This is a bit hard to believe...

It was Saturday that Ronald Reagan died, and not a mention on this site?!

I know this is not a political site, I don't even want to turn it into one. But the vast majority of us are Americans and *all* of us were much effected by the eight years of the Reagan presidency.

I refuse to just let this slide as if a momentous event has not taken place.

Saturday I was writing a thank-you letter to friends, a "real" letter, postage stamp and all. I was just getting into this-will-make-them-laugh mode when it came over NPR that Mr. Reagan had died.

I knew how sick he was. I knew his age. I had even been given a heads-up, although that source had done so before and been wrong.

Still, I banged out an immediate reaction, pushed the keyboard away, simply broke down and cried.

Not a macho thing to admit, I know. But I do so without shame. I admired him so much.

Collected myself, went upstairs, put a new tape in the VCR, set it on FNC and just let it run. Time to view it later. Which I have not yet had the courage to do. Same VCR set on same channel, 8:00 in the morning Pacific Time for tomorrow's ceremonies.

While anecdotes about Reagan fill my head, just one: He had just been sworn in recently, had a meeting with his National Security Advisor. The general tone was of Reagan's ideas about the Cold War and he said, "My view of the Cold War is that we win, they lose." (I may have muffed a couple words, going by memory here.)

A few years later, having for many years had an interest in seeing the place, I was actually in Russia, Leningrad still, later to (again) be St. Petersburg. Reagan was right, it was an evil empire.

Ah, I could go on. I won't. But as Americans we really need to acknowledge our loss in every facet of our lives, even toy model aircraft.

>I know this is not a political site, I don't even want to
>turn it into one.

Please don't...

Let's keep the Election Propaganda out of here too!

Just lost Ray Charles too.

The famous go in threes, whose next?

The third one was Mrs. Shand-Kydd! Who's Mrs. Shand-Kydd I hear you say? None other than the mother of the late Princess Di. The papers reported that Charlie was denied an invite to the funeral by her request!

What election propaganda? I saw nothing in Dan's message about the upcoming election. Did you?

Dan,

I live 5 miles from the capitol and I too am sad about the Gipper's passing. Yet, tens of thousands of Americans are here viewing him lying in state and paying their last respects. The love that has poured out to him and Nancy has been overwhelming with thousands lining the route to the capitol from Andrews AFB to the rotunda. I heard the man call out to her, "God Bless you Nancy" and she heard, smiled and waved. The audience applauded the message and her. The love was wondrous. I am thankful I had the privilege to serve in the Air Force under the Gipper. He made us stand tall and be proud of our service to country. He made it honorable to love God, country and family again.

I will miss him.

I wasn't aware that he flew CL.

No Tom I didn't see it either .I'd prefer to keep it that way.By the way what makes you think I'k refering to Dan?

>I wasn't aware that he flew CL.

You didn't know that the Gipper won the NATS and the Walker Cup in 28? He beat out Ted Fancher and Bill Werwage.

Heck, I heard Jimmy Walker was wantin to be a pilot, but didn't meet the physical requirements. Then he bumped into Ronnie and Ronnie suggested he fly models intead. 'Jimmy,' Ron said, 'why don't U control it from the center of a circle with a handle and a couple of lines.'

Well the world has never been the same.

Okay, that makes light of the fact that we just lost one of the most popular presidents that we have had. As popular as FDR, Teddy, Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, any of the great ones. Politics aside, the vast majority of people from both sides of the isle miss the man.

