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Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent

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Scott Riese · Oct 13, 2001 01:10 PM

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Written by Ted Nugent, the rock singer and
hunter/naturalist, upon hearing that California Senators B. Boxer and D.
Feinstein denounced him for being a "gun owner" and a "Rock Star".
This was his response after telling the senators about his past contributions
to children's charities and scholarship foundations, which have totaled more
than $13.7 million in the last 5 years!!


QUOTE: I'm a Bad American-this pretty much sums it up for me. I like big
trucks, big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women.
I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel
governmental functionary with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to
crack addicts squirting out babies.
I don't care about appearing compassionate. I think playing with toy guns
doesn't make you a killer. I believe ignoring your kids and giving them
Prozac might.I think I'm doing better than the homeless.
I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. I have the
right not to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or make
me mad. This is my life to live, and not necessarily up to others
expectations. I know what SEX is and there are not varying degrees of it.
I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. But if you want to that's fine; I just don't feel
like everyone else should have to. I believe that if you are selling me a
Dairy Queen shake, a pack of cigarettes, or hotel room you do it in English.
As of matter of fact, if you are an American citizen you should speak
English. My uncles and forefathers shouldn't have had to die in vain so you
can leave the countries you were born in to come disrespect ours, and make us
bend to your will. Get over it.
I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you're running
from them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word
'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the previous line.
I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for unpopular
opinions or actions.
I know how to count votes and I feel much safer letting a machine with no
political affiliation do a recount when needed. I know what the definition
of lying is, and it isn't based on the word "is"-ever.
I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you qualify for
any special loan programs, gov't sponsored bank loans, etc., so you can open
a hotel, 7-Eleven, trinket shop, or any thing else, while the indigenous
peoples can't get past a high school education because they can't afford it.
I didn't take the initiative in inventing the Internet. I thought the Taco
Bell dog was funny.
I want them to bring back safe and sane fireworks.
I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, Ice-T or
Marilyn Manson sang, but that doesn't mean I want to listen to that crap from
someone else's car when I'm stopped at a red light.
But I respect your right to.
I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than
working at Blockbuster or Jack In The Box. I don't want to eat or drink
anything with the words light, lite or fat-free on the package.
Our soldiers did not go to some foreign country and risk their lives in vain
and defend our Constitution so that decades later you can tell me it's a
living document ever changing and is open to interpretation. The guys who
wrote it were light years ahead of anyone today, and they meant what they
said - now leave the document alone, or there's going to be trouble. I don't
hate the rich. I help the poor. I know wrestling is fake. I've never
owned, or was a slave, and a large percentage of our forefathers weren't
wealthy enough to own one either. Please stop blaming me because some prior
white people were idiots
- and remember, tons of white, Indian, Chinese, and other races have been
enslaved too - it was wrong for every one of them.
I believe a self-righteous liberal Democrat with a cause is more dangerous
than a Hell's Angel with an attitude. I want to know exactly which church is
it where the "Reverend" Jessie Jackson preaches; and, what exactly is his job
function.
I own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be
allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you will serve the
time.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue
to make more. If it makes you mad, then invent the next operating system
that's better and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that
invented the Internet to help you.
I don't believe in hate crime legislation. Even suggesting it makes me mad.
You're telling me that someone who is a minority, gay, disabled, another
nationality, or otherwise different from the mainstream of this country has
more value as a human being that I do as a white male. If someone kills
anyone, I'd say that it's a hate crime.
We don't need more laws! Let's enforce the ones we already have.
I think turkey bacon, turkey beef, turkey fake anything sucks.
I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child-it takes a parent
with the guts to stand up to the kid and spank his butt and say "NO!" when
it's necessary to do so.
I'll admit that the only movie that ever made me cry was Ole Yeller.
I didn't realize Dr. Seuss was a genius until I had a kid.
I will not be frowned upon or be looked down upon or be made to keep silent
because I have these beliefs and opinions. I thought this country allowed me
that right.
I will not conform or compromise just to keep from hurting somebody's
feelings I'm neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the
mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise.
Yes, I guess by some people's definition, I may be a bad American. But
that's tough.

