr 10, 2004 02:22 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-11-04 AT 08:16 PM (CDT)
 
Well at least Leonard wasn't offended by it enough to stop the post. I felt it was a legitimate question from the beginning.

Bill

I have no claim to fame, I build more planes than I fly, collect more kits than I build. That about says it, right?

Kreth · Apr 10, 2004 02:57 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-10-04 AT 02:58 PM (CDT)
 
In reply to the first question - - Phil's answer is not correct or he is very naive. I won't expound because there are some very nice young users of this forum. How about we just drop it.

Leornard could you remove this topic?

Kreth

faif2d · Apr 10, 2004 04:53 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-10-04 AT 04:55 PM (CDT)
 
It started when they let Larry Renger go. He was one of their most prolific and talented designers and that was the end as far as I was concerned. Larry started calling them C*X and a lot of the rest of us did to show support. They no longer have any feel at all for the average modeler. Bean counters have struck once again!!!

Phil you are better than that.

I used to like painting with dope but now I can't remember why. Steve Fauble

DesignMan · Apr 10, 2004 05:51 PM

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You got it right, Steve. Thanks for remembering.

As it happens, I still support MODELERS who use C*x products. I do not support the company. (Though I do have a soft spot for the new Hyper Viper {Sometimes, one must rise above his principles!}).

If you want a new engine, get a VA, Norvel, PAW, MP-Jet, etc. As far as I am concerned, C*x no longer makes engines worth having.

Larry Renger
think S.M.A.L.L.

sq8s · Apr 10, 2004 06:08 PM

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You are a good person Larry and we all know it!

william henri · Apr 10, 2004 06:49 PM

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The last time I called C*X for parts, I was treated like a terrorist who was out to steal their doughnuts.

TRASHCAN MAN · Apr 11, 2004 12:41 AM

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>You got it right, Steve. Thanks for remembering.
>
>As it happens, I still support MODELERS who use C*x
>products. I do not support the company. (Though I do have
>a soft spot for the new Hyper Viper {Sometimes, one must
>rise above his principles!}).
>
>If you want a new engine, get a VA, Norvel, PAW, MP-Jet,
>etc. As far as I am concerned, C*x no longer makes engines
>worth having.


2 Questions:

1. Who supplies VA engines? (I could not find them with Google)
2. What (if any) is the difference between AME and Norvel Engines?

Thanks.

JohnT4051 · Apr 11, 2004 01:15 AM

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I believe Larry Driskill (Kitting It Together) in Texas still supplies the VA engines.
Also, someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that Norvel engines are in fact Russian-made AME engines.
--jt


>1. Who supplies VA engines? (I could not find them with
>Google)
>2. What (if any) is the difference between AME and Norvel
>Engines?
>
>Thanks.

wcrane · Apr 11, 2004 03:08 AM

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Little misnomer there.

AME's ARE Norvel engines. Norvel makes Big Mig and AME engines. Big Mig are sport engines and AME are the high output, little more finiky engines.

Driskel does do the VA's and is also a source of the Nelson head adapters.

From somewhere near Parkville, Mo.
William Crane
AMA 6733

gcb · Apr 12, 2004 06:28 AM

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I think the first time I remember it spelled that way was one of your entries in a SMALLnet posting.

George

TomK · Apr 10, 2004 06:39 PM

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I think Phil's answer is completely reasonible, if not correct. If he and I are the only ones who have uttered "unspeakable" words trying to start these little buggers, you are better men than he and I.

(The correct answer is in regards to Larry, FWIW)

wcrane · Apr 10, 2004 06:56 PM

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Dang, I thought I thought of that phrase, and to think I've been upsetting some people with my response. Not near as much as the trouble I've gone through to make my lovely little Cox Product fly. They got rid of Larry, then Mikey. That company really has a talent for NOT supporting the modelers. We truly are the flea on the dogs back as far as they are concerned.

ToysRus and the like are the only ones they are worried about.

From somewhere near Parkville, Mo.
William Crane
AMA 6733

faif2d · Apr 11, 2004 10:20 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-11-04 AT 10:21 AM (CDT)
 
I don't think that C*x tee dee's are that hard to start. There is a drill that you have to learn, kind of like a Fox combat spl, but you have to learn the combination. You have to get the bladder dripping the correct amount of fuel out the venture then pinch off the fuel. A single drop of fuel on the piston, there will be a drop or so in the case from the drip test, no more than this or it is flooded! A hot battery and a few flips and off you go. Back when 1/2A combat started I won a few matches because I could start the things and everyone else was having problems. Matter of fact that is how I won most of my matches. If the other plane got up I was usually dog meat.

I used to like painting with dope but now I can't remember why. Steve Fauble

Bazzer · Apr 11, 2004 03:14 PM

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I agree, my TD is a real good starting engine about 1 in 5 attemts it goes first flick, it is just a case of getting the amount of fuel in the venturi and the piston primed correctly, although fuel draw through manuvures without pressure is marginal.

Bazzer

Norm · Apr 11, 2004 01:09 PM

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Hilarious answer and never mind the boo birds. Thanks for lightening up my day!

Iskandar Taib · Apr 11, 2004 09:57 PM

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-11-04 AT 09:58 PM (CDT)
 
You know, all this time I thought it was to discourage the discovery of this site by those plastic C*x collectors you find inhabiting ebay. Kinda like people used to spell "Kryl*n" on my old BBS to prevent the graffiti artists from finding the BBS using search engines. Of course, it didn't prevent the H*nda "Accrod" people from showing up.. (I wonder why they did.. - the Kryl*n I could understand.)

gcb · Apr 12, 2004 06:21 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-12-04 AT 06:24 AM (CDT)
 
Got any submarine blueprints?

George

Edit: Oh yes, don't forget the guy overhauling his diesel truck!

tperry2054 · Apr 11, 2004 10:00 PM

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Reminds me of; "Yes but those Fokkers were flying Meserschmits!"

Tom

gcb · Apr 12, 2004 06:31 AM

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Wow Tom, that's an oldie...but still a goodie.

George

dirtydan · Apr 12, 2004 05:21 PM

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Also, someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that Norvel engines are in fact Russian-made AME engines.
--jt

They are in fact one and the same. It was I who supplied initial specifications for the design of first AME engine, the .049.

Dan

gcb · Apr 12, 2004 05:53 PM

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Dan,

Was that perhaps the AME Zeus?

George

faif2d · Apr 12, 2004 06:05 PM

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If it was mabye I should order some from Carlson?

I used to like painting with dope but now I can't remember why. Steve Fauble