Maybe limbaugh is next,-with all those pills he,s a popping! And I believe It!! Paul

>It was Saturday that Ronald Reagan died, and not a mention
>on this site?!
>
>I know this is not a political site, I don't even want to
>turn it into one. But the vast majority of us are Americans
>and *all* of us were much effected by the eight years of the
>Reagan presidency.
>
>I refuse to just let this slide as if a momentous event has
>not taken place.
>
>Saturday I was writing a thank-you letter to friends, a
>"real" letter, postage stamp and all. I was just getting
>into this-will-make-them-laugh mode when it came over NPR
>that Mr. Reagan had died.
>
>I knew how sick he was. I knew his age. I had even been
>given a heads-up, although that source had done so before
>and been wrong.
>
>Still, I banged out an immediate reaction, pushed the
>keyboard away, simply broke down and cried.
>
>Not a macho thing to admit, I know. But I do so without
>shame. I admired him so much.
>
>Collected myself, went upstairs, put a new tape in the VCR,
>set it on FNC and just let it run. Time to view it later.
>Which I have not yet had the courage to do. Same VCR set on
>same channel, 8:00 in the morning Pacific Time for
>tomorrow's ceremonies.
>
>While anecdotes about Reagan fill my head, just one: He had
>just been sworn in recently, had a meeting with his National
>Security Adviser. The general tone was of Reagan's ideas
>about the Cold War and he said, "My view of the Cold War is
>that we win, they lose." (I may have muffed a couple words,
>going by memory here.)
>
>A few years later, having for many years had an interest in
>seeing the place, I was actually in Russia, Leningrad still,
>later to (again) be St. Petersburg. Reagan was right, it was
>an evil empire.
>
>Ah, I could go on. I won't. But as Americans we really need
>to acknowledge our loss in every facet of our lives, even
>toy model aircraft.
>
>Dan
>

Ron B.
F4Fguy

Dan:

You're absolutely right,and the several inane comments above are absolutely wrong.No matter what views anyone may have of his politics,Ronald Reagan was The President of These United States and, as such,his passing is to be mourned. Mean spirited and ugly comments are totally inappropriate.

To all others:

Dan was very careful to say that his was to be taken as a statement of respect and grief,NOT politics.

>Ronald Reagan was The President of These United States and, as such,his passing is to be mourned.

I think that says it perfectly and really all that needs to be said on this forum.

>>Ronald Reagan was The President of These United States and, as such,his passing is to be mourned.
>
>I think that says it perfectly and really all that needs to
>be said on this forum.

Semper Fi, Marine. Amen.

See you at the Brodak.

Wow I just read about Ray Charles passing, what a sad week. One great musician!

Yup, both these passings have bummed. Though I'm glad Reagan is out of the missery of Alzheimers. I've lost a couple grandmothers to that ##### disease.

It is a very bad disease simply because it take the one thing away that you own 100%....your memories.

>>It was Saturday that Ronald Reagan died, and not a mention
>>on this site?!
>>
>>I know this is not a political site, I don't even want to
>>turn it into one. But the vast majority of us are Americans
>>and *all* of us were much effected by the eight years of the
>>Reagan presidency.
>>
>>I refuse to just let this slide as if a momentous event has
>>not taken place.
>>
>>Saturday I was writing a thank-you letter to friends, a
>>"real" letter, postage stamp and all. I was just getting
>>into this-will-make-them-laugh mode when it came over NPR
>>that Mr. Reagan had died.
>>
>>I knew how sick he was. I knew his age. I had even been
>>given a heads-up, although that source had done so before
>>and been wrong.
>>
>>Still, I banged out an immediate reaction, pushed the
>>keyboard away, simply broke down and cried.
>>
>>Not a macho thing to admit, I know. But I do so without
>>shame. I admired him so much.
>>
>>Collected myself, went upstairs, put a new tape in the VCR,
>>set it on FNC and just let it run. Time to view it later.
>>Which I have not yet had the courage to do. Same VCR set on
>>same channel, 8:00 in the morning Pacific Time for
>>tomorrow's ceremonies.
>>
>>While anecdotes about Reagan fill my head, just one: He had
>>just been sworn in recently, had a meeting with his National
>>Security Adviser. The general tone was of Reagan's ideas
>>about the Cold War and he said, "My view of the Cold War is
>>that we win, they lose." (I may have muffed a couple words,
>>going by memory here.)
>>
>>A few years later, having for many years had an interest in
>>seeing the place, I was actually in Russia, Leningrad still,
>>later to (again) be St. Petersburg. Reagan was right, it was
>>an evil empire.
>>
>>Ah, I could go on. I won't. But as Americans we really need
>>to acknowledge our loss in every facet of our lives, even
>>toy model aircraft.
>>
>>Dan
>>
>
>Ron B.
>F4Fguy
>
>Dan:
>
> You're absolutely right,and the several inane comments
>above are absolutely wrong.No matter what views anyone may
>have of his politics,Ronald Reagan was The President of
>These United States and, as such,his passing is to be
>mourned. Mean spirited and ugly comments are totally
>inappropriate.
>
>To all others:
>
>Dan was very careful to say that his was to be taken as a
>statement of respect and grief,NOT politics.
>
>Ron B.

