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F4FGuy · Jun 18, 2004 08:38 PM

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Ron B.
F4Fguy

Attn. Larry Cunningham and others re your Post#9384.Here's a project of mine embodying my solutions to several subjects in that post.The attached pics are of my 1/2A(nominal,it'll have a Norvell .061) scale stunt Zero.The wing uses a modified version of Bobby Hunt's lost foam method.The ribs are in a geodetic arrangement and are generated from slices of a foam core.this is much less complicated than calculating them and ,if desired, you can vary the angle between them for particular reasons.For instance the main support for the gear is directly fore and aft.The wing is a monoque using a molded L.E.And built in a foam cradle.The skins are 1/20" 6#,as are the ribs.

The fuselage is molded 1/32" 6#,laid up directly on the basic fuse structure.The fuse started out as a Guillow's kit Zero(I hate to plot formers).I used the bulkheads and main longerons,with suitable lightening,and added .010"x3/32"x1/16" basswood channel stringers for better support of the skin between formers.These are lighter than 1/16" sq. balsa ,and also stiffer.I found that,with a stiff enough substructure,it was easy to lay up the wetted sheet directly,without carving a buck.I simply banded it in place 'til it was dry ,then fitted the pieces to each other,and glued them in place.Note the gun breech area between the cockpit and front former.Even this was easy.

Two types of tips are shown.One is carved and hollowed to about 1/16"-3/32".from my stash of <5# wood.The other is molded from 1/32" 6#with two 1/20" ribs and some other structure.The carved one is about 50%heavier.My scale won't read <1 gram,both molded ones read 2,both carved ones read 4,but on a simple balance beam they appear closer to 2:3.

The flaps,stab,and fin are done as the wing except 1/32" sheet.The elevators and rudder,not yet done,will be built up,tissue covered.

Still to be constructed :the engine torque box and mount;the cowl;the landing gear(the blocks are in the wing);tail surfaces as above;and,obviously finish.Everything so far plus engine,tank conopy,and control horns,weighs 4.7 oz. I'm projecting a finished weight of ~8.0 oz.

Ron B.

Ion Muniz · Jun 19, 2004 12:16 PM

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Fantastic work, Ron!

Don't stop posting them pics.!!

The chord seems to be around 6" and the span some 36".

Did I guess close?

Ion

What lines are you going to use?
Will it be able to do the full pattern?

F4FGuy · Jun 19, 2004 08:10 PM

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>Fantastic work, Ron!
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>Don't stop posting them pics.!!
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>The chord seems to be around 6" and the span some 36".
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>Did I guess close?
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>Ion
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>What lines are you going to use?
>Will it be able to do the full pattern?

Ron B.
F4Fguy

Ion:

Close,Ion,very close.I'll give you the cigar,even though you left off the flaps.Right at 220 sq.in.total.
The plan was to do a Lilliputian copy of my big one.Actually if things continue to meet spec as they have so far this should be a better stunter.I can't believe it myself,but at this point I'm under projected weight.I'm projecting a finished weight of <8 oz.

I expect to use .008 solids ~42'-45'long.This size and length seems to work well on the other .061 planes I've done,although this is the first "True Scale Stunt" 1/2A I've tried.

Not to be a wise guy,but,if it won't do a full pattern,I've wasted a lot of time!

Ron B.

raglafart · Jun 19, 2004 08:30 PM

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Hi Ron
A beautiful bit of scratch building although I don't know what to think about the borrowed former outlines!!
Hope its flight characteristics reflect the building skill, lets have some more pics when it's finished.
Cheers John

Larry Cunningham · Jun 19, 2004 11:14 PM

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Lovely work. I will be interested in seeing the finished model.

The "Lost Foam" approach is indeed very practical and is a favored method of building the wings with diagonal ribs. The other advantage is that the foam "cradle" serves as an accurate building fixture.

I have to say, however, that I don't particularly care to set up and cut foam wings, so it is actually far less "work" for me to feed Stuntrib some numbers and plot perfectly accurate templates on the inkjet. (I can even make diagonal rib templates for a wing with elliptical thickness tapering - which is difficult for a hot wire foam cutter..)

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Using CAD also allows me to easily locate and add spar cutouts and interior shapes, and once I have this drawing, I can use it instantly, and repeatedly, even email it to a friend. (CAD methods do have their advantages.)

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"I'm not dumb, I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." -Calvin and Hobbes

Bill Little · Sep 30, 2004 09:11 AM

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Now why did you have to go and do that! I got way to many projects on the bench. hahahaha!
It looks great.
Check your private messages.
Bill <><

When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.
Japanese Proverb

godzilla · Sep 30, 2004 09:51 AM

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You are a Master builder.

I am not worthy.

The City Smasher

DesignMan · Sep 30, 2004 11:51 AM

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8 ounces and 220 square inches with a .06? WOW! You are going to have to run a low pitch prop to keep the speed reasonable. Probably an APC 6x2 would be a good choice.

I expect that model to be extremely competitive. I am jealous, jealous, jealous!

Bring it to the Palmer Meet next year and blow us all away!

Larry Renger
think S.M.A.L.L.

F4FGuy · Oct 01, 2004 07:39 PM

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>8 ounces and 220 square inches with a .06? WOW! You are
>going to have to run a low pitch prop to keep the speed
>reasonable. Probably an APC 6x2 would be a good choice.
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>I expect that model to be extremely competitive. I am
>jealous, jealous, jealous!
>
>Bring it to the Palmer Meet next year and blow us all
>away!;)

Ron B.
F4Fguy

Larry:

At the rate I build,and the number of projects on the bench,I'll be lucky to have it finished by then!

Ron B.