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Which Brodak Full Fuselage Plane Should I build?

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jocowitz · Jun 02, 2004 08:33 PM

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I have the Brodak Accentor and the Brodak Olympic kit.I want to build one of them very soon. I never built a built up fuselage before besides my ARF nobler which is already put together. Which plane is better and flies the best? How much extra work are these then the profiles? Any hints or help? I'm still new at this and I cannot wait to get up to Brodaks fly-in in a few weeks.
Joco

Jake · Jun 02, 2004 08:50 PM

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Oriental.

Jake

"It'll probably feel real good again, once it quits hurting".

peabody · Jun 02, 2004 08:57 PM

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The Acentor has been a recent top performer at the Nats, but I would side with the Jakester and recommend that you build an Oriental....simply because you can enter both PA and Classic with it.

See Ya

Peabody

jocowitz · Jun 02, 2004 09:25 PM

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I was thinking about getting the ARF oriental when it comes available. THe Olympic is also classic legal isn't it. Accentor is just for pampa.

aaronl · Jun 02, 2004 09:41 PM

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>I was thinking about getting the ARF oriental when it comes
>available. THe Olympic is also classic legal isn't it.
>Accentor is just for pampa.

seeing as you already have the olympic, build it, it is a good flying airplane, it IS classic legal, it can be powered with lots of different motor types, it can fly at 45+ ounces etc.

Ryan Nau · Jun 02, 2004 09:52 PM

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The Accentor is a great flying airplane. It can only be used for Pampa Stunt. I'm flying mine this year in Pampa, its working good. The Olympic is a nice plane. I like the looks of it. I use an LA 46 and 68' lines on my Accentor. 60' was to fast. It has a nice speed now and goes where you point it.
Ryan

Jake · Jun 02, 2004 09:52 PM

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>>I was thinking about getting the ARF oriental when it comes
>>available. THe Olympic is also classic legal isn't it.
>>Accentor is just for pampa.
>
>seeing as you already have the olympic, build it, it is a
>good flying airplane, it IS classic legal, it can be powered
>with lots of different motor types, it can fly at 45+ ounces
>etc.

Yeah, but he can buy the ARF Oriental and if he busts it, he might not cry as hard.

Jake

"It'll probably feel real good again, once it quits hurting".

Jim P · Jun 02, 2004 09:55 PM

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>seeing as you already have the olympic, build it, it is a good flying airplane, it IS classic legal, it can be powered with lots of different motor types, it can fly at 45+ ounces etc.

All true but you can build two , maybe three Orientals in the time it takes to build one Olympic.
I have not built one yet but a look at the plans shows it to be a rather significant building challenge compared to the Oriental.
I also remain concerned that you will be restricted to 10", maybe 10.5" absolute max prop diameter without redoing the gear and losing that low slung look.

Tony G · Jun 03, 2004 11:27 AM

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>The Acentor has been a recent top performer at the Nats, but
>I would side with the Jakester and recommend that you build
>an Oriental....simply because you can enter both PA and
>Classic with it.
>
>See Ya
>
>Peabody

UMMMMM, Hi Peabody. You can enter the Brodak Acentor in Classic and PA also.
I believe the Acentor is simply a renamed Bob Palmer
CLC kit of the 1954 POW Wow; maybe it's modified a bit? Since
Jaco's original question was; which one of the two kits he already has, should he build.
I have the CLC Pow Wow and the CLC Oriental, and I will build the Oriental kit first...I like the Oriental
design best. So Jaco, If you can afford a third Brodak kit, I too
recommend the Oriental; Otherwise go ahead and build the Pow Wow...
I mean your Acentor....Tony

see: http://www.controllineplans.com/frameset2.htm

Bill Little · Jun 02, 2004 10:31 PM

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Of the two kits you have, the Accentor is probably the easier build.
The Olympic is really a souped up version of the ARF Nobler you already have and a bit more complicated than the Accentor, but still not a hard build.

However, I would say to get a Oriental kit and build that first. It is the quickest and easiest to build, and will fly as good as either of the others.

One question is, what engine(s) do you have (or are planning to purchase) to use? Prop length restraints can cause some problems on the old Classic ships.

It all comes down to what you prefer, and what you want to do with the plane. Classic and Pampa? (Olympic and Oriental) Just Pampa? (Any, but the Accentor is only PAMPA class).

BTW: I seem to remember that the Accentor is basically a take off on an older Palmer design?? Pow Wow, maybe?? Memory is foggy here.

They will all fly real good!
Bill <><

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

Jake · Jun 02, 2004 11:00 PM

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And I am really pleased to see that somebody(s) finally agreed with me on something!

Jake

"It'll probably feel real good again, once it quits hurting".

Tony G · Jun 03, 2004 11:34 AM

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>BTW: I seem to remember that the Accentor is basically a
>take off on an older Palmer design?? Pow Wow, maybe??
>Memory is foggy here.
>
>They will all fly real good!
>Bill <><

YEP! It looks like the CLC POW WOW kit that Brodak inherited when
he bought out Tony Drago's CLC kit line. Maybe it has been modified
a bit though..If so, does anyone know what changes have been made
since the Rename/Remorph?? I agree with You too Jake!
Tony

TomK · Jun 03, 2004 12:27 PM

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Depending on your size preferences, don't rule out the Fancy Pants. Straightforward build and a very nice flyer. Also classic legal and also good in wind.

Bigiron13 · Jun 03, 2004 01:59 PM

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I like the Olympic, but the Accentor will be considerably easier to build for your first full bodied stunt ship. Regardless of WHICH one (or any other choice) you decide to go with, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS through and through before starting and re-read any places that seem vague or confusing. Then as you go along in building, read the instructions pertaining to the stage you are building. If you have trouble, DO NOT HESITATE TO GET HELP.
Hint: A good flat straight building surface is ESSENTIAL

Bigiron

Bigiron13

gtrbaby · Jun 03, 2004 08:00 PM

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I am building the Accentor as my first REAL full fuse plane....OK, I started it first...before the SIG mustang and Still Stuka Kit (RSM)......

The Accentor is REALLY easy to build...the fuse is a piece of cake to put together.....just hollowing the blocks takes a bit of time. the lack of an engine "cowl" makes it easy too....no complex carving or shaping, anyway...like Bigiron said...READ THE INSTRUCTIONS....Brodak instructions are some of the best....the pictures help a lot too if you get stuck.

I am going to cover my Accentor this weekend....should have something to show for it next week sometime.

In the battle of airplane V ground, the ground is yet to lose.

Larry Fernandez · Jun 03, 2004 11:59 PM

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I would strongly recomend building the Oriental. The constant cord wing and boxed fuselage make for a straight forward, easy to build plane. And they do fly quite well. What you learn while building it will go a long way towards your future projects. Good luck and have fun. Larry, NorCal Circle Jerks