You'll excuse me if I vehemently disagree with you. One of the nice things about this board is not having things like this posted here. Let's keep it to C/L models please like the board's owner asked?

Jake

Hi guys,

I agree with Jake.

Most of us do not come here to hear about politics or the people who are engaged in that peculiar business.

This forum is supposed to be about our hobby and it might be better for ALL of us if we kept these personal matters (Religion, politics, race, etc.) personal and away from the "flying field".

Quite frankly, I would mourn the passing of almost any Local Hobby Shop owner more deeply than I would our Ex President.

I'd vote for locking this thread before the bricks start flying.

>Hi guys,
>
>I agree with Jake.
>
>Most of us do not come here to hear about politics or the
>people who are engaged in that peculiar business.
>
>This forum is supposed to be about our hobby and it might be
>better for ALL of us if we kept these personal matters
>(Religion, politics, race, etc.) personal and away from the
>"flying field".
>
>Quite frankly, I would mourn the passing of almost any Local
>Hobby Shop owner more deeply than I would our Ex President.
>
>I'd vote for locking this thread before the bricks start
>flying.
>
>Bigs

WHAM! You just hit the target dead center. This has NO place here and our host has put up guidelines relative to postings. If it were my board, I wouldn't just lock the thread, I'd erase it all together- it should have never been started- very wrong mistake.

>WHAM! You just hit the target dead center. This has NO place
>here and our host has put up guidelines relative to
>postings. If it were my board, I wouldn't just lock the
>thread, I'd erase it all together- it should have never been
>started- very wrong mistake.

And that's the problem, John. Its a shame you can't stomach a comment or sentiment made in humble memory of a man many of us respected deeply. Regrettably you don't know when to just give it a break. As always, you just have to have the last word - regardless of the grief many of us feel right now. You often quoted pride on your lack of tact is more misplaced now than ever.

Do us all a favor and just let it rest. Let us have our fond memories and rememberances. If you have nothing nice to say about our late president, for once show a semblence of good taste about delicate matters greater than all of us and just stay quiet. In other words, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.

We would do the same for you.

V/r

>
>>WHAM! You just hit the target dead center. This has NO place
>>here and our host has put up guidelines relative to
>>postings. If it were my board, I wouldn't just lock the
>>thread, I'd erase it all together- it should have never been
>>started- very wrong mistake.
>
>And that's the problem, John. Its a shame you can't stomach
>a comment or sentiment made in humble memory of a man many
>of us respected deeply. Regrettably you don't know when to
>just give it a break. As always, you just have to have the
>last word - regardless of the grief many of us feel right
>now. You often quoted pride on your lack of tact is more
>misplaced now than ever.
>
>Do us all a favor and just let it rest. Let us have our
>fond memories and rememberances. If you have nothing nice
>to say about our late president, for once show a semblence
>of good taste about delicate matters greater than all of us
>and just stay quiet. In other words, if you have nothing
>nice to say, say nothing.
>
>We would do the same for you.
>
>V/r
>
>Bob Kruger

Speak for yourself.
You need to take a good long hard look in a mirror dude, before you start tossing stones at someone else who objects to your views. This is a C/L model airplane board, not Freak Republic. And I have a lot more stomach than either you or 99% of the rest here can handle.

