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beemerbob · Oct 26, 2001 12:09 PM

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Having been out of C/L flying for several years, and I was wondering if there is a source for a modern version of the HOW-To articles/pages that used to be published in the 50's.

Something that covers the modern day techniques that you guys are using now.

Bob

Randy Ryan · Oct 26, 2001 12:19 PM

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Hi Bob,

The best favor you can do for yourself is to join PAMPA. Stunt newa is jam packed with all the stuff you want and then some. You get the best advice from the best. Beautiful magazine too.

Randy
PS 2 wheeled or 4 wheeled Beemers??

Randy Ryan <><
AMA 8500
SAM 36
BO all my own M's

Bob Bassett · Oct 26, 2001 12:30 PM

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Joined PAMPA and am waiting for my subscription (2001-2002) and the 2001 magas to arrive. Borrowed some 2000 issues and was very impressed. Not like Air Trails or Flying Models (to many pictured of people with airplanes) but the articles are great.

Bob

geoffgg · Oct 26, 2001 08:00 PM

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Bob

I joined PAMPA in 99. I recently took delivery of Stunt News 96, 97, 98. I'm gobsmacked at the wealth of information contained therein. I'm on my second read through and recommend you do similar after you absorb all the good info in the 2001 mags.

Cheers, Geoff

Brett Buck · Oct 26, 2001 12:23 PM

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>LAST EDITED ON Oct-26-01
>AT 12:12 PM (CDT)
>
>LAST EDITED ON Oct-26-01
>AT 12:10 PM (CDT)
>
>Having been out of C/L flying
>for several years, and I
>was wondering if there is
>a source for a modern
>version of the HOW-To articles/pages
>that used to be published
>in the 50's.
>
>Something that covers the modern day
>techniques that you guys are
>using now.
>

My upcoming book, "Stunt Flying Made Difficult:How to stop worrying and learn to love tensor analysis", will cover all topics thoroughly.

Seriously, I'm not aware of too many things like this. Additionally, some of the few attempts at this haven't been subject to any "peer review" and may not be the most accurate descriptions available.

The archives of the various message boards helps. Unfortunately, the best assemblage of technical discussion (and some spectacular flame wars) was on the old RCO, and it's gone forever.

Ask a question, and you'll get answers...

Brett

ed n · Oct 26, 2001 04:10 PM

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>My upcoming book, "Stunt Flying Made Difficult:How to stop
>worrying and learn to love tensor analysis", will cover all
>topics thoroughly.

Will that cover the Riemann, Ricci, and metric tensors?

Curt Contrata · Oct 26, 2001 06:17 PM

RE: Board Archives#5 source

Brett wrote:
>The archives of
>the various message boards helps.
>Unfortunately, the best assemblage of
>technical discussion (and some spectacular
>flame wars) was on the
>old RCO, and it's gone
>forever.

I have often thought that someone should be saving these threads and make them available in CD form. I doubt however, if we would be so candid if we knew our words here were going to be saved to disk. Still, it is unfortunate that the old RCO threads are gone. I feel lucky to have been there, it was seldom boring.

Curt

Steve Helmick · Oct 26, 2001 11:56 PM

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Back in the '50's & early '60's, the event was very static, with Fox .35 powered N's being very typical. A book would have made sense then, but now, the equipment is evolving at a rapid pace, and "the book" would become quickly dated. Therefore, don't look for a book, join PAMPA and get 5 or 6 "chapters" a year. "gobsmacked"?????

Steve

Steve http://www.nwskyraiders.com/index.html

Jim T. · Oct 27, 2001 07:32 PM

RE: "How To Articles"#8 source

I've been looking through my stash of magazines from the 50's and 60's. There is nothing comparable for CL today. I suppose you could find the same kind of how-to help for RC somewhere. I think you'll just have to read Stunt News and cruse the forums and talk to people at the flying field and at contests to come up to speed. Actually the stuff that worked in your earlier experience still works today. So do what you think will work and have fun and learn on the job, so to speak.

I know how you feel. I was out of the hobby from around 61 to 72. What is this Monocoat? I found that I had forgotten a lot and that things had changed a good bit.

If you can come to the forums with specific and detailed questions, your chances of getting useful answers and comments are much improved.

Jim Thomerson

Ty M. · Oct 27, 2001 08:03 PM

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Hi Bob. Welcome to the new millenium of Precision Aerobatics. I started stunt in the 50's, went to combat, carrier and free flight. Now, I'm back trying my hand a PA. I thought I understood something about stunt planes based on those I built in the 50 and 60's. Well, those are ok for Old Time Stunt and some are ok for Classic Stunt. But this new fangled stuff is space age with super glues, carbon fiber, epoxies, etc. Yet the pattern is the same and the parameters of flight are the same and you can't win, only try, just like flog, er, golf. I have been to two contests this year and I learned more in those six days than I have learned in the last three years. Get all the back issues of Stunt News you can and get all the catalogs available in the latest issue of Stunt News, sit back and read. Also see if any of your old flying pals are listed in the Stunt News 2001 edition of members. Contact them and bug the heck out of them for info on the latest techniques. I do and I am building faster and lighter with each model. Now if only I could fly at a contest and not look like a fool. Ty

Brett Buck · Oct 28, 2001 12:15 AM

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> I
>thought I understood something about
>stunt planes based on those
>I built in the 50
>and 60's. Well, those
>are ok for Old Time
>Stunt and some are ok
>for Classic Stunt. But
>this new fangled stuff is
>space age with super glues,
>carbon fiber, epoxies, etc.

One important detail is that you can still build them exactly the same way as in the 50's-60's, and they will work exactly the same as they did back then. A lot of people do not like the most recent approaches. That's what OTS and Classic are for - you can build them just like you used to, and compete with people using the same equipment. Of course, the knowledge of the particupants on how to make it work is much better, but it's much more widely distributed than ever before. The rest is up to you.

Brett

Randy Ryan · Oct 28, 2001 06:25 PM

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GOBSMACKED! GOBSMACKED! GOBSMACKED! GOBSMACKED!! Man I love the way it rolllllls off the tongue! A new expletive for me!

Sincerely GOBSMACKED your's,

Randy

Randy Ryan <><
AMA 8500
SAM 36
BO all my own M's

bkruger · Oct 29, 2001 10:23 AM

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>GOBSMACKED! GOBSMACKED! GOBSMACKED! GOBSMACKED!! Man I
>love the way it rolllllls
>off the tongue! A new
>expletive for me!

Pretty mild expletive. Aussie/Brit/Kiwi expression for suprise. Literally translated to "smacked in the mouth." Has a much nice ring, though...

Bob

Kiiski · Oct 29, 2001 10:45 AM

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Although this is not a strictly control line book or for that matter all that modern, Harry Higley's(sp?) "There are no secrets" is a good book as far as "how to" kind of stuff.
Kiiski

RRyan · Oct 29, 2001 12:31 PM

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Hey Bob,

I'm just a mild mannered guy.

Randy