Ted Nugent

De Hill · Oct 13, 2001 01:20 PM

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Damn, that's good!

De

De Hill

Alan Hahn · Oct 13, 2001 04:06 PM

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Why can't we just keep this board relevant to CL?

Alan

geoffgg · Oct 14, 2001 06:40 AM

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-14-01 AT 07:02 PM (CDT)

Hi guys

I am inclined to agree with Alan's view except that I need to ask, 'where do we control-liners share our views?'

As one who pleads guilty to going over the top after the attacks on WTC and the Pentagon, I still believe that special interest groups need to address their emotions within their comfort zones or communities. When those communities span the globe, it becomes all the more complex but not unmanageable.

In Sydney, we are experiencing some really bad stuff that sheets back to Middle Eastern migrants who have made Australia their home. I've referred to it in the recent past and despite the criticism/censorship that some of our colleagues visited upon me at the time, there was not one word of untruth in anything I said.

At the same time, while I was great fan of Ted Nugent's music, I do not agree with every sentiment expressed in this post.

The great thing about the established 'Western' world is that we can express our views and expect to remain free to express more of the same. How do you think Salmon Rushdie feels?

Me! I feel pretty scared by the fact that well within any notional 200 mile limit for my country, we have great chunks of the world's most populous Islamic nation. A country that has proven by its actions over many years to be totally corrupt and one of the world's leaders in the field of the suppression of human rights--especially the rights of Christians in a Muslem nation.

In closing, in 1954, an English commedian by the name of Billy Russell performed in a theatre in Sydney. He was well into his eighties at the time but, of politicians he said...

'Politicians...before an election, they promise you everything. When they get in, they promise you nothin' and before you get that, they take it orf you and put a tax on it!'

'Politicians--they remind me of an Ostrich with its head stuck in the sand trying to look up its ancestors.

My personal contribution is that, 'the only thing I will trust a politician to do is not come back after he is dead.'

Cheers

Geoff

DJMalott · Oct 14, 2001 09:20 AM

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>Why can't we just keep this
>board relevant to CL?
>
>Alan

Ted flies CL.

"Doesn't play well with others"
Denny Malott

Doesn't play well with others,
Denny Malott

kdheath · Oct 14, 2001 07:52 PM

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>Why can't we just keep this
>board relevant to CL?
>
>Alan

I see your point, Alan, but I think I gently disagree. This is a small(dare I say tiny?)community of like-minded guys. I think that a little creative blowing off of steam about any of the things that concern us as individuals is healthy. Through this venting, we learn more about each other in particular and the community in general. Communities that stay together have ways of dealing with the bad as well as the good. And anything that effects our community is relevant, indeed.

Regards,
Kelvin

Ty M. · Oct 13, 2001 05:00 PM

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I copied this on the internet two months ago. Now what just exactly does this have to do with flying model planes? I do agree with old Ted though. I do hate politcians and someday I will tell you my theory on where they come from. It will just enrage a few out there, but tough. Ty M.

Bob Reeves · Oct 13, 2001 07:43 PM

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I liked it..

Jim P · Oct 13, 2001 08:55 PM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#5 source
Well said Ted. I guess if we don't see it here we sure won't see it in the "mainstream" media. In the meantime, I notice we suspended military operations on Friday which is apparently some type of holy day for Muslims. Sounds like the bombing halts during the Vietnam war to me. I was hoping for better from George W. and now, the main event which is the OKC fall fun fly tomorrow(Sunday) free flying, free food-ya'll come.

T.Durrill · Oct 14, 2001 09:20 AM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#8 source
Remember guys,
I think these Moslem terrorists would frown on C/L as an activity that takes away from worship of Allah. Without a country, we probably won't have C/L, so this topic is relevant to this board.