>
>Speak for yourself.
>You need to take a good long hard look in a mirror dude,
>before you start tossing stones at someone else who objects
>to your views. This is a C/L model airplane board, not Freak
>Republic. And I have a lot more stomach than either you or
>99% of the rest here can handle.

John;

Its not a matter of what you or anyone else can stomach or not. We can have all the debates in the world about who is the toughest. Now is not the time. This is not the place.

As for how this site runs and what can be posted, perhaps you should leave that to Leonard. It is his board. I don't comment on what he should allow here. You should be clever enough to take the hint.

Some people who post here regularly used this forum to express their grief. Let them do that. And leave comments on how you would run the board to yourself. Leonard can figure out what he wants or will allow posted here on his own.

Let's keep the tough guy comparison out of this. Don't think either of us want to compare resumes.

V/r

>
>>
>>Speak for yourself.
>>You need to take a good long hard look in a mirror dude,
>>before you start tossing stones at someone else who objects
>>to your views. This is a C/L model airplane board, not Freak
>>Republic. And I have a lot more stomach than either you or
>>99% of the rest here can handle.
>
>John;
>
>Its not a matter of what you or anyone else can stomach or
>not. We can have all the debates in the world about who is
>the toughest. Now is not the time. This is not the place.
>
>As for how this site runs and what can be posted, perhaps
>you should leave that to Leonard. It is his board. I don't
>comment on what he should allow here. You should be clever
>enough to take the hint.
>
>Some people who post here regularly used this forum to
>express their grief. Let them do that. And leave comments
>on how you would run the board to yourself. Leonard can
>figure out what he wants or will allow posted here on his
>own.
>
>Let's keep the tough guy comparison out of this. Don't
>think either of us want to compare resumes.
>
>V/r
>
>Bob Kruger

BULL...
Give it a rest dude and look whom is talking- it's you. I don't give a flying bat's tail hairs about your resume'. And indeed you were smart enough to understand this is Len's board which is the point I started with. This ain't Freak Republic man, unless HE wants to turn it into that.
"Tough guy" is nonsense- a starving 68 year old peasant with a 100 year old rifle can kill you as dead as a concrete lawn jockey. So can a 9 year old girl with one grenade.

>board which is the point I started with. This ain't Freak
>Republic man, unless HE wants to turn it into that.
>"Tough guy" is nonsense- a starving 68 year old peasant with
>a 100 year old rifle can kill you as dead as a concrete lawn
>jockey. So can a 9 year old girl with one grenade.

As always John, you lack the tact to know when to quit.

Again, let people grieve as they want. Have the tact to know the right time to lash out at someone who is deceased.

(Hint - Now is not the time).

V/r

>>board which is the point I started with. This ain't Freak
>>Republic man, unless HE wants to turn it into that.
>>"Tough guy" is nonsense- a starving 68 year old peasant with
>>a 100 year old rifle can kill you as dead as a concrete lawn
>>jockey. So can a 9 year old girl with one grenade.
>
>As always John, you lack the tact to know when to quit.
>
>Again, let people grieve as they want. Have the tact to
>know the right time to lash out at someone who is deceased.
>
>(Hint - Now is not the time).
>
>V/r
>
>Bob Kruger

Wrong on every count.
I am not lashing out at anyone, alive or deceased. I am simply saying this is the wrong place for all of this and that others who have a different viewpoint and DON'T share this grief trip have every bit as much right to have their respective views respected as you guys who worshiped this fellow do- nothing more.

I'd rather keep the politics and religion off this forum. Model Airplanes, friendships and fun. Neat to have a sanctuary from the day to day mess. In some respects that's as real or more real than anything else.

Jake, if this was your board, it would be dead in a week. My opinion only. I am entitled to it.

