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Howard Rush · May 09, 2004 10:29 PM

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I got a new batch of APC props with offset holes. Preston posted a picture of them on his Web site. Those not afraid of getting cooties from visiting a combat site can see them at

http://clcombat.info/props.html

De Hill · May 09, 2004 10:54 PM

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Those aren't the dreaded Rocky Mountain Spotted Cooties are they?

De Hill

gcb · May 10, 2004 08:46 AM

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Guess we'll all have to re-learn how to make those "Cootie catchers" we made as kids.

George

Bill Little · May 11, 2004 07:11 AM

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Hih George,
IIRC, the most dreaded of all cooties, in these parts, where those from contacting the fairer of the species. The slightest touch (heaven forbid you were caught holding hands or KISSING!) At those tender ages, the fall out from the contact could take weeks to dissipate.
Ah, the "good old days!" LOL!!
Bill <><

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

Rob · May 10, 2004 04:57 PM

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Don't want to "whine" but the same happened to me last month. Ten out of ten were off-set.
Never got a responce from APC as to sending them back, as there web site askes that you have a return conformation number.
I filled and re-drilled to fit a Cox. Made a neet drill guide that fits the inner hub resess to keep things straight.

Rob Johnson
Orange,CA.

greatcircle · May 11, 2004 09:34 AM

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I filled and re-drilled to fit a Cox. Made a neet drill
guide that fits the inner hub resess to keep things
straight.

Rob Johnson
Orange,CA.

Rob:
Are these the result of jobs that have been lost "offshore?" Are they made by little old ladies from Lithuania? HOW do you fill the hole so you can redrill, and what does your drill jig look like? Thanks.

Carl

Proparc · May 10, 2004 05:45 PM

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I've had the same problem with offset hole APC props. They can't be balanced. It tends to be more of a problem on my Saito 72. That said, the offset hole problem is nothing compared to the risk of catching "Cooties." There are obviously Baby Boomers on this site if they can remember that.

"I don't know about this tuned pipe business. I practiced on that thing until my lips turned blue, and I still can't play a stinkin note."
"Homer J. Simpson"

Milton Graham\Proparc

gcb · May 11, 2004 05:51 AM

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Us pre-Baby-Boomers remember them too...from back when we had enough hair to hold cooties. I think cootie catchers got replaced by brain suckers...easier to make. I think my kids showed me how to make those.

Perhaps those APC props are for engines with bent shafts.

On a serious note, thanks for the heads-up. Keep us posted on APC's reply.

George

F4FGuy · May 10, 2004 07:14 PM

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Ron B.
F4Fguy

Verrrrry interesting!Is the hole off center or is the counterbore off center or are both off center?In what direction?Make a jig to re-bore them on center.If the number of complaints I hear is indicative,you have another cottage industry,tuning APCs to make them do what they should have done in the first place.Whaddaya know,another prop kit.

Ron B.

dirtydan · May 11, 2004 07:35 PM

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LAST EDITED ON May-11-04 AT 07:56 PM (CDT)
 
I will join Rob in the whiner category...

As the APC line in general is of such high quality, and I had never had problems with the larger sizes, Rob's deal about 1/2A APC props seemed either mistaken or trivial. I was wrong.

First, Rush might be an inordinately picky sort, but as I have known him for many years his post pretty much got my attention.

Secondly, over the past couple months I have noticed that some of my APC 9-4s were as expected: slightly off in balance, but predictable in that the same blade was always heavy. However, two or three were way off and not to the expected side. One of them was so bad it was instantly thrown in the trash just so it wouldn't get used accidentally.

In checking the remaining props which took more than casual work, the drilled holes are indeed not centered.

Calling around to a couple of my Arcey friends this is indeed sometimes a problem. Some, mostly Pylon racers, use machined inserts in the molded recess to accurately center the props, neatly bypassing the drilled holes. See Darrol Cady's site (pitch gauge thread) for their solution.

Others take the option suggested on this thread, machining a drill guide which indexes to molded recess on back side of prop. In many cases factory-drilled hole is too small, so it can be both drilled centered and up to shaft size of the engine in one step.

The real answer, of course, is for APC to upgrade the tooling for drilling prop holes to the same level as seen in the design and construction of their props.

Dan