T.Durrill

Larry F · Oct 14, 2001 11:06 AM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#9 source
One of the greatest things about C/L is that it would take a ton of imagination to turn a C/L plane into a terrorist weapon.

Now, as to those R/C folks . . .

Larry F

Nils · Oct 14, 2001 07:38 PM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#10 source

You didn't see me try to fly the pattern when I was flying "White Knuckle" Intermediate! Nobody was safe! hahahaha

Nils

Scott Riese · Oct 14, 2001 09:56 PM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#12 source
That's for sure. How much room does it take to do the clover?

Nils · Oct 14, 2001 11:18 PM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#13 source
For the particular time you're referring to, I would estimate that I would have made it if I had been on top a 15 foot ladder. Maybe

Nils

Currell · Oct 14, 2001 11:20 PM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#14 source
Ted is a Michigan boy. Currell

Jim T. · Oct 15, 2001 05:00 PM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#15 source
I think this post really stretches the 'all aspects of control line flying' nature of this board. I thought about this a good while before doing this post, and I'm asking Leonard to remove this thread as inappropriate to this forum.

I fly CL with some people with whom I have the strongest differences in terms of religion or politics. We are friends and get along well together because we focus on our mutual interest, CL, not our differences in other areas. If you've been around the boards much, you've seen non-CL posts like this raise people's anger level to the point that the atmosphere of the board was tainted, and people became antagonistic with each other.

The original post has appeared a number of places. There is no need to have it here.

Jim Thomerson

The Kiwi · Oct 15, 2001 06:14 PM

RE: Potential for argument #16 source
LAST EDITED ON Oct-15-01 AT 06:16 PM (CDT)

I personally consider the likelihood of this one getting heated up in this crowd to be small. I agree with both the opinions of the original author and to a certain extent with the feeling that we might not have needed our own copy on this board (however, in spite of having been on a number of more or less "conservative" mailing lists, I had not yet seen the quote, and I imaginve many others who subscribe here had not seen it either). Anyway, rather than deleting the entire thread, my suggestion would be to "lock" it from further additions if the "potential for argument" DOES seem high after all.


Kiwi

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Scott · Oct 16, 2001 01:17 AM

RE: Potential for argument #17 source
OK....I thought it was OK to put here BECAUSE TED N. flies control line. Sorry Jim that YOU feel that I went to far. HOWEVER, .........oh I can't say. Sorry that I posted this here. I'll watch what I post here from know on. I just get mad that I've been waiting FOUR months for surgery and I get NO responce. I'm mad as hell at the SYSTEM that I love and will die for.

ON the bright side my new PA ship is almost ready to cover!!!!
Scott ( in the dumps ) Riese

Mel · Oct 17, 2001 07:34 PM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#18 source
I agree completely with Jim T. I have seen nothing in this thread which will help me in any way with my model building and flying, and I need a lot of help!!! I came back into CL two years ago after being out for about 35 years. This and a couple of other good CL bulletin boards have been a tremendous learning help for me. This thread has done absolutely nothing good for me. Mel

highflyer · Oct 17, 2001 09:28 PM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#19 source
LAST EDITED ON Oct-17-01 AT 09:32 PM (CDT)

I learned a lot ( and still do) from forums like this one.
I believe Scotts posting is called FREEDOM.
I believe there are to many Me's in the reply from Mel!
Ya dont have to open the thread and read it, thats called freedom too.

Mike · Oct 22, 2001 12:48 PM

RE: Letting out steam by,Ted Nugent-OKC all fun fly#20 source
Yes I agree it doesn't have a lot to do with C/L planes but what it does have to do is with the fact that besides this common interest in c/l planes we do have other interests and feelings about this country we live in. I myself feel good that the rest of everyone out there also have a well rounded interest in society. When you have the right to petition your local town or city for an area to fly your planes or are able to hold your club meetings and gather together- these are freedoms that we shouldn't take for granted. Happy flying to you all!

mop