Mean spirited and ugly comments are totally
>>inappropriate.
Dan was very careful to say that his was to be taken as a
>>statement of respect and grief,NOT politics.
>>
>>Ron B.
>
>You'll excuse me if I vehemently disagree with you. One of
>the nice things about this board is not having things like
>this posted here. Let's keep it to C/L models please like
>the board's owner asked?
>
>Jake
>
>
>Jake

Ron B.
F4Fguy
"Vehement" disagreement IS,in this instance,a POLITICAL statement.Dan put it right up front.To say politics is not part of this forum is to have your head in the sand,it's full of veiled,oblique references to politics of one stripe or another.People bleed their religious views all over the place and nothing's said,but here's an expression of grief and respect and it's treated like an obscenity.Personally,I don't care if you're a Hari-Krishna,a foaming at the mouth liberal,a militia member,a greenpeace fanatic,or a Nazi(well,I do draw the line at that),I don't,really,want to hear any of it,but if you don't feel any respect for the office of President and the symbolism represented by a National time of mourning,you have a clear option:Say NOTHING.

Dan, you are not the only one among us that has those feelings of loss, I share them with you. I have been watching the proceedings on TV all week, and I get choked up myself at times. I still have the feeling of pride in our country that I found while he was our President. He will always be remembered for that, I will always remember him for that.

I, however, do not understand some peoples need to make venomous remarks in this time of saddness, truly callous.

Greg Bossio

Why is it hard to believe when maybe some people don't care?
OR choose not to bring it up? OR have something better to think about?
OR their heads are filled with control line fascination?
That I like!

Well, maybe it's hard to believe that you would come into a thread that under the title of the thread the first sentence shows that it is a Reagan thread, and seeings how you wouldn't want to read anything Positive or reasuuring about Reagan, you are compelled to go ahead, come into a thread that you know you don't want to read or agree with, then go out of your way to post.

Plenty of threads on this board that I don't agree with the title or subject on and just let go, don't see why you can't be adult and do the same.

And I do mourn the loss of hobby shop owners, and replica racers and Aerobatic pilots, etc. etc.

But it is not unstandard for a consevative minded person to have to sit back and hold their tougne while the constant lambasting of my beliefs go on, only to be called a fascist whenever, if ever I object. Oh I know, there are some self righteous idiots on the right that give anyone right of center a bad name, but I can match them up with the same characters on the left. But it really erks me that I can't watch network anything without getting my rear end chapped from news to comedy.

When we loose Carter, and I'm only assuming that he will go before I and do not look forward to that time, I'll mourn his loss as well. While I don't think he was that whooppy of a President, and I don't agree with the way he has broken with previous presidential standards as of late, he was one of the few presidents that I wished I'd lived next door to. Quite a truly decent human being.
When Clinton goes, if he ever goes (now that is a political joke) I'll treat him the same as Nixon. Respecting the office doesn't mean you have to respect the man.

Why you couldn't handle the same attitude, demeaner I dunno.

I have a group of friends online here. And although I know some don't care, others of them feel exactly the same way. We are suffering a loss of an extended family member and are sharing our grief. Has nothing to do with anything other than that. I feel as Dan, Col. Tom and others do, a loss.

Gee Bill...

Now my adulthood is in question?! Please check your tip weight! LOL!!

Bigs

PS: who called anyone a fascist?

Wasn't there something in a recent issue of MA about Reagan having had some role as a radio announcer at a FF event in Kansas a long long time ago? I'll look later, a stretch I know, but I don't know if CL had even been invented at the time.

Presidents don't pass away every day, and as a former military man, and just to acknowledge the accomplishment, I respect them all, even the ones I don't like, and will Mourn the passing of them all. For those that disagree with this topic, you could have left it alone and it would have been a couple of short posts of respect instead of a long discussion of your making.

I always think how a first impression is hard to forget. When a person reacts in a negative manner, no matter the topic. It leaves a mark upon that persons name.

>Well, maybe it's hard to believe that you would come into a
>thread that under the title of the thread the first sentence
>shows that it is a Reagan thread, and seeings how you
>wouldn't want to read anything Positive or reasuuring about
>Reagan, you are compelled to go ahead, come into a thread
>that you know you don't want to read or agree with, then go
>out of your way to post.

"""""If something in a thread is going to provoke an emotion, or something I disagree with you're darn straight I'm going to feel compelled to post a reply.""""""

