Jr. Ringmaster

I put this in the clasifieds, but I know some of us don't go there often.
So far, I have been unable to find plans/drawings to scratch build a Jr. Looked in all the sources I know of.
If anyone has them, or has a junker kit I could template and draw plans from, please let me know!
I will copy the plans for you, and donate a set to Leonard, Bare, etc., so help me if you can!
Thanks
Bill <><

Bill:

I have a scrapped out jr. Ring you can have if nothing else comes up. Wing has seperated from aft part of fuse and tail group.

The problem with the (original) Jr. was that there were no real plans as such, only the assembly instructions and a 3-view. Without the kit to copy- you're pretty much outta luck. Somebody needs to take a Jr. kit and do a GOOD set of CAD plans for it, like Bare did for the big Ring'. That means correcting all the errors in the die cutting, etc. which makes the airfoil come out weird and so forth and so on. The Jr. is really an .049 size airplane today, I'm not sure how practical it might be (i.e. demand wise).

Jake

LAST EDITED ON Apr-13-04 AT 06:11 PM (CDT)
 
Hi Jake,
Not being familiar with the workings of CAD, would the tracing of the parts be sufficient for Bare to do a CAD drawing from? Since I sent a set of Plywood wing rib templates to a laser cutter and his program corrected them, I think CAD would, too. (??)
I built a Jr. about 38 years ago, and I believe a scratch built one would go well with a 10FP or maybe a Norvel 074.
Thanks
Bill <><

Bill I have a second version new in the box If you want to trace it. I think it is the same except for the planked leading edge.I flew these a lot as a kid and used Fox 35's in them. Big loops and lazy eights.I started with Cub .09's and went to K&B 32's later for combat before using the Fox 35.For those that don't know, Bill and I are live about 100+ miles apart.Come to the club meeting on the 24th and trace it or I can trace it for you.
Ed

Hey Eddy,
Roger has found a kit and we are getting it done. Thanks fo rthe offer!
I am going to plan on the 24th meeting.
Bill <><

Probably, I think this is what he did with the other Ring' plans he has.

J

>The problem with the (original) Jr. was that there were no
>real plans as such, only the assembly instructions and a
>3-view. Without the kit to copy- you're pretty much outta
>luck. Somebody needs to take a Jr. kit and do a GOOD set of
>CAD plans for it, like Bare did for the big Ring'. That
>means correcting all the errors in the die cutting, etc.
>which makes the airfoil come out weird and so forth and so
>on. The Jr. is really an .049 size airplane today, I'm not
>sure how practical it might be (i.e. demand wise).
>
>Jake

I assume your talking about modern engines like .049 Norvel. I have plans I made from a Jr. Ringmaster kit and I put a Norvel .049 on the 30" wing span airplane. It flies about 75 mph on 60 ft lines. The Jr. Ringmaster kit says .09 to .19 engine but the Norvel .049 is more than enough engine. I have a cox .049 on the 22" wing span airplane it flies about 35 or so mph on 35 ft lines. Big difference in engines.

Bill,
Found one, check your PM's.
roger

Bill,
4/18/04 - check your PM's,
Roger

Hello Bill Little,

Did you ever receive the Jr. Ringmaster Plans? Posted 4/13/04
If not I have the Sterling Jr. Ringmaster plan in front of me, a Matt Kania Designed and can jpeg and "E" mail it to you from my aol site. Though it is in 1/4 scale, with a scanner it can be brought to full scale and most probably you can do it. I also did send full size plans to other on the other control line site as "balsa 8 me" . I also have the lil Satan plans in full size but got so confused by all the comments I got lost who was posting it. If that person still wants the full size plan I could "E" it to his personal site in jpeg. That will save him a lot of money. I don't know to send attachments at this site so I do have to use your other site to send it. Beside I have to scan picture, and reduce it to jpeg which some time takes a day because the epson scanner, 640U is not compatable with AOL. At first I did not know what was wrong, until I read the fine prints on operating the 640u scanner.
Both are fun planes to fly. In fact all the kits were. If it does not work the way it should, we make balsa compose out of it.
One more thing, If anyone 1st. without looking it up can tell me where the AMA Nationals was held in the year 1974, when we were flying, That 1st.person will receive that patch free by writing me at [email protected] Thanks and be blessed, with quick reactions.

Hi Henry,
Thanks for the offer, but I have received a set of tracings from a new kit courtesy of cliner.
Thanks, again, for the offer!
Bill <><