"""""You don't agree with my post, yet YOU feel compelled to answer... now who is calling the kettle black?"""""

>
>Plenty of threads on this board that I don't agree with the
>title or subject on and just let go, don't see why you can't
>be adult and do the same.
>
>
>When we loose Carter, and I'm only assuming that he will go
>before I and do not look forward to that time, I'll mourn
>his loss as well. While I don't think he was that whooppy
>of a President, and I don't agree with the way he has broken
>with previous presidential standards as of late, he was one
>of the few presidents that I wished I'd lived next door to.
>Quite a truly decent human being.
>When Clinton goes, if he ever goes (now that is a political
>joke) I'll treat him the same as Nixon. Respecting the
>office doesn't mean you have to respect the man.
>
>Why you couldn't handle the same attitude, demeaner I dunno.
>William Crane
AMA 6733

"""""That's life. There are always two sides, I'm used to it are you?"""""

>Why is it hard to believe when maybe some people don't care?
>OR choose not to bring it up? OR have something better to
>think about?
>OR their heads are filled with control line fascination?
>That I like!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Paul Heimgaertner

Ron B.
F4Fguy

If you really don't care,why bother to talk about it?

>>Why is it hard to believe when maybe some people don't care?
>>OR choose not to bring it up? OR have something better to
>>think about?
>>OR their heads are filled with control line fascination?
>>That I like!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Paul Heimgaertner
>
>Ron B.
>F4Fguy
>
>If you really don't care,why bother to talk about it?
>
>Ron B.

Ron,

Perhaps it was a bother, therefore the need to talk about it.

This is scary....... but I agree with Dan! I find no hint of politics in his post.

Those of us who are old enough to remember "Atomic Bomb Drills" in elementary school where we crawled under our desks and covered our heads with our arms (as if that would really help!!) are grateful that our children and grandchildren no longer live in a world where this is a constant threat.

Thanks President Reagan for ending the cold war and God Bless you.

Awww man, Timmy the turtle and 'Duck! and cover, Duck! and cover. He does what we all must learn to do.
You and you and you and you.

Duck! And cover.'

All in that happy go lucky June Cleaver sing song. Whenever they bring that up on the tube and my kids see it, man do they live in different times. Just like I can never really know what a depression was like, they can never know what underlying fear can feel like, tomorrow could never come.

My grade school was a designated fall out shelter for I believe 500 people. The Junior high was for less, I can't remember how many. My high school was built before the cold war, so didn't have provisions.

Addition. Although I am a little young for the real brunt of the cold war, tail end baby boomer from 63, we got more than our share of paranoia where I grew up because a good portion of my class mates were children from Forbes Air Force Base in Topeka, KS. I imagine that for the other schools in our district that didn't have as many military children, there wasn't near as much explaining about what Mom or Dad was doing. After Vietnam, they closed Forbes and I lost half my friends as they moved to a different post.

From somewhere near Parkville, Mo.
William Crane
AMA 6733

Amen Dan,

I stopped reading and posting here for a few months because I got tired of the petulant rants that break out whenever issues of faith or conservative politics are evenly quietly mentioned. In honor of my former Commander-in-Chief, President Reagan, however, I will interrupt my silence.

I too cried when we lost him. He saved my career and the life of my son, gave me back my pride to be an American, and freed all of us from the nuclear terror we grew up with.

As for the petulant children that love to be angry about such things, rant on...I'm not reading this thread again and your words amount to flatulance in a hurricane to those of us who flew for the Gipper.

Right On Dan!

I've shed a few tears here as well. A man of true character and integrity that chose to serve his country and ours has past. That quality of character and integrity are more and more rare in this liberalized country called the United States of America. I too am tired of being called intolerant by those that preach tolerance. A great man has passed and I grieve deeply. To those that would mock my grief I can only say that I will not try to gain revenge because I am larger than that. When William Jefferson Clinton passes you can be assured I will remain silent and allow you your grief with a respect you don't deserve even though you mocked mine.

God PLEASE Continue to Bless America!

It is interesting to me that there are those out there that feel this post by Dan to be out of line. When I posted my son's departure for the Marine Corps nobody got excited that it didn't have control line as its topic. When I had a momentary lapse of understanding for Ion's new job I got corn holed pretty hard. Had nothing to do with control line but who cares? This is part of our American history that is moving into the past. As I was told many times on Ion's post "if you don't like it, don't read it". Learn to scroll down and pass it by. I agree with your post Dan and don't give 2 figs for Jake or any other sniveling whinner. Nuff said.

>Amen Dan,
>
>I stopped reading and posting here for a few months because
>I got tired of the petulant rants that break out whenever
>issues of faith or conservative politics are evenly quietly
>mentioned. In honor of my former Commander-in-Chief,
>President Reagan, however, I will interrupt my silence.
>
>I too cried when we lost him. He saved my career and the
>life of my son, gave me back my pride to be an American, and
>freed all of us from the nuclear terror we grew up with.

Nicely said, Bill.

A mere two months after he was wounded by John Hinkley, I had the opportunity to shake President Reagan's hand at my graduation. He shook all of our hands - something that must have been painful for someone who had just had a bullet taken out of his lungs. He did it cheerfully, looked us all straight in the eye, and with a grin only Ronald Reagan could give greeted each of us. I also remember the strong, calloused hand - stronger and larger than mine, and its firm grip. Amazing.

A couple of years ago I heard some political debate on Ronald Reagan. Probably the most poignant comment was something along the lines of "Reagan didn't make us great again, he simply reminded us of how great we already were." He also made others realize that as well, and they gave up the fight soon after his presidency was over with. His indomitable will was infectious with both our allies and others. It reflected in America, and brought the culmination and end of the Cold War.

May he rest in peace.

V/r

Dan; I to was deeply moved by the TV procedings of President Reagan's death. Words can not express how I feel about this great man, and Presedent of this great country.

Dirtydan sheds a tear? I believe It,--I think!? Now lets close this thread before she floods the keyboard with those self rightious tears! Paul

>Dirtydan sheds a tear? I believe It,--I think!? Now lets
>close this thread before she floods the keyboard with those
>self rightious tears! Paul

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Paul,

You wrote an apology on this board on may 31 regarding comments that you are sorry you made on this board. This appears to be one of them.

Of course, I may not understand what you were trying to say.

Clearly a great man, I'm sure that Ronald Reagan's passing was a great blessing, considering that horrible disease.

I'll always remember him as the Great Communicator, and his speech after the Challenger tragedy sticks in my mind as a great expression of leadership.

Godspeed, Mr. President.

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"You can accomplish much if you don't care who gets the credit." -Ronald Reagan

Dan
Thanks for the post.
Terry

What is hard to believe is that some of us in this country sit back and let those who don't hold our views shout us down with their views. Well, here's mine -- shout if you want, but I'm going to continue to hold it.

Ronald Reagan as the President had a profound effect on my childrens lives and me. The economic problems we had suffered under the previous self serving stupidity of carter finally came to an end.

Anyone that owned or ran a business during the times of double digit plus prime interest rates understands what I am talking about even though they may not care to admit it. If they were lucky they had a JOB and somebody else had that worry.

Yes, you that have a different perspective are welcome to it, but I'm going to be heard also. Len can lock me out and I'll still be the guy that can look myself in the mirror when I shave. Dan, I'm with you as usual.

Kreth
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Well, here goes...(not control-line related, but relevant to the thread).

It's very odd, but often the people that best can judge the worth of this country, its policies and the stature of its leaders, are emigre's.

I have over the years encountered or cultivated many friends that are immigrants from old Tito's Yugoslavia, and, ( I forget the sorry commies name..some general whatever )...anyway, pre Lech Walesa...Poland.

They are not confused at all about who provided the vision, the clarity and the path to defeat communism...they do NOT think it would have fallen on it's own...it would have staggered on for decades...killing millions of it's people in spirit and fact.

Reagan brought Soviet Communism to its end and set Eastern Europe free. And, in this hemisphere Nicaragua is still having free elections...as monitored by President Carter and the United Nations.

I have also been amazed at all the major media, and politico's, that now, suddenly, "admire" Reagan...and yet fought him tooth and nail over his policies...makes a good sound bite if you don't have a memory.

It wasn't his personality that will have him live on...it will be his policies, VERY contentious at the time, that he believed and implemented the best he could...and resulted in the end of the Soviets.

That said, I don't think he ever flew control line...but I forgive him. Having popped the nose off my Nobler ARF, (it was TAIL HEAVY of all things with an LA 40!) I am not so sure I fly control-line either.

I am glad the thread came up...

I am watching the funeral now. The military guys are so awesome. They are in perfect order and they should be proud to be serving on this occasion.

This president was one of the truly great ones. He really helped Americans feel good about being American again. He really helped to forward the feel of selfless acts. In his farewell speech he talked about serving in a selfless manor. That was tone set forth by him and it carried through. That was always the feel I got anyway. He was our servant and we should mourn his passing and feel good that he is now in a better place.

We may never get to have a president again no matter what party he is from that would give the country the feeling he was able to give. And have such a IMPACT on the entire world like he did. As stated earlier, He didnt make us great. He just reminded of us how great we already are.

Larry, your ending quote about credit is perfect. I will try to always remember that.

Thanks President Reagan.

To All,

While I was not hesitant in beginning this thread, I did wonder over the reactions which would come forth.

Now I have watched the ceremonies in Washington, D.C., seen Air Force One take off and quickly disappear into the clouds, headed for California.

Incredible experience. I would not have changed a thing.

As to those who get it, who understood what I was saying in initial posting, we share a common respect for the office of President of the United States, in many cases deep admiration for Ronald Reagan, a sense of grief over losing him.

To you same people, this might well be a good time, even if only for a couple days, to adopt Reagan's own reactions to his critics, some of whom were much more virulent than seen on this thread. It drove them crazy, you know, to be so sure of themselves, so full of themselves and have the man go right on doing what he was convinced was the right thing.

Ronald Reagan was comfortable thinking that history would judge him and come up with the right answers, even if this took place many years after his passing. I too am comfortable with that view.

((Excuse me, Dan, but I've got to click on Fox News and watch Alan Colmes beat up Sean Hannity..))

Dan, I'm glad you admired Ronald Reagan enough to cry when he died, and I truly respect that.

I personally can't think of ANY politician that I admire that much. Heroes do seem a bit scarce nowadays, don't they?

But respect is something we all deserve. You have mine.

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"I've got my mind right, Boss.. My mind is right.." -Lucas Jackson in Cool Hand Luke

Larry,

And you have my respect. But you already knew that.

I know, let's argue over who has the most repect for the other! I win! You called me an ignorant slut. Wait! You win, I thought it very funny.

This might be tougher than originally thought.

I was born and raised less than 20 miles from Dixon Ill. where Mr. Reagan grew up. My mother is also 93 and was from about 40 miles from Dixon. I have heard some very complimentary things about the young Mr. Reagan from people of her age that had known him when he was young. I personally think that he was a good president but that pales in the fact that he was a good man.

Ronald Reagan has been laid to rest. Can we do the same to this thread? RIP to both.

Since somebody has already been trimmin, and thats fine with me, I'd say it's being put to bed without supper.

On to the circles.

>Ronald Reagan has been laid to rest. Can we do the same to
>this thread? RIP to both.
>
>Tom

Yes, Tom. As people can see I have been busy deleting half of the thread that got off on a tack that should never have been started. I do not wish this forum to become a political launch pad or a bickering place for party politics.

Dan began this thread as a tribute to an ex president who has died and for whom our nation has paid its respects. Let us leave it as that. We have lost several people from this forum due to the bickering that ensued. It has (hopefully) been deleted and I hope our feelings have been as well. Let us return from politics to the reason for